Acars Confirmed - 9/11 Aircraft Airborne Long After Crash, PilotsFor911Truth.org Rating Options

[rob balsamo]

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ACARS CONFIRMED - 9/11 AIRCRAFT AIRBORNE LONG AFTER CRASH
UNITED 175 IN THE VICINITY OF HARRISBURG AND PITTSBURGH, PA

(PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) is a device used to send messages to and from an aircraft. Very similar to text messages and email we use today, Air Traffic Control, the airline itself, and other airplanes can communicate with each other via this "texting" system. ACARS was developed in 1978 and is still used today. Similar to cell phone networks, the ACARS network has remote ground stations installed around the world to route messages from ATC, the airline, etc, to the aircraft depending on it's location and vice versa. ACARS Messages have been provided through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) which demonstrate that the aircraft received messages through ground stations located in Harrisburg, PA, and then later routed through a ground station in Pittsburgh, 20 minutes after the aircraft allegedly impacted the South Tower in New York. How can messages be routed through such remote locations if the aircraft was in NY, not to mention how can messages be routed to an aircraft which allegedly crashed 20 minutes earlier? Pilots For 9/11 Truth have briefly touched on this subject in 9/11: Intercepted through the excellent research of "Woody Box", who initially discovered such alarming information in the released FOIA documents(1). We now have further information which confirms the aircraft was not in the vicinity of New York City when the attacks occurred. read more...

[kawika]

Could someone please provide the name of the file(s) where these ACARS records come from?

I would like to 1) check my database for other similar records for the other flights and 2) to see if there are possibly more for UA175.

[rob balsamo]

Could someone please provide the name of the file(s) where these ACARS records come from?

I would like to 1) check my database for other similar records for the other flights and 2) to see if there are possibly more for UA175.

It is the first footnote on the bottom of the article itself.

[kawika]

It is the first footnote on the bottom of the article itself.

This record is the 9/11 Commission's version of FAA records. To be absolutely sure it's complete we need to see the original FAA records that were (or weren't) provided to the 9/11 Commission.

Any direction you can provide as to keywords, file type or other identifying data will help me search the FAA database.

Thank you

[rob balsamo]

This record is the 9/11 Commission's version of FAA records. To be absolutely sure it's complete we need to see the original FAA records that were (or weren't) provided to the 9/11 Commission.

Any direction you can provide as to keywords, file type or other identifying data will help me search the FAA database.

Thank you

I don't think the FAA would have any records of ACARS aside from ACARS sent by ATC.

ARINC and the airline have the records, which were provided to the Commission, which were then sent via FOIA, which are linked in our footnote 1.

There are messages missing as described in the article. Dennis also talks about the messages and why we wouldnt have a comprehensive list of all of them.

With that said, we have all the information we need. The aircraft cannot be in NYC and have ACARS messages routed through MDT and PIT based on flight tracking protocol.

[kawika]

I don't think the FAA would have any records of ACARS aside from ACARS sent by ATC.

ARINC and the airline have the records, which were provided to the Commission, which were then sent via FOIA, which are linked in our footnote 1.

There are messages missing as described in the article. Dennis also talks about the messages and why we wouldnt have a comprehensive list of all of them.

With that said, we have all the information we need. The aircraft cannot be in NYC and have ACARS messages routed through MDT and PIT based on flight tracking protocol.

I searched my FOIA database using keyword ACARS. Only a few records. One PDF about Flight 93. The other files are labeled "trash", only one is for 9/11/01.

Here is the UA93 ACARS PDF screenshot:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3482/ua93acarsimage.jpg

I am very surprised there are not more, but the agency has held back about 2GB worth, expected release soon.

What it tells me is the 9/11 Commission records are from a different database as formatting is not the same.

If you can think of other keywords to use in searches, please advise.