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Us Protesters Rally To Occupy Wall Street

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post Oct 6 2011, 10:39 PM
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No, this is just a bunch of greedy bastards who have overplayed their hand, and people are not going to take it anymore.


Simple as..

I hear Alex Jones is going to accompany the "Oathkeepers" in an "Occupy the Fed" demonstration.
I can see the "keep it simple" message taking a turn for the worse..


http://ocoathkeepers.wordpress.com/tag/occupy-wall-street/

Hope I'm wrong and I'm not a fan of AJ nor the message an Oathkeeper member has penned at the above link (politicizing a basic demand and giving leeway to the "good" corporations - they need to be stripped to the bone and punished IMO) but I'll wait and see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I know this is a week old but the cop who maced penned in women in the following clip in a cowardly attack has been identified. NYPD Deputy Inspector Tony Bologna.





http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/09/26-1

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Name and shame.
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Another police officer cum jackboot thug has been identified from another clip. Lieutenant Brian Connolly :




http://publicintelligence.net/crazy-baton-...brian-connolly/

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Name and shame.
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post Oct 8 2011, 11:33 AM
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The New York mayor, Michael Bloomberg, has accused the Occupy Wall Street protesters of trying to destroy jobs in the city.

In his weekly radio show, Bloomberg said the protests against the city's financial services were "not productive" given the importance of the sector to the local economy.

"What they're trying to do is take the jobs away from people working in this city," he said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/0...s?newsfeed=true


Ah. They are trying to take JOBS away from people.
Thanks goodness that the dumb part of mankind gets to know about these things...

Once upon a time, people paid taxes-- not because paying taxes is entertaining, but because the money was used to finance the kind of infrastructure and services which the individual was not able to provide.

And then it all got privatised: The waste-disposal system. The transport-system. The healthcare-system...

And people kept on paying taxes like mad. And they paid through the nose for all the services which were now provided by private operators for the purpose of generating profits: That of course means higher charges than before, since the profit-margin has to be added in...

One day, people started to wonder: "What exactly are our taxes used for...?"

And they found that there was an administration-system of homeric proportions, with nothing left to administer.
They also found that their taxes were used to finance idiotic (though highly profitable) wars.

But above all, they discovered that the political power they had entrusted their so-called "elected representatives" with had been unceremoniously handed away...
To the private operators running the services they had once paid taxes for.

And the politicians sat in parliament, looking pretty...

At least as far as politicians are a pretty sight to start with.

A few years ago, there was a short item on 'Radio Deutsche Welle': Back then, they were running Germanys international shortwave-radio service.
It referred to a German company which had anounced a few years before that they would have to re-locate to China--
because in Germany, "...the wages are so high". They had stated that they "...couldn't compete".

At the time of that radio-broadcast, they had just anounced that they would have to re-locate to Pakistan...
Because in China, "...the wages were so high" and they "...couldn't compete".

These days, it's not a product which has to compete anymore.

It's the poor stupid dumb idiots who happen to have the bad misfortune to depend on "a job" who are forced to compete:
They compete against other poor stupid dumb idiots who have the bad misfortune to depend on "a job".

They will have no choice but to work for less. After all, that's in the public interest, isn't it...?

Even if it does have a bitter aftertaste of 'slavery' about it.


Meanwhile, all of this amounts to a change of the existing political system (regardless of what that system may currently be) through the backdoor.

There used to be a few expressions describing that sort of thing in the past:
"Coupe d'etat" was one. "High treason" was another...

But of course that was long before the advent of the "New World Order", wasn't it.

Jobs, Mr. Bloomberg...?

Jobs-- my arse...

(Edit: Corrected typos)

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post Oct 8 2011, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Devilsadvocate @ Oct 8 2011, 04:33 PM) *
Once upon a time, people paid taxes-- not because paing taxes is entertaining, but because the money was used to finance the kind of infrastructure and services which the individual was not able to provide.

And then it all got privatised: The waste-disposal system. The transport-system. The healthcare-system...

And people kept on paying taxes like mad. And they paid through the nose for all the services which were now provided by private operators for the purpose of generating profits: That of course means higher charges than before, since the profit-margin has to be added in...

One day, people started to wonder: "What exactly are our taxes used for...?"

And they found that there was an administration-system of homeric proportions, with nothing left to administer.
They also found that their taxes were used to finance idiotic (though highly profitable) wars.

But above all, they discovered that the political power they had entrusted their so-called "elected representatives" with had been unceremoniously handed away...
To the private operators running the services they had once paid taxes for.


