Duhbunkers try to explain ACARS and fail |

Dec 1 2011, 05:29 AM
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Citizen Investigator Group: Contributor Posts: 1,168 Joined: 16-August 06 Member No.: 10 |
And of course, we see the obsessoids over at the govt loyalist cesspool scurrying, looking for and expecting an immediate explanation from the nameless faceless "experts". This individual can't even think or research for themself, they have to seek comfort in answers from the groupthink tank.
QUOTE "I'm sure it's here somewhere, but can someone steer me to the debunk of this rubbish-"
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Dec 3 2011, 06:19 PM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 37 Joined: 3-March 08 Member No.: 2,828 |
Thanks again for bringing this information to light.
I made a post about it at ATS: http://www.atsadgrab.com/forum/thread781617/pg1 It was generally well received, however, debunkers are claiming that the last line does NOT denote when the message was received and acknowledged from the aircraft. One guy said it was when the message was printed, and that data could get backed up before hitting the telex. There are a lot of subsequent posts over there describing ACARS, but it appears there are also a lot of varying formats of text display associated with it. I think this is causing a lot of confusion- no doubt exactly what the "Q" unit is tasked to do. The big question everyone has is what exactly does that last line mean. There is the trouble, and someone needs to refute or confirm this. We need additional confirmation Rob, that this last line is indeed what you claim it is. |
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Dec 3 2011, 07:02 PM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 37 Joined: 3-March 08 Member No.: 2,828 |
Thanks again for bringing this information to light. I made a post about it at ATS: http://www.atsadgrab.com/forum/thread781617/pg1 It was generally well received, however, debunkers are claiming that the last line does NOT denote when the message was received and acknowledged from the aircraft. One guy said it was when the message was printed, and that data could get backed up before hitting the telex. There are a lot of subsequent posts over there describing ACARS, but it appears there are also a lot of varying formats of text display associated with it. I think this is causing a lot of confusion- no doubt exactly what the "Q" unit is tasked to do. The big question everyone has is what exactly does that last line mean. There is the trouble, and someone needs to refute or confirm this. We need additional confirmation Rob, that this last line is indeed what you claim it is. The correct URL to the ATS thread is http://www.atsadgrab.com/forum/thread781617/pg1 WTF, I didn't post that URL, did you edit it Rob? |
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Dec 3 2011, 07:07 PM
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The correct URL to the ATS thread is http://www.atsadgrab.com/forum/thread781617/pg1 WTF, I didn't post that URL, did you edit it Rob? lol... the forum automatically edits the url as I prefer to not subject our readers to sites which are loaded with malware and spyware, linked from us. If you want to post the url without being filtered, just wrap code tags around it and readers can copy/paste the url to their browser... like this... CODE http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread781617/pg1 By the way, you may want to inform them that there are many ACARS messages in the FOIA pdf which do not have the second time stamp. Does this mean it wasn't sent to the printer? If so, how did it get printed? http://pilotsfor911truth.org/acars/Team7_Box13_UAL_ACARS.pdf The second time stamp is the time the message was received by the airplane, as described by Ed Ballinger. Feel free to tell "gman" to come on over if he wants to learn how the system works, especially Category A and B Flight Tracking. |
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Aldo Marquis CIT Duhbunkers try to explain ACARS and fail Dec 1 2011, 05:29 AM
Aldo Marquis CIT Of course one of the idiots chime in, without read... Dec 1 2011, 02:50 PM
amazed! This brings up a good question, and I'm wonder... Dec 1 2011, 03:26 PM
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woody One guy over at the unexplained mysteries forum ke... Dec 2 2011, 12:57 PM
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rob balsamo QUOTE he even said that -you- should call ARINC.
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rob balsamo QUOTE (scott75 @ Dec 6 2011, 07:58 AM) I ... Dec 6 2011, 09:30 AM
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onesliceshort Just to add my 2cents on the alleged "printer... Dec 3 2011, 11:13 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Dec 3 2011, 10:13 ... Dec 4 2011, 01:27 AM
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Sergio QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Dec 4 2011, 12:34 ... Dec 3 2011, 11:56 PM
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mvb Hey Rob! Would it be possible to overlay posit... Dec 4 2011, 04:30 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (mvb @ Dec 4 2011, 03:30 AM) Hey Ro... Dec 4 2011, 04:34 AM
onesliceshort Wow, thanks very much Sergio!
@Rob
What also... Dec 4 2011, 08:48 AM
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gman just posted t... Dec 4 2011, 10:11 PM
mvb A few questions came up!
1. Is the ACARS a Te... Dec 5 2011, 12:11 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (mvb @ Dec 4 2011, 11:11 PM) A few ... Dec 5 2011, 12:34 AM
9/11 Justice Now Does anybody know what these numbers mean 12031625... Dec 6 2011, 11:23 AM
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9/11 Justice Now QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 7 2011, 03:28 AM... Dec 7 2011, 10:14 AM
mvb "Debunkers" referd me to the Wikipedia a... Dec 7 2011, 02:05 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (mvb @ Dec 7 2011, 01:05 PM) ... Dec 7 2011, 02:29 PM
scott75 Balsamo, I'm fairly sure that Valkyrie told me... Dec 7 2011, 08:54 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (scott75 @ Dec 7 2011, 07:54 PM) Ba... Dec 7 2011, 09:02 PM
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9/11 Justice Now Rob over at the govt loyalist site reheat is tryin... Dec 8 2011, 02:48 PM
Sergio QUOTE (9/11 Justice Now @ Dec 8 2011, 03... Dec 8 2011, 03:10 PM
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onesliceshort Let's not forget the "other Flight 93" identified ... Dec 8 2011, 04:30 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Dec 8 2011, 03:30 ... Dec 8 2011, 04:51 PM
rob balsamo I had some time tonight to take another stroll thr... Dec 10 2011, 01:40 AM
scott75 Hey everyone. People over at Unexplained Mysteries... Dec 10 2011, 05:37 AM

