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Us Soldier Kills Afghan Civilians In Kandahar

Sinewy
post Mar 13 2012, 01:27 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17330205

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He left his military base in the early hours of the morning and opened fire in at least two homes; women and children were among the dead.

Nato said it was investigating the "deeply regrettable incident".

Anti-US sentiment is already high in Afghanistan after US soldiers burnt copies of the Koran last month.

US officials have apologised repeatedly for the incident at a Nato base in Kabul, but they failed to quell a series of protests and attacks that killed at least 30 people and six US troops.

Local people have reportedly gathered near the base in Panjwai district to protest about Sunday's killings, and the US embassy is advising against travel to the area.

Lt Gen Adrian Bradshaw, deputy commander of Nato-led forces, said he was unable to "explain the motivation behind such callous acts", adding that "our thoughts and prayers are with those caught in this tragedy".
'Propaganda victory'

The soldier has not been named, but is thought to be a staff sergeant.

He is reported to have walked off his base at around 03:00 local time (22:30 GMT Saturday) and headed to nearby villages, moving methodically from house to house.

"Eleven members of my family are dead. They are all dead," Haji Samad, an elder from Najeeban village, told the AFP news agency.

Haji Sayed Jan, from Alkozai village, was quoted by the AFP as saying: "My home was attacked and I lost four family members".

A delegation from the provincial governor's office has arrived in the village to determine exactly what happened, a spokesman said.

The soldier - who had reportedly suffered a breakdown before the attacks - is said to have handed himself over to the US military authorities after carrying out the killings.

The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) said in a statement that US officials in Afghanistan would work with their Afghan counterparts to investigate what happened.

This is the first time Afghan civilians have been targeted by foreign soldiers in this way, the BBC's Quentin Sommerville reports from Kabul.

However, a US soldier was convicted last year on three counts of premeditated murder after leading a rogue "kill team" in Afghanistan.

Before Sunday's killings, relations between international forces and the Afghan people were already at an all-time low following the accidental burning of the Koran by US soldiers last month, our correspondent adds.

A senior Afghan intelligence official called the latest attack a "propaganda victory for the Taliban".

Kandahar is the Taliban's spiritual heartland and is considered strategically important because of its international airport, its agricultural and industrial output and its position as one of the country's main trading hubs.

The province has seen heavy fighting between Nato and Taliban forces over the last five years.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in a speech on Sunday that his government still expects to sign a strategic partnership with the United States in the next couple of months.

In a televised speech, he said discussions would continue on the precise role the US will play in Afghanistan after Nato hands over security responsibility to Kabul at the end of 2014.

On Friday, Kabul and Washington reached a deal to transfer US-run prisons in the country to Afghan control.



It happened on 3/11, and if it is based on numerology, it was a carefully planned psy op.

How can 1 staff sergeant kill 16 people and then burn them, and then turn himself in? Another cover up once again. The countless carpet bombing, daisy cutter shellings, drone attacks, countless civilians maimed and killed, texts and sanctuaries desecrated, and on top of this, this happens at an opportune time.

How was this once again (to similar attacks in both Afghanistan/Iraq) not characterized as a "terrorist attack", but carefully termed a cause of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome/Disease?! What fucking bullshit! Why the fuck is there sympathy shown for him and his wife and children?! This is seen as a justification for his attacks by many "patriotic" Americans and the zionist MSM.

How is 1 American life worth more than 1 Afghan life?!

This was a coordinated plan to once again instigate the Taliban in fighting NATO and continue the corporate war to progress and preserve the occupation there, let alone it was a insidious way to take revenge upon the Afghan people for killing some U.S. officials in the aftermath to the Qur`an burnings.

Watch the fucking coward terrorist come back to the states and be discharged and diagnosed with a PTSD. Moreover, he might be sent to a mental facility. No charges or execution will take place. You can see how MSM already hinted at PTSD in the article to whitewash this case before a trial commences.

Only for those that have a firm faith in an afterlife and a Just God will equal retribution take place I believe. I can imagine that the families and relatives of the 16 slain individuals will agree with me.

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post Mar 13 2012, 01:42 PM
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An interesting point about the numerology. Had not thought too much about the difficulty of just one guy doing it, but that is a good point.

If it was staged, it seems that rather than keeping us there longer, it will actually accelerate the pullout because of the reaction back here in the states. That appears to be the initial reaction in the press.

All the weeping and gnashing of teeth back here, but my bet is that before the ink dries on the newspaper, 16 other innocent people will be murdered by US drones.
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post Mar 13 2012, 07:37 PM
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A single soldier walking out of a camp in the middle of the night...
no guards at the gate?
typical to leave for a walk?

March 11th (2009) was the date of the last German school shooting, might be coincidential but worth mentioning.

Suggest to dig into the murderers past - wont be surprised about contradicting details.

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post Mar 18 2012, 07:30 PM
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Take the 10 minutes and read this.

http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2012/03.../#comment-42252
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post Mar 18 2012, 08:11 PM
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slice it any way you like, 'just doing my job', don't cut it since nuremburg.

every man is responsible for his actions.
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QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 16 2012, 11:11 PM) *
slice it any way you like, 'just doing my job', don't cut it since nuremburg.

every man is responsible for his actions.



Thank you so much, GP! salute.gif

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post Mar 19 2012, 04:16 AM
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Here's my take

1. This news went big - knowing that the complicit media will kill any story it is told to kill, there must be a reason why this has made big news worldwide.

2. Of course the lone madman angle will be played and any eye-witness evidence to the contrary dismissed.

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A US official familiar with the case said allegations that 16 to 20 people were involved in the killings were "completely false".


