Us Protesters Rally To Occupy Wall Street Options

[GroundPounder]

i think a case could be made that all of the debt is odious. the phenomenon of inflating stock prices for example to sucker in the rubes, better known as 'pump and dump', may in fact be playing out on a much grander scale across many different sectors.

i'm all for the biblical concept of 'jubilee'. wipe away all debt and start from scratch, but hey, i'm an anachronism.

[Quest]

You don't think that charging hundreds of thousands of dollars for higher education is more than a bit dysfunctional?

I would say they are both wrong.

[Quest]

I think you've hit the nail on the head if it is true that it's started as a cointel op.

There's a lot of seething anger built up over at least ten years that's been bubbling under the surface.
A major release is needed. And I believe,as Rob has said, that "they" are so fucking arrogant that they may have underestimated it.

Revolt goes hand in hand with strange bedfellows. If they're at least under one banner, fighting the same enemy, the details can sort themselves out later.

Watch out for the "agents provocateurs" in the coming weeks.

This is what I fear. Say, we get a lot of Obama followers "protesting" who were directed there by the Occupy Wall Street website and then a small group of fake 911 truthers (actually provaceteurs) among them. Can anyone say, "false flag"? I don't know why else the Obama-supporting, "Occupy Wall Street" website would be pushing for the protest and then it's being televised. I could be wrong and I hope I am.

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 4 2011, 09:40 PM

[Quest]

Screw you Quest. I have no respect for anyone using neo-fascist WND as an information resource while simultaneously accusing others of being NWO dupes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbdown.gif)

I am well aware of WND. The Soros\bakner protest connection had already been reported elsewhere and by many but the WND story just happened to be at hand when I posted it. No one accussed anyone else of being NWO dupes. That being said, it is clear by the Adam Kokesh interviews that many if not MOST of the early protestors are selfish and clueless and could care about 911 truth, justice and altruism. I did however see many "I have student loan" posters. Great. My bet is that once many of this kids crying about their being 100K or more in debt, once they land their job would turn their backs on society in a New York minute as evidenced by their suporting of wars and almost total ignoarnce. But hey, at least it's a protest, right?

Obama Supporters "Occupy" DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVR9Nv43J4...player_embedded

Lastly, I hope the protest does, as I mentioned earlier, "take on a life of it's own" as was evideced by the many military people in NYC. I hope that more knowledgeable types show and educate the masses and the thing grows. My two concerns were how clueless, callous, and irresposible some of the protestors were, and a falseflag event. Aside from that, let's hope there is at least enough common ground that this thing grows.

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 4 2011, 10:06 PM

[Quest]

You guys may be right after all, that the protest is leget and may grow wings. I'm heartned after eeing the following report but the protestors must be weary of those that would seek to lead them. And of course, the media is working overtime to try and spin this as is Joseph Farrah at WND. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif)

Don’t Let Soros Hijack Occupy Wall Street: Webster Tarpley Reports
http://www.prisonplanet.com/dont-let-soros...ey-reports.html

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...;v=t901d4AiaFA#!

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxGe5ai8zgA...player_embedded

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 8 2011, 07:07 PM

[evanlong]

I would say they are both wrong.

What are both wrong?

[evanlong]

Don’t Let Soros Hijack Occupy Wall Street: Webster Tarpley Reports

I value Tarpley's analysis, but he doesn't always name his sources, so it's often hard to know what's legit in what he's saying and what he's just speculating about.

[evanlong]

I would just add also that there's a lot of anxiety, even among relatively disgruntled upper middle class types, that things could get really "unpredictable" if these protests catch on, which they seem to be doing. The U. S. might finally be catching up with the 21st century here, and the reshaping process may wind up completely bypassing the corrupt "established channels" of politics that were so carefully set up to protect upper class interests. Who knows what it'll look like when we're through?

This post has been edited by evanlong: Oct 5 2011, 08:19 PM

[André]

Labor unions join ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protest for huge march
Wednesday, October 5, 2011

NEW YORK — Thousands of anti-corporate demonstrators and union members poured through New York’s financial district Wednesday to protest inequality in the US economy.

