Secret Planes?? Options

[liverpoolfclad]

Hi again all,

As I posted in my welcome thread I am not a Pilot, but, know a few people where I live who believe all this conspiracy theory.
I have got even more obsessed with wanting to know the truth since I found this brilliant forum.

Anyway, while in the pub last night I was speaking to a friend who came up with a notion, and I thought I would mention this here, and see if it is a plausible route of investigation.

I know 4 planes were supposed to have been used, and rumours of a fifth being hijacked at the time were widespread, I remember I was in work when this happened, and after the 4 planes had crashed, everyone was just waiting for news of the 5th.

With this in mind, is it possible the planes were actually puropsely made? A theory we came up with was based on a simple theory.
Firstly, does anyone know on the forum, if any of the Airlines involved, actually added to their fleets before the events actually happened?
Maybe up to a couple of years before, is there a way of finding out?
We had a thought that what if, say AA bought another 10 aircraft, but actually 12 were made for instance.

I remember first reports on TV saying 5 aircraft were unaccounted for, after the U93 incident, that theory changed instantly here.

I personally think the Aircraft were made for purpose, but to be made secretly, would cause a lot of problems and make a lot of questions. However joining the extras in with an official order would find less questioning? If I remember right, here in the UK the story of the 5th plane vanished quite quickly, and this also adds that it could be also covered by the fact it never 'existed' anyway (not on official paperwork)



Please forgive me if this has been looked into, I am just trying to help in anyway I can to get justice for the innocents who lost their lives.

[23investigator]

Hi again all,

As I posted in my welcome thread I am not a Pilot, but, know a few people where I live who believe all this conspiracy theory.
I have got even more obsessed with wanting to know the truth since I found this brilliant forum.

Anyway, while in the pub last night I was speaking to a friend who came up with a notion, and I thought I would mention this here, and see if it is a plausible route of investigation.

I know 4 planes were supposed to have been used, and rumours of a fifth being hijacked at the time were widespread, I remember I was in work when this happened, and after the 4 planes had crashed, everyone was just waiting for news of the 5th.

With this in mind, is it possible the planes were actually puropsely made? A theory we came up with was based on a simple theory.
Firstly, does anyone know on the forum, if any of the Airlines involved, actually added to their fleets before the events actually happened?
Maybe up to a couple of years before, is there a way of finding out?
We had a thought that what if, say AA bought another 10 aircraft, but actually 12 were made for instance.

I remember first reports on TV saying 5 aircraft were unaccounted for, after the U93 incident, that theory changed instantly here.

I personally think the Aircraft were made for purpose, but to be made secretly, would cause a lot of problems and make a lot of questions. However joining the extras in with an official order would find less questioning? If I remember right, here in the UK the story of the 5th plane vanished quite quickly, and this also adds that it could be also covered by the fact it never 'existed' anyway (not on official paperwork)



Please forgive me if this has been looked into, I am just trying to help in anyway I can to get justice for the innocents who lost their lives.

Dear liverpoolfclad

Would it be a good guess to say 'fc' stands for football club.
Many a good thought has come out of the pub 'lad', so no need to apologise for that.
It's good you talk about other things than 'footaball', perhaps you could teach your lot over here to think laterally like you and your mates.

Good on you

Robert

[liverpoolfclad]

Hi 23, yeah lol FC for LFC, fanatically heh heh.

The reason we thought of the scenario, is because, through the forum it has been mentioned at times the planes may have been duplicated, but that would noticably make any fleet short so to speak, however if the planes were extras, and thought to be made legitamately for an order, very few questions would be asked throughout.

Is it possible to access any orders an Airline would have made?

This post has been edited by liverpoolfclad: Sep 24 2011, 07:27 AM

[liverpoolfclad]

Dear liverpoolfclad


perhaps you could teach your lot over here to think laterally like you and your mates.



Robert

Got a best mate in Adelaide, hes one track minded so know exactly what you mean lol

[23investigator]

Hi 23, yeah lol FC for LFC, fanatically heh heh.

The reason we thought of the scenario, is because, through the forum it has been mentioned at times the planes may have been duplicated, but that would noticably make any fleet short so to speak, however if the planes were extras, and thought to be made legitamately for an order, very few questions would be asked throughout.

Is it possible to access any orders an Airline would have made?

Dear FC

If I may call you that.
Can't answer that question, especially as I live in ozz and am an ozz.
But there is lots of stuff on the internet by Boeing about their sales and projected sales.

It seems more likely though, that if any thing of that type was to have happened, there are 'bloody big paddocks', full of discarded aircraft, in various spots in America, nearly as big as the UK, where if they wanted to do that, they would not have had to have spent nearly as much money.