Sergio QUOTE (scott75 @ Dec 10 2011, 06:37 AM) H... Dec 10 2011, 06:55 AM

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onesliceshort QUOTE So their claim is basically the following: B... Dec 10 2011, 07:25 AM
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scott75 QUOTE (Sergio @ Dec 10 2011, 06:38 AM) I ... Dec 10 2011, 08:16 AM
scott75 QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Dec 10 2011, 06:25... Dec 10 2011, 08:15 AM
onesliceshort Scott, all of those "responses" are addr... Dec 10 2011, 08:10 AM
scott75 QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Dec 10 2011, 07:10... Dec 10 2011, 08:28 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE He's just saying that it's "pos... Dec 10 2011, 08:18 AM
rob balsamo I tried a little experiment just for fun...
I ju... Dec 11 2011, 05:34 PM
9/11 Justice Now QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 12 2011, 07:34 A... Dec 11 2011, 07:34 PM
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onesliceshort Scott, boony says...
QUOTE You think the first ti... Dec 12 2011, 09:53 PM
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rob balsamo For those debating on ATS with regard to "Pro... Dec 12 2011, 11:36 PM
wstutt Hi,
There is a file (1369kB PDF) that has been re... Dec 14 2011, 01:12 AM
wstutt I've just updated the image to also highlight ... Dec 14 2011, 02:41 AM
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rob balsamo QUOTE (Sergio @ Dec 14 2011, 08:04 AM) Ex... Dec 14 2011, 09:30 AM
woody Dear Warren,
thanks a lot for providing us with t... Dec 14 2011, 03:53 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (woody @ Dec 14 2011, 02:53 PM) Dea... Dec 14 2011, 04:01 PM
rob balsamo Geeze Warren,
Did you even look at any of the oth... Dec 14 2011, 04:45 AM
rob balsamo Warren,
I have split out your reply to keep in a ... Dec 14 2011, 05:34 AM
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rob balsamo QUOTE Some seem to think that the Ballinger's ... Dec 14 2011, 07:07 AM
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