The ranks of the more than two weeks-long sit-in protest in New York swelled hugely ahead of the start of the march as US labor unions lent their powerful voice to the movement, watched by large numbers of police.

Crowds banging drums and carrying signs like “Save our Republic” and “Equality, democracy, revolution,” crammed into the narrow, teeming streets near Wall Street, symbolic headquarters of the US corporate world.

Chanting “this is what democracy looks like” and “we are 99 percent,” the loosely woven coalition of protesters was now backed by major unions including the AFL-CIO, United Auto Workers and Transit Workers Union.

The sheer numbers meant that protestors, who have marched daily into Wall Street and other nearby symbols of corporate power, were likely to flood the busy, narrow streets.

“More numbers, more power, more publicity,” said Kelly Wells, 26, who said she came all the way from Oregon to join the peaceful street rebellion.

Protestors have a huge list of grievances, ranging from the mountain of US student debt to shrinking retirement benefits for the elderly, as the United States struggles to regain its once powerful economic stride.

“The way our society is now headed it does not work for 99 percent of people,” said Michael Mulgrew, president of the United Federation of Teachers, who expressed support and pride for the mostly-young demonstrators.

“They’ve been able to create a national conversation that we think should have been going on for years,” said Mulgrew, whose union is one of several which have signed on to the demonstrations, now in their third week.

The protestors’ main anger is directed at corporate influence in politics and the government bailout in 2008 and it comes against a backdrop of dismay at the lack of leadership from either President Barack Obama’s Democrats or the opposition Republicans a year from a presidential election.

“I think everyone out here feels robbed. They are struggling to make a living, to keep a roof over their heads, they’re struggling to pay student loans,” Lindsey Personette, a 29-year-old dancer, said.

“This is a revolution. This is not going to go away. It’s only going to get bigger.”

As the protests — ignored initially by much of the media — grabbed growing attention, New York’s liberal congresswoman, Louise Slaughter, gave the demonstrations her blessing.

“I’m so proud to see the Occupy Wall Street movement standing up to this rampant corporate greed and peacefully participating in our democracy,” she said in a statement.

Also joining the protest movement were students, who, according to the Occupywallst.org website were staging a national walkout.

The march was backed by members of the United Federation of Teachers, which represents most of New York’s public school teachers, as well as the Workers United and Transport Workers, which represents many of the city’s bus drivers.

The Professional Staff Congress-CUNY (PSC-CUNY), which represents more than 20,000 professors and staff at the City University of New York, also gave its support.

The movement has had widening support, with franchises popping up in towns and major cities across the United States, leading some political observers to liken it to a left-wing version of the populist conservative Tea Party movement.

Small anti-Wall Street demos have cropped up in Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles and elsewhere.

The new protest comes four days after more than 700 protesters were arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge when they defied police and stalled traffic.

Police said most of those arrested were issued criminal court summons and citations for disorderly conduct before being released later in the day.

http://www.rawstory.com/

(ABC News put the numbers of marchers at around 15,000)

[André]

The irony...

Occupy Wall Street Arrests; Fox 5 Crew and Protesters Hit by Mace, Batons

Protest broadens scope

Wednesday, 05 Oct 2011, 11:28 PM EDT

MYFOXNY.COM - While covering the Occupy Wall Street protests on Wednesday night, Fox 5 photographer Roy Isen was hit in the eyes by mace from a police officer and Fox 5 reporter Dick Brennan was hit by an officer's baton.

The protests on Wall Street continued to grow all day. The rallies and their participants are showing no signs of slowing down.

In the evening, crowds surged past barriers and NYPD officers moved in to contain the protesters. By many accounts, mayhem broke out.

Officers, many wearing white shorts indicating supervisor rank, swatted protesters with batons and sprayed them with mace, video from the scene showed.

Fox 5's Isen and Brennan were there and witnessed the chaos. At one point, Brennan was hit in the abdomen by a police baton and Isen got irritant in his eyes. Both journalists were all right and continued to cover the protests and arrests.