There is certainly confusion about the claimed aircraft though, it seeming the only "castatrophe" to the aircraft listed as being involved, being flight UA93, which still has a big question mark hanging over it.

It is interesting how the event was projected onto the rest of the world, you seeming to have a pretty good handle on how it unfolded in the UK.

It would be good if you could document that sometime.

Its in the area of the MSM that the 'achilles heel', "lies", the industry filled with wimps, which if we can get the gas under them, they will come pooping out of the pot everywhere.

Robert

[liverpoolfclad]

Dear FC

If I may call you that.
Can't answer that question, especially as I live in ozz and am an ozz.
But there is lots of stuff on the internet by Boeing about their sales and projected sales.

It seems more likely though, that if any thing of that type was to have happened, there are 'bloody big paddocks', full of discarded aircraft, in various spots in America, nearly as big as the UK, where if they wanted to do that, they would not have had to have spent nearly as much money.

There is certainly confusion about the claimed aircraft though, it seeming the only "castatrophe" to the aircraft listed as being involved, being flight UA93, which still has a big question mark hanging over it.

It is interesting how the event was projected onto the rest of the world, you seeming to have a pretty good handle on how it unfolded in the UK.

It would be good if you could document that sometime.

Its in the area of the MSM that the 'achilles heel', "lies", the industry filled with wimps, which if we can get the gas under them, they will come pooping out of the pot everywhere.

Robert

No problem calling me FC, call me anything, guarantee I have been called much worse.
Hope it's ok calling you 23?

I will try make another thread soon and explain from over in the UK. But most of what I have learnt and thought about has been since the events happened, and just taking in the news etc.
Interesting enough, a few years ago I moved to a small city in Scotland called Brechin. While living here, we met a woman whos sister is in the FBI based in Chicago.
She is Scottish born but been over in the US for about 35 years.
Through our friend, we found out that apparently, there has been alot of change in the FBI, as at one time it was quite split over the events, some agents believed it to be staged, some did not. From what I have been told, there a a fair few in the FBI pushing for a full investigation. What is more interesting to me is that I was also led to believe in not so many words, some members have actually gone 'missing'. What that means I have no idea.

All the above is just what I have found out 2nd hand, some may be wrong/exaggerated I dont know, but I have no reason to not believe her.

[23investigator]

No problem calling me FC, call me anything, guarantee I have been called much worse.
Hope it's ok calling you 23?

I will try make another thread soon and explain from over in the UK. But most of what I have learnt and thought about has been since the events happened, and just taking in the news etc.
Interesting enough, a few years ago I moved to a small city in Scotland called Brechin. While living here, we met a woman whos sister is in the FBI based in Chicago.
She is Scottish born but been over in the US for about 35 years.
Through our friend, we found out that apparently, there has been alot of change in the FBI, as at one time it was quite split over the events, some agents believed it to be staged, some did not. From what I have been told, there a a fair few in the FBI pushing for a full investigation. What is more interesting to me is that I was also led to believe in not so many words, some members have actually gone 'missing'. What that means I have no idea.

All the above is just what I have found out 2nd hand, some may be wrong/exaggerated I dont know, but I have no reason to not believe her.

Dear FC

Back in my 'pool playing days', I learnt not to put 'RS', on the blackboard.
Now I play at home, and get thrashed regularly, lol.
I have nothing against the FBI, or for that matter any Government agency, we need them in a properly run society, but 'rogue operators' in any of these functions need to be 'rooted out'.

There are probably lots more wanting to their job properly, we as the people they are there to serve, need to appreciate this, and make it patently clear they have our full support.

These things manifest and propagate by 'positive thoughts', much more than by any other way.

Robert

[woody]

I remember first reports on TV saying 5 aircraft were unaccounted for, after the U93 incident, that theory changed instantly here.

You remember correctly. Initially it was reported that this "fifth plane" crashed at Camp David. Later the fifth plane vanished from the news, and it was said that UA 93 was heading for Camp David.

If you're interested in the background, read this here:

http://www.911omissionreport.com/flight_x.html

http://911woodybox.blogspot.com/2007/04/mi...sh-at-camp.html

[23investigator]

Dear FC

Back in my 'pool playing days', I learnt not to put 'RS', on the blackboard.
Now I play at home, and get thrashed regularly, lol.
I have nothing against the FBI, or for that matter any Government agency, we need them in a properly run society, but 'rogue operators' in any of these functions need to be 'rooted out'.

There are probably lots more wanting to do their job properly, we as the people they are there to serve, need to appreciate this, and make it patently clear they have our full support.

These things manifest and propagate by 'positive thoughts', much more than by any other way.

Robert