Duhbunkers try to explain ACARS and fail Options

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

And of course, we see the obsessoids over at the govt loyalist cesspool scurrying, looking for and expecting an immediate explanation from the nameless faceless "experts". This individual can't even think or research for themself, they have to seek comfort in answers from the groupthink tank.

"I'm sure it's here somewhere, but can someone steer me to the debunk of this rubbish-"

This post has been edited by Aldo Marquis CIT: Dec 1 2011, 05:49 AM

[rob balsamo]

I tried a little experiment just for fun...

I just asked my 10 year old nephew to read this statement and tell me what he thinks it means....

"Mr. Ballinger stated that the ACARS messages have two times listed: the time sent and the time received. He stated that once he sends the message it is delivered to the addressed aircraft through AIRINC immediately. He is not aware of any delay in the aircraft receiving the message after he sends it. "

He replied that it means a message is sent to... and received by the airplane. I asked him, "How do you know it was received"? He replied, "Cause it says it right there"... and pointed to the words "time received".

I asked, "Does that statement mean a message was received by a printer in some office?" , he laughed, "What? No... it says airplane".

I corrected him, "Well, technically it says, aircraft.. .but ok".

I asked, "Does that statement 'time received' mean it is the time received by ARINC?", he replied, "No, the message goes THROUGH ARINC, but is received by the airplane..."

I thanked him, he went back to playing Red Dead Redemption.

The above statement made by Ballinger references "the aircraft" as the noun with an action word of "received". Ballinger does not reference a "printer" as the noun affected by the verb, he doesn't reference ARINC as the noun affected by the verb "received", he references "the aircraft".

He does reference ARINC as the message going "through", not "received". The word "aircraft" is the noun referred to by the verb "receive" throughout the entire above statement.

If anyone is still confused by basic English comprehension, please ask a friendly ten year old to interpret the statement for you.

And again, when the FOIA documents refer to a printer, they are referring to this type of printer. (just a quick search I did)

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This is perhaps why gman1972 is confused by the word "printer", thinking it is the printer in his office, but in reality it is the printer on the flight deck.

Dispatcher's couldn't care less when a document is printed in their office. They want to know when it was printed on the airplane. As referenced multiple times in the FBI interviews linked above.

Hope this helps.

[scott75]

I tried a little experiment just for fun...

Thanks a lot Rob. I quoted your post in a message to illustrate that it's quite easy to come to the interpretation that the time stamps refer to when the aircraft was sent and received the ACARS messages.

[rob balsamo]

Thanks a lot Rob. I quoted your post in a message to illustrate that it's quite easy to come to the interpretation that the time stamps refer to when the aircraft was sent and received the ACARS messages.

lol.... yeah.. .those who interpret that ARINC is the "receiver" based on the statement made by Ballinger, must also think that the air above the football field is the "receiver" when an NFL Quarterback throws a football...


hilarious...