You are quite right, it's a system that transforms everything into a for profit commodity, destroying the very nature human activity, of life itself.

Art and culture no longer exist to uplift and inform but is there to generate a profit and so appeals to the lowest common denominator.

Medicine is not there to cure but to keep us hooked and coming back for more, you have private health insurance company's that have a 30% plus overhead (0.9% for Canada's public insurance) that have people working overtime trying to find reasons to cut off health care to their customers...

Everything is a for profit scam, food is getting less nutritious as it is getting more addictive, if they have to add melamine in the milk, or sell tap water as luxury bottled water to increase their profit margin, you know they will, Bechtel even claimed they owned the rain that fall from the sky and made it illegal to collect rainwater, until the slaves revolted...

...and that's all we are, slaves to the corporation and banks, until we revolt.

Of course the myths are kept alive, "you too can be a millionaire" as the 1% get richer and everybody else falls behind, as if greed, theft and fraud is natural law and nobody should object because that would be class warfare and an attack on our freedoms, at least that's the narrative the corporate news is trying to push.
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QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Oct 7 2011, 03:39 AM) *
Simple as..

I hear Alex Jones is going to accompany the "Oathkeepers" in an "Occupy the Fed" demonstration.
I can see the "keep it simple" message taking a turn for the worse..


http://ocoathkeepers.wordpress.com/tag/occupy-wall-street/

Hope I'm wrong and I'm not a fan of AJ nor the message an Oathkeeper member has penned at the above link (politicizing a basic demand and giving leeway to the "good" corporations - they need to be stripped to the bone and punished IMO) but I'll wait and see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)





Missing the bigger picture?

That was a calculated move reducing the argument to being about people with a grudge against others "with a dollar more than you".

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QUOTE (evanlong @ Oct 6 2011, 01:00 AM) *
What are both wrong?


In a nutshell;

1. Students that want to pass off their students loan responsibility on to you and me yet they, the students, could care less about the wars, social justice, altruism or 911 truth. This is wrong.

2. Education should not cost a fortune. This is also wrong.



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QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Oct 8 2011, 11:21 PM) *
That was a calculated move reducing the argument to being about people with a grudge against others "with a dollar more than you".

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Divide and conquer, works every time, but maybe this time it won't work...

...this is one of the reasons I stopped listening to Alex, limited truth is the bait, but the aim is to push a right wing ideological stance with vague notions of freedoms and liberty, the neocons do it at very election cycle. RP has said he is against raising tax on corporations as a matter of "principle" but he has no objection to cutting social security to people who have paid for it all their lives, it's always the same ideological bent with a sprinkle of 911 truth or libertarian posturing but in the end it serves the ruling class.
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post Oct 8 2011, 08:56 PM
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Commies, terrorists, muslims, teachers, scientists who buck the norm and lose funding, grass-smoking hippies complaining about the fact that their only legacy is theft and war.

What do these things have in common?

The media skew, and the willing sheep to slaughter. Gotta love democracy, huh?

I can only hope, that this "grass roots movement, wasn't, yet again, set in motion by the ones who have, will and want to control us.

cheers, good comment.

I need some help... although I am a long time member of this site I have NEVER used the blogs. So, this comment was to a specific user, but I am unsure whether that is apparent.

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post Oct 8 2011, 09:04 PM
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I have struggled with Alex = good - bad. So I decided to think outside the box.

Good- Alex turned me towards the fact that there was something wrong with the world's hierarchy

Bad- Alex leaves out some very critical facts that would change certain "facts".

JM very well researched, O
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post Oct 8 2011, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (Devilsadvocate @ Oct 8 2011, 09:33 AM) *
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/0...s?newsfeed=true


Ah. They are trying to take JOBS away from people.
Thanks goodness that the dumb part of mankind gets to know about these things...

Once upon a time, people paid taxes-- not because paying taxes is entertaining, but because the money was used to finance the kind of infrastructure and services which the individual was not able to provide.

And then it all got privatised: The waste-disposal system. The transport-system. The healthcare-system...

And people kept on paying taxes like mad. And they paid through the nose for all the services which were now provided by private operators for the purpose of generating profits: That of course means higher charges than before, since the profit-margin has to be added in...

One day, people started to wonder: "What exactly are our taxes used for...?"

And they found that there was an administration-system of homeric proportions, with nothing left to administer.
They also found that their taxes were used to finance idiotic (though highly profitable) wars.

