Debunkers Respond To Dennis Cimino, A Few Comments Copy & Pasted |

Mar 16 2012, 06:50 PM
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Edit by Rob Balsamo - I would like to make it clear that Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not endorse the No Plane Theory nor the article mentioned in the OP.
I personally have not read the article in detail, nor do i intend to. People are free to make their own choices. Please keep in mind the disclaimer in white text at the top of the forum when reviewing this thread and the article referenced. Thank you. Dennis Cimino posted an article on Veterans Today earlier this week discussing the Pentagon attack and the unresolved issues within the FDR data. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/13/91...k-is-a-fantasy/ Debunkers are already talking about it. I'd appreciate any responses to the comments below, to help me deal with a particularly loathsome GL on YouTube. (If not, I'm sure I can manage on my own...it'll just take a little bit longer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif) ...) If he knows what hes talking about, why does he insist the FDR recorder shows the plane flying just over the West Wing of the White House on its way to the Penty, when even the twoofies pilots admit it shows no such thing? Why does Dennis the ignorant fux insist the plane was heading 180, made a 330 degree right hand turn, then impact at heading 070. I mean HONESTLY, you fuxing moron, before pretending someone is an expert. Before pretending somone knows what he is talkin gabout, dont you think its a good ideaq to find out if the idiot can do SIMPLE FUXING 3RD GRADE ARITHMETIC FIRST?!?!?!?!??!?!?! I mean Jesus tittfuxing christ! Even the little drooler picture Dennis drew of the AA77 flight path doesnt even show a 270 degreee turn. Instantly noticeable to anyone not a complete idiot (like Goebbels is) Yet Dennis the Moron keeps insisting a less than 270 degreee turn was an exact 330 degree turn? LMGDAOOOO Dennis the Moron debunks herself frequently. At one moment (supposedly disproving a claim that data can sit in a buffer for several seconds before being recorded) that the FAR requires the data to be accurately recorded at least once a second. Then dismisses the Radar Altimiter data that disproves the "380 above the light poles" lie due to a magic carpet that was following the plane around, remaining underneath the Radalt ant. making it read falsely low--AND then claiming the Radal data is (contrary to previous claims) ofte ntimes "in lag" by several seconds. Dennis the Moron cant even keep his story straight. No wonder anyone with the smallest SHRED of aviation and avionics knowledge long ago dismissed his bullshit. This post has been edited by rob balsamo: Mar 19 2012, 03:20 PM |
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Mar 18 2012, 01:34 PM
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From your link Jim.
QUOTE Pilots for 9/11 Truth Corroboration Indeed, the evidence that United Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville and that United Flight 175 did not hit the South Tower has been considerably strengthened by new discoveries from Pilots for 9/11 Truth. By means of meticulous research on electronic communications between those aircraft and air traffic controllers, they have been able to establish that United Flight 93 was in the air in the vicinity of Fort Wayne, IN, and Champaign, IL, at the time of the alleged Shanksville crash. Since no aircraft can be in two places at one time, it is difficult to imagine more conclusive proof that the Shanksville crash of Flight 93 was another fabricated event QUOTE Even more surprisingly, however, Pilots has also determined that United Flight 175 was in the air in the vicinity of Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, PA, at the time it was purportedly crashing into the South Tower in New York City QUOTE How can a Boeing 767 possibly travel at an impossible speed (as Pilots for 9/11 Truth has confirmed), enter a steel and concrete building in violation of Newton’s laws, pass through its own length into the building in the same number of frames that it passes through its own length in air, and not have its fuel explode as it makes contact with that massive edifice? Even the frames from the Pentagon show a huge fireball upon impact. If that was true of the 757 there, why is it not also true of the 767 here? It looks as though, in this respect, the fabrication of Flight 77 fakery was just a bit better than the fabrication of Flight 175 fakery. QUOTE “9/11 Fake: Media Make Believe” The serious question that has to arise at this point, of course, is “Why?” Would it not have been far simpler just to fly a real plane into the North Tower and another into the South? Where the answer turns out to be, “No”. Pilots for 9/11 Truth discovered that it is extremely difficult to hit an edifice 208′ across at more than 500 mph. After 20 or more tried it repeatedly, only one was able to hit it once. In addition, a real plane could not enter all the way into the building before it would explode. But that was a requirement of the mission, since otherwise there would have been no pseudo-explanation for the subsequent “collapse” of the buildings due to fire. And equally important, the explosions that were planned for the subbasements to drain the towers’ sprinkler systems of water so they could not extinguish the relatively modest fires that would remain after the pre-positioned jet fuel was consumed in those spectacular fireballs. The plan was to explain them away as residual effects of jet fuel falling through the elevator shafts–a flawed theory, but good enough for a gullible public Subtle as a breezeblock. Interweaving Pilotsfor911Truth fact and evidence into NPT. And you think that this "Hollywood op" would be "easier" than flying an aircraft into the towers? Nice disconnect from the possibility that the aircraft was modified to penetrate and explode. Speculation, I know, but NPT has way too many loose ends. |
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mrmitosis Debunkers Respond To Dennis Cimino Mar 16 2012, 06:50 PM
rob balsamo feel free to email Dennis... i havent seen the art... Mar 16 2012, 06:52 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 16 2012, 05:52 P... Mar 17 2012, 01:19 AM
onesliceshort What's the YT link MrM? Mar 16 2012, 07:05 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 16 2012, 06:05... Mar 16 2012, 08:52 PM
jfetzer Well, there are three studies in this series as fo... Mar 17 2012, 08:34 PM
mrmitosis Thanks, Jim
For the record, this is how I ende... Mar 17 2012, 09:20 PM
onesliceshort QUOTE According to the official account, AA Flight... Mar 17 2012, 10:53 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 17 2012, 09:53... Mar 17 2012, 11:50 PM