Cops appeared to arrest dozens if not hundreds of protesters, but the final tally was not known.

During the day, unions and students joined the demonstrators. What was once a protest of powerful Wall Street financial firms and banks is growing into a larger movement about the working class, employment, poverty, education, and more.

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/

[André]

Police Club, Pepper Spray #occupywallstreet Protestors @ Wall Street 10.05.11



...and we thought that Americans would always stay passive and take it, something has changed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

[onesliceshort]

...and we thought that Americans would always stay passive and take it, something has changed

The cops are trying to provoke a violent reaction. I hope the protesters have stewards. It's gonna kick off soon.

I'd like to see those "zealous" uniformed bootlickers try that if and when there are a million protesters.



NYPD cop: "My little nightstick's going to get a workout tonight"

[evanlong]

The Foley Square demo is huge. Nightsticks won't keep Wall Street on top for long. Eventually, demands will begin to surface.

This post has been edited by evanlong: Oct 6 2011, 10:18 AM

[onesliceshort]

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[amazed!]

Apparently 1 of their demands is the Financial Transaction Tax, as many European countries do.

I'm all for it, because it would be fair, and tend to slow down the speculative trades.

[André]

The cops are trying to provoke a violent reaction. I hope the protesters have stewards. It's gonna kick off soon.

I understand and agree that the demonstrators should always keep things peaceful but the fact that they are there in large numbers and standing their ground, that there is solidarity and common purpose (the details are unimportant) this in America is amazing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif)

[André]

[Lasthorseman]

Why is this being allowed now?
Why did it not happen shortly after the Engineered Financial Crash of 2008, the bailouts.
How come they have NOT rolled out the VMADs/sonic cannons and other such tools in this "post 911 world"
Both sides left and right vying for a spot, a moment, a place in the News cycles.
Is Wall Street even relevant now in reference to the Asian Brazilian, Chinese financial centers.
Why are they not occupying the CFR/ Trilats/IMF the real global player organizations?

Are we having a Strategic Communications Laboratories moment here?

Yes, I have been and thus will always be your Knight of the Fifth Veil.
http://proliberty.com/observer/20011212.htm

[Quest]

Why is this being allowed now?
Why did it not happen shortly after the Engineered Financial Crash of 2008, the bailouts.
How come they have NOT rolled out the VMADs/sonic cannons and other such tools in this "post 911 world"
Both sides left and right vying for a spot, a moment, a place in the News cycles.
Is Wall Street even relevant now in reference to the Asian Brazilian, Chinese financial centers.
Why are they not occupying the CFR/ Trilats/IMF the real global player organizations?

Are we having a Strategic Communications Laboratories moment here?

Yes, I have been and thus will always be your Knight of the Fifth Veil.
http://proliberty.com/observer/20011212.htm

How about, "911 was an inside job!".

[André]

Why is this being allowed now?

Given the police repression and initial news blackout, I don't see how this is being allowed?

Why did it not happen shortly after the Engineered Financial Crash of 2008, the bailouts.

It did happen, there were large demonstrations in front of wall street in 2008, this time that area is off limits surrounded by steel fences. 2008 sept 25 http://youtu.be/XreAnHG8xu4

How come they have NOT rolled out the VMADs/sonic cannons and other such tools in this "post 911 world"

I don't know, maybe these toys are just not practical for a number of reasons and given the mood of the country. it might not be a good idea to use them, imagine using that on a large crowd, I don't think it would go down well...

Both sides left and right vying for a spot, a moment, a place in the News cycles.

That is the usual situation, trying to control the narrative for their own side whatever the circumstances.

Is Wall Street even relevant now in reference to the Asian Brazilian, Chinese financial centers.
Why are they not occupying the CFR/ Trilats/IMF the real global player organizations?

Because wall street is always in the news and seem to be the more obvious target, not everybody listen to Alex Jones and infowar... I don't anymore.

Are we having a Strategic Communications Laboratories moment here?

No, this is just a bunch of greedy bastards who have overplayed their hand, and people are not going to take it anymore.