But above all, they discovered that the political power they had entrusted their so-called "elected representatives" with had been unceremoniously handed away...
To the private operators running the services they had once paid taxes for.

And the politicians sat in parliament, looking pretty...

At least as far as politicians are a pretty sight to start with.

A few years ago, there was a short item on 'Radio Deutsche Welle': Back then, they were running Germanys international shortwave-radio service.
It referred to a German company which had anounced a few years before that they would have to re-locate to China--
because in Germany, "...the wages are so high". They had stated that they "...couldn't compete".

At the time of that radio-broadcast, they had just anounced that they would have to re-locate to Pakistan...
Because in China, "...the wages were so high" and they "...couldn't compete".

These days, it's not a product which has to compete anymore.

It's the poor stupid dumb idiots who happen to have the bad misfortune to depend on "a job" who are forced to compete:
They compete against other poor stupid dumb idiots who have the bad misfortune to depend on "a job".

They will have no choice but to work for less. After all, that's in the public interest, isn't it...?

Even if it does have a bitter aftertaste of 'slavery' about it.


Meanwhile, all of this amounts to a change of the existing political system (regardless of what that system may currently be) through the backdoor.

There used to be a few expressions describing that sort of thing in the past:
"Coupe d'etat" was one. "High treason" was another...

But of course that was long before the advent of the "New World Order", wasn't it.

Jobs, Mr. Bloomberg...?

Jobs-- my arse...

(Edit: Corrected typos)


Yowsa, you missed the point, that at the time Mr. Bloomberg was starting a new company. It is Walmacdonaldsraythemonsansagricom.com
and the new minimum wage is .8 per day.

As a corporation it will provide "Government sponsored food, both fast and slow, pedator drones, and modified crops for the third world. AND it will keep us all sve from the terrible threat of boredom.

If these dang protesters occupying Wall Street, wanted more, they should have gotten more favorable media coverage. Why can't they just conform and allow easy assimilation into the Rockerfellow Way. Thats my new band name by the way.
CALLED IT!!!!
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post Oct 8 2011, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Oct 8 2011, 04:21 PM) *
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Missing the bigger picture?

That was a calculated move reducing the argument to being about people with a grudge against others "with a dollar more than you".

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


The "crony" inside the monopoly men. Thats an interesting quote....Hmmmm...Ryan Seacrest? Tony Blair? John Henry? Oh wait, no. John Henry, was a steel driving man. This is all about those damn hippies with NO JOBS again.... Damn pot smokers...its making it hard for us capitalists to make a buck on Cialis, Lipitor & Viagra. Cause John may have been the first ...BUT We can ALL be Steel Driving Men, with low cholesterol...as long as the side effects don't kill us.

Sorry, I will return to my cubicle now.
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post Oct 10 2011, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE (André @ Oct 8 2011, 04:30 PM) *
Divide and conquer, works every time, but maybe this time it won't work...

...this is one of the reasons I stopped listening to Alex, limited truth is the bait, but the aim is to push a right wing ideological stance with vague notions of freedoms and liberty, the neocons do it at very election cycle. RP has said he is against raising tax on corporations as a matter of "principle" but he has no objection to cutting social security to people who have paid for it all their lives, it's always the same ideological bent with a sprinkle of 911 truth or libertarian posturing but in the end it serves the ruling class.


That needed to be writ large for ALL to see.

Thank you, André! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif)
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post Oct 10 2011, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (iblushes @ Oct 8 2011, 05:56 PM) *
I need some help... although I am a long time member of this site I have NEVER used the blogs. So, this comment was to a specific user, but I am unsure whether that is apparent.


Not sure what you mean by "NEVER used the blogs" in this instance.

Under each post in a thread is a button that looks sorta like: [ " Reply ], which quotes the post above it, ala ^ ^ ^

Then again you can always just write "@ _________" (fill in the blank) and leave it at that -- or am I not understanding your question?
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QUOTE (iblushes @ Oct 8 2011, 06:26 PM) *
Rockerfellow Way. Thats my new band name by the way.
CALLED IT!!!!


Sweet.




PRO-PHETIC
PRO-TEST
SKINNY-PUPPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkHWPBtNH3o

Hit me on the street while waiting to do nothing.
Where within the space can anything feel certain.
Look into the future make out the word speak
Send in the spies to watch them.
Creepy are the people unable to do something.
Sitting on an armchair fenced in their creation.
Look up to be there, anywhere is somewhere.
Itchy past scratch the itch.