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/1...suspect-charges

3. Surely this act must come under the umbrella of "war crimes" that are trumpetted whenever the "bad" guys are caught.
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post Mar 19 2012, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (KP50 @ Mar 19 2012, 09:16 AM) *
Here's my take

1. This news went big - knowing that the complicit media will kill any story it is told to kill, there must be a reason why this has made big news worldwide.

2. Of course the lone madman angle will be played and any eye-witness evidence to the contrary dismissed.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/1...suspect-charges

3. Surely this act must come under the umbrella of "war crimes" that are trumpetted whenever the "bad" guys are caught.


Agree on all three points. Who burned the bodies though? And why?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/...E82A02V20120311

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“Neighbors and relatives of the dead said they had seen a group of U.S. soldiers arrive at their village in Kandahar’s Panjwayi district at about 2 a.m., enter homes and open fire.
An Afghan man who said his children were killed in the shooting spree accused soldiers of later burning the bodies.” Reuters


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“Afghan President Karzai condemned the rampage as “intentional murders” and demanded an explanation from the United States. His office said the dead included nine children and three women.
Afghan officials also gave varying accounts of the number of shooters involved. Karzai’s office released a statement quoting a villager as saying “American soldiers woke my family up and shot them in the face.“” Reuters


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“The farmer, who had been away from the village when the attack happened, said he believed that chemicals had been poured over the bodies and set alight.
Photographs show at least one child’s body partially charred, while a pile of ashes lay on the floor of a room in one of the houses with what appeared to be bloodstains close by.
Images of the bodies also suggest that at least some were killed by a single shot to the head.
One photograph shows the body of a small girl in a red and green dress, with a bullet hole in the middle of her temple.” BBC




Those bodies were virtually cremated and the surrounding area barely scathed. Burning evidence.

How the hell is this the work of a "lone madman"?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/...E82A02V20120311

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“They (Americans) poured chemicals over their dead bodies and burned them,” Samad told Reuters at the scene.
Neighbors said they had awoken to crackling gunfire from American soldiers, who they described as laughing and drunk.
“They were all drunk and shooting all over the place,” said neighbor Agha Lala, who visited one of the homes where killings took place.” Reuters


Sunday timeline (from the BBC)

00:00 Aircraft heard by eyewitness over villages
01:00-01:30 Helicopters heard, followed by gunfire
02:00 Witness says she hears shooting in one of the villages
03:00 Time at which soldier is said by Afghan officials to have left US base

Info taken from this blog:

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/03/12...being-reported/




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QUOTE (Sinewy @ Mar 13 2012, 05:27 AM) *
No charges or execution will take place.


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He [defense attorney Scott Wendelsdorf] ended his remarks by thundering, "America does not kill its broken warriors! Spare this boy. For God's sake, spare him." At least one juror heeded that exhortation.

~ Read more: When a Soldier Commits Murder: Life in Prison for Steven Green - TIME http://content.time.com/time/nation/articl...l#ixzz2uy6G6eCm


Made with tears from real Afghan orphans.

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QUOTE (Sinewy @ Mar 11 2012, 04:27 AM) *
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17330205




It happened on 3/11, and if it is based on numerology, it was a carefully planned psy op.

How can 1 staff sergeant kill 16 people and then burn them, and then turn himself in? Another cover up once again. The countless carpet bombing, daisy cutter shellings, drone attacks, countless civilians maimed and killed, texts and sanctuaries desecrated, and on top of this, this happens at an opportune time.

How was this once again (to similar attacks in both Afghanistan/Iraq) not characterized as a "terrorist attack", but carefully termed a cause of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome/Disease?! What fucking bullshit! Why the fuck is there sympathy shown for him and his wife and children?! This is seen as a justification for his attacks by many "patriotic" Americans and the zionist MSM.

How is 1 American life worth more than 1 Afghan life?!

This was a coordinated plan to once again instigate the Taliban in fighting NATO and continue the corporate war to progress and preserve the occupation there, let alone it was a insidious way to take revenge upon the Afghan people for killing some U.S. officials in the aftermath to the Qur`an burnings.

Watch the fucking coward terrorist come back to the states and be discharged and diagnosed with a PTSD. Moreover, he might be sent to a mental facility. No charges or execution will take place. You can see how MSM already hinted at PTSD in the article to whitewash this case before a trial commences.

Only for those that have a firm faith in an afterlife and a Just God will equal retribution take place I believe. I can imagine that the families and relatives of the 16 slain individuals will agree with me.


I started a new thread over at 'debate politics':

http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-t...them-truth.html

Think people here should take a look.

And if nothing else, at least a look to
the comments and replies from the
hopelessly lost 'JJREFFERS'!

Cheers
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post Apr 5 2014, 01:38 PM
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Why did no one tell me???

'Steven Dale Green suicide: former US soldier convicted of murdering an Iraqi family found [hanged] dead in his prison cell'

~ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/am...ll-9139642.html (Feb 19th, 2014)

Woo hoo! Another one for the good guys.

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QUOTE (poppyburner @ Apr 5 2014, 01:38 PM) *
Why did no one tell me???

'Steven Dale Green suicide: former US soldier convicted of murdering an Iraqi family found [hanged] dead in his prison cell'

~ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/am...ll-9139642.html (Feb 19th, 2014)

Woo hoo! Another one for the good guys.


Wow! It seems this is an example of why the death penalty can have a positive effect, in that putting him out of his misery years ago would have been a good thing for all concerned.
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