jfetzer I do not believe that NPT is cited or discussed in... Mar 21 2012, 10:43 AM
jfetzer Both articles discuss the impossibility of a Boein... Mar 20 2012, 01:15 AM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 20 2012, 01:15 AM) .... Mar 20 2012, 01:20 AM
jfetzer The wrong link was (what we used to call) "a ... Mar 21 2012, 10:18 AM
amazed! Jim Fetzer
I wonder if it's possible you migh... Mar 18 2012, 11:08 AM
mrmitosis QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 18 2012, 10:08 A... Mar 19 2012, 01:15 AM
jfetzer Well, if no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, that supp... Mar 21 2012, 10:57 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 10:57 AM) W... Mar 21 2012, 11:00 AM
jfetzer Well, maybe Pilots still thinks its possible, but ... Mar 21 2012, 11:24 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 11:24 AM) W... Mar 21 2012, 11:26 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (jimfetzer)And, of course, as Pilots has sho... Mar 18 2012, 11:26 PM
amazed! Mitosis
Thanks for the link to the interview with... Mar 19 2012, 02:41 PM
Dennis Cimino QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 19 2012, 07:41 PM) M... Mar 20 2012, 02:25 AM
Dennis Cimino QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 19 2012, 07:41 PM) M... Mar 20 2012, 02:28 AM
jfetzer While it was good of Rob to post this on behalf of... Mar 21 2012, 01:19 AM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 01:19 AM) W... Mar 21 2012, 04:19 AM


jfetzer While I have replied to this elsewhere, Dennis sai... Mar 21 2012, 10:30 AM