(Chorus)
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streets.
Hit me..
Hit me..
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streets.
Hit me..
Hit me..

Feel about a nation, so precious is the freedom.
Carousel the brass ring, reach into a black mass.
So its corroded, it's always polluted.
We all want some of it.
Maybe all the people, now left without no loving.
Where within the strength gone better see it coming.
Get off the fence trip, rip up the garbage.
Make it up to the earth bitch...

(Chorus)
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streets.
Hit me..
Hit me..
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streets.
Hit me..
Hit me..
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streets.
Hit me..
Hit me..
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streeeeeets.
Hit me..
Hit me..
Hit me..(34 times)

Be a politician.
Eroding all your freedoms.
Down the rabbit hole.
Cracks money markets fall through a looking glass.
Time becomes too fast, all to benefit the rich.
So keep eating from the apple, edges from the center.
Shaken to the core until it doesn't matter.
No one to turn to, no where to run to.
Better the bomb to blow it.

HIT ME in the streets..
Hit me..
Hit me..
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streets.
Hit me..
Hit me..
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streets.
Hit me..
Hit me..
Hit me in the streets.
Hit..me..in..the..streets.


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thanks for the link lights!



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QUOTE (painter @ Oct 8 2011, 02:26 AM) *
That needed to be writ large for ALL to see.

Thank you, André! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif)

At last.

Thank you in turn Painter, AJ is working to an agenda and it isn't good for the people of the US or the world.

As he works out of Austin Texas, I wonder how he has faired of late as things got rather warm - ironic.
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Why the Elites Are in Trouble
Posted on Oct 9, 2011
By Chris Hedges

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Even now, three weeks later, elites, and their mouthpieces in the press, continue to puzzle over what people like Ketchup want. Where is the list of demands? Why don’t they present us with specific goals? Why can’t they articulate an agenda?

The goal to people like Ketchup is very, very clear. It can be articulated in one word—REBELLION. These protesters have not come to work within the system. They are not pleading with Congress for electoral reform. They know electoral politics is a farce and have found another way to be heard and exercise power. They have no faith, nor should they, in the political system or the two major political parties. They know the press will not amplify their voices, and so they created a press of their own. They know the economy serves the oligarchs, so they formed their own communal system. This movement is an effort to take our country back.

This is a goal the power elite cannot comprehend. They cannot envision a day when they will not be in charge of our lives. The elites believe, and seek to make us believe, that globalization and unfettered capitalism are natural law, some kind of permanent and eternal dynamic that can never be altered. What the elites fail to realize is that rebellion will not stop until the corporate state is extinguished. It will not stop until there is an end to the corporate abuse of the poor, the working class, the elderly, the sick, children, those being slaughtered in our imperial wars and tortured in our black sites. It will not stop until foreclosures and bank repossessions stop. It will not stop until students no longer have to go into debt to be educated, and families no longer have to plunge into bankruptcy to pay medical bills. It will not stop until the corporate destruction of the ecosystem stops, and our relationships with each other and the planet are radically reconfigured. And that is why the elites, and the rotted and degenerate system of corporate power they sustain, are in trouble. That is why they keep asking what the demands are. They don’t understand what is happening. They are deaf, dumb and blind.

http://www.truthdig.com
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QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Oct 10 2011, 05:44 PM) *
At last.

Thank you in turn Painter, AJ is working to an agenda and it isn't good for the people of the US or the world.

As he works out of Austin Texas, I wonder how he has faired of late as things got rather warm - ironic.


He's in a sticky predicament is our AJ.
He's been "exposing the NWO" for years and now he's trying to say that one section of the whole NWO set-up is better than another and coral the debate down one road and accumulate more "fans".

André's last post summed up what it should be about. Clear all of the sewage out from the media whores and spineless justice system, to the corporate crooks and their yes-men. Cut the cancer out.


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one demand i would like the 99% to voice more openly is getting the psychopaths out of every branch of gov't. give them all a psych eval; you fail - you gone. once gov't is cleaned up, wall street wouldn't have much to say about prosecutions. have that fellow black, who sent a thousand banksters to jail during the s&l scandal, get back on the job. fill up alcatraz, i hear it's nice this time of year.

and once the psychopaths are gone, we'll get to the bottom of 9/11. seems reasonable. of course when reason fails, let's go with the emotional approach -guillotine. they should have a choice...


and as far as hedges goes, he's an affirmed socialist. he wants us to trade in the black jackboot on our necks for a red one. no thanks. red black red black..i want off that roller coaster ride.
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