Duhbunkers try to explain ACARS and fail Options

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

And of course, we see the obsessoids over at the govt loyalist cesspool scurrying, looking for and expecting an immediate explanation from the nameless faceless "experts". This individual can't even think or research for themself, they have to seek comfort in answers from the groupthink tank.

"I'm sure it's here somewhere, but can someone steer me to the debunk of this rubbish-"

This post has been edited by Aldo Marquis CIT: Dec 1 2011, 05:49 AM

[onesliceshort]

On another note about the "printer timestamp/back up of messages" claim, read through the ACARS messages here

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/acars/Team7_Box13_UAL_ACARS.pdf

See if you can find any of these "delays". Most have duplicate dual timestamps (within the same minute, sent and received), some are 1 minute difference (possibly due to the minute on the clock being closer to the next, 09:21 and 50 seconds for example), and the largest delay between send and receive was 2 minutes. Just one out of how many?

Many of those messages were sent well after the attacks on the towers. I'd imagine it was pretty busy, no?

Last + nail + coffin on the printer timestamp/back up of messages.

Edit to add: In the PDF linked to above, the "notes" taken at the very start say that at 09:21, "United says, you may want to send out cockpit warnings."

The UA175 ACARS message in question

DDLXCXA CHIAK CH158R
.CHIAKUA DA 111323/ED
CMD
AN N612UA/GL PIT
- QUCHIYRUA 1UA175 BOSLAX
- MESSAGE FROM CHIDD -
/BEWARE ANY COCKPIT INTROUSION: TWO AIRCAFT IN NY . HIT TRADE C
NTER BUILDS...
CHIDD ED BALLINGER

;09111323 108575 0574

No delay.

This post has been edited by onesliceshort: Dec 3 2011, 11:44 PM

[Sergio]

See if you can find any of these "delays". Most have duplicate dual timestamps (within the same minute, sent and received), some are 1 minute difference (possibly due to the minute on the clock being closer to the next, 09:21 and 50 seconds for example), and the largest delay between send and receive was 2 minutes. Just one out of how many?

Most of ACARS are delivered within 60 seconds. Delays are usually due to high traffic. This is what David Knerr declared to the FBI:

KNERR further advised that AERONAUTICAL' RADIO INCORPORATED ARINC serves as the network administrator for the communication data. According to KNERR, this is important to remember when reviewing data messages because uplink and downlink times may show a time delay when compared. This is caused by the/processing of multiple ACARS messages through the ARINC network at the same time.

FBI302, p. 36

Even only one example of 2 minutes interval between Sent and Received timestamp is enough to disprove the claim of the guy on ATS. And there are several examples of 1 minute delay.
Unless one argues the dispatcher was changing the toner...