jfetzer Rob has send me a copy of what he received from De... Mar 21 2012, 10:07 AM
amazed! QUOTE (Dennis Cimino @ Mar 20 2012, 02:28... Mar 21 2012, 03:39 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 21 2012, 02:39 P... Mar 23 2012, 05:14 AM
rob balsamo I would like to make it clear that Pilots For 9/11... Mar 19 2012, 03:10 PM
jfetzer Given the degree of respect I have for Rob and for... Mar 20 2012, 01:31 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 20 2012, 01:31 AM) U... Mar 20 2012, 01:35 AM
jfetzer This is bad, Rob. I cite your own work establishi... Mar 20 2012, 01:43 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 20 2012, 01:43 AM) I... Mar 20 2012, 01:51 AM
jfetzer And of course I have consistently drawn the distin... Mar 20 2012, 10:15 AM
rob balsamo Wow, i see we have a huge jump in hits viewing thi... Mar 20 2012, 09:16 AM
rob balsamo Jim,
We already went over this via email when thi... Mar 20 2012, 10:24 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 20 2012, 10:24 A... Mar 20 2012, 11:38 AM
jfetzer Yes, Rob sent me this, which is a fine statement f... Mar 21 2012, 01:14 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (jimfetzer)They are "different kettles ... Mar 20 2012, 11:24 AM
jfetzer Why don't you actually read my studies and exp... Mar 20 2012, 11:59 AM
onesliceshort That you label the "mistaken" official f... Mar 20 2012, 12:59 PM
GroundPounder guys, guys, we are on the same side here, ok? Mar 20 2012, 01:39 PM
SanderO Question about a plane's wing hitting light po... Mar 20 2012, 08:09 PM
jfetzer SanderO, you are joking, right? You don't kno... Mar 21 2012, 01:25 AM
Dennis Cimino Let me tell you a little story about a P-3 that wa... Mar 21 2012, 06:52 AM
jfetzer In case anyone believes that Pilots determination ... Mar 21 2012, 01:05 AM
mrmitosis QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:05 AM) W... Mar 21 2012, 02:01 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (mrmitosis @ Mar 21 2012, 02:01 AM)... Mar 21 2012, 05:13 AM

jfetzer Since there are four parts to NPT--that no Boeing ... Mar 21 2012, 10:46 AM
jfetzer Another nice example of misunderstanding NPT. It ... Mar 21 2012, 11:13 AM
woody QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 03:13 PM) A... Mar 22 2012, 01:07 PM
Tamborine man QUOTE (woody @ Mar 20 2012, 04:07 PM) I r... Mar 23 2012, 02:39 AM
woody QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 23 2012, 06:39... Mar 23 2012, 08:13 AM
Tamborine man QUOTE (woody @ Mar 21 2012, 11:13 AM) Cer... Mar 23 2012, 11:17 AM
rob balsamo Thank you for your apology Jim... accepted.
As fo... Mar 21 2012, 10:48 AM
jfetzer Well, thanks. But your post displays a misunderst... Mar 21 2012, 11:06 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 11:06 AM) B... Mar 21 2012, 11:11 AM
jfetzer No, Rob. I am talking about FAKE PLANES, not FAKE... Mar 21 2012, 11:19 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 11:19 AM) N... Mar 21 2012, 11:24 AM
jfetzer Rob,
What you have explained is that you know som... Mar 21 2012, 12:25 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:25 PM) R... Mar 21 2012, 12:35 PM

jfetzer So it is the position of Rob Balsamo, the head of ... Mar 21 2012, 12:41 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:41 PM) S... Mar 21 2012, 12:50 PM

jfetzer This is embarrassing, but illuminating. You have ... Mar 21 2012, 01:00 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 01:00 PM) T... Mar 21 2012, 01:04 PM

jfetzer Rob,
I am not going to try to persuade you of any... Mar 21 2012, 02:15 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 02:15 PM) y... Mar 21 2012, 02:29 PM
jfetzer The use of CAPS was for emphasis. Change the to b... Mar 21 2012, 12:29 PM
jfetzer Yes, but your answers, which I shall quote here, s... Mar 21 2012, 12:36 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:36 PM) Y... Mar 21 2012, 12:42 PM
jfetzer Why can't you deal with my actual arguments, w... Mar 21 2012, 12:46 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:46 PM) W... Mar 21 2012, 12:57 PM
jfetzer Here you confirm that you not only have not read m... Mar 21 2012, 02:27 PM
rob balsamo i had a bit of time to quickly scroll through the ... Mar 21 2012, 04:54 PM
rob balsamo Our stats graph over the past week.
Thank you... Mar 21 2012, 09:50 PM
Tamborine man Just came across Shoestrings article on Bloggers.
... Mar 23 2012, 04:41 AM
amazed! Good post Mitosis.
It seems obvious to me that th... Mar 23 2012, 10:48 AM
Aldo Marquis CIT Tambourine man,
NPT=no planes theory. Not non-imp... Mar 23 2012, 12:04 PM
Tamborine man QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Mar 21 2012, 03... Mar 23 2012, 11:59 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 23 2012, 11:59... Mar 24 2012, 04:24 AM
onesliceshort http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZvugebaT6Q
That... Mar 23 2012, 01:14 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 23 2012, 12:14... Mar 23 2012, 04:38 PM
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