Debunkers Respond To Dennis Cimino, A Few Comments Copy & Pasted |

Mar 16 2012, 06:50 PM
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Edit by Rob Balsamo - I would like to make it clear that Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not endorse the No Plane Theory nor the article mentioned in the OP.
I personally have not read the article in detail, nor do i intend to. People are free to make their own choices. Please keep in mind the disclaimer in white text at the top of the forum when reviewing this thread and the article referenced. Thank you. Dennis Cimino posted an article on Veterans Today earlier this week discussing the Pentagon attack and the unresolved issues within the FDR data. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/13/91...k-is-a-fantasy/ Debunkers are already talking about it. I'd appreciate any responses to the comments below, to help me deal with a particularly loathsome GL on YouTube. (If not, I'm sure I can manage on my own...it'll just take a little bit longer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif) ...) If he knows what hes talking about, why does he insist the FDR recorder shows the plane flying just over the West Wing of the White House on its way to the Penty, when even the twoofies pilots admit it shows no such thing? Why does Dennis the ignorant fux insist the plane was heading 180, made a 330 degree right hand turn, then impact at heading 070. I mean HONESTLY, you fuxing moron, before pretending someone is an expert. Before pretending somone knows what he is talkin gabout, dont you think its a good ideaq to find out if the idiot can do SIMPLE FUXING 3RD GRADE ARITHMETIC FIRST?!?!?!?!??!?!?! I mean Jesus tittfuxing christ! Even the little drooler picture Dennis drew of the AA77 flight path doesnt even show a 270 degreee turn. Instantly noticeable to anyone not a complete idiot (like Goebbels is) Yet Dennis the Moron keeps insisting a less than 270 degreee turn was an exact 330 degree turn? LMGDAOOOO Dennis the Moron debunks herself frequently. At one moment (supposedly disproving a claim that data can sit in a buffer for several seconds before being recorded) that the FAR requires the data to be accurately recorded at least once a second. Then dismisses the Radar Altimiter data that disproves the "380 above the light poles" lie due to a magic carpet that was following the plane around, remaining underneath the Radalt ant. making it read falsely low--AND then claiming the Radal data is (contrary to previous claims) ofte ntimes "in lag" by several seconds. Dennis the Moron cant even keep his story straight. No wonder anyone with the smallest SHRED of aviation and avionics knowledge long ago dismissed his bullshit. This post has been edited by rob balsamo: Mar 19 2012, 03:20 PM |
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Mar 20 2012, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (jimfetzer) They are "different kettles of fish" in the sense that they were faked using different methods in each case, but they are the same insofar as no Boeing 757s crashed at Shanksville or hit the Pentagon and no 767 hit either tower. See now that's the subtle wordplay I was referring to in an earlier post. Taking two operations that involved military manouevres, plotted by on the ground investigators (CIT and Dom DiMaggio), what must have been mindnumbing meticulous dissection of the (bs) alleged FDR data by Pilotsfor911truth and then in the same sentence/breath, tacking on NPT in Manhattan as if they mutually compliment eachother. That's why they are most definitely a "different kettle of fish". That Flight 175 flew well above its limitations and that ACARS contradicts the OCT doesn't lead to the natural conclusion of NPT. And yes I have read your thread. I personally believe that the flash seen just before impact may have aided penetration. Couple that with the unknown factors of composition of the aircraft (TWA800 missile/drone which was designed to go through the target rather than explode on impact). Yes, some of the videos and their anomalies I can't explain, but to build a theory around them that actually becomes a Frankenstein monster in magnitude and scope when somebody who has researched ops such as JFK and CIA modus operandi would know that these fucks like to keep it tight, confuses me. I'm not going for the "disinfo agent" card that Dennis just pulled (people on this thread just wanted clarification AFAIK), I just want you guys to know that we don't have the luxury that govt loyalists have of being able to change and morph what the evidence that we can verify for ourselves shows. That's why every claim we make must have the "i" dotted and "t" crossed. I'm in no way saying "you're with us or against us". Nobody can change anybody's mind. But you've just handed them another stick with which to beat this forum and CIT. It's their research. At least have the decency to consult with them before making life harder for them. FYI Dennis, Duff posted an alleged video of a missile striking the Pentagon not so long ago. Obvious bullshit. A researcher here proved without a doubt that it was fake as hell. I informed and showed Duff the original footage it was taken from. He continued to post it while myself and others had to follow the multiple uploads on YT to let people know it was fake. Just so you know. |
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mrmitosis Debunkers Respond To Dennis Cimino Mar 16 2012, 06:50 PM
rob balsamo feel free to email Dennis... i havent seen the art... Mar 16 2012, 06:52 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 16 2012, 05:52 P... Mar 17 2012, 01:19 AM
onesliceshort What's the YT link MrM? Mar 16 2012, 07:05 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 16 2012, 06:05... Mar 16 2012, 08:52 PM
jfetzer Well, there are three studies in this series as fo... Mar 17 2012, 08:34 PM
mrmitosis Thanks, Jim
For the record, this is how I ende... Mar 17 2012, 09:20 PM
onesliceshort QUOTE According to the official account, AA Flight... Mar 17 2012, 10:53 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 17 2012, 09:53... Mar 17 2012, 11:50 PM

jfetzer I do not believe that NPT is cited or discussed in... Mar 21 2012, 10:43 AM
jfetzer Both articles discuss the impossibility of a Boein... Mar 20 2012, 01:15 AM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 20 2012, 01:15 AM) .... Mar 20 2012, 01:20 AM
jfetzer The wrong link was (what we used to call) "a ... Mar 21 2012, 10:18 AM
amazed! Jim Fetzer
I wonder if it's possible you migh... Mar 18 2012, 11:08 AM
mrmitosis QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 18 2012, 10:08 A... Mar 19 2012, 01:15 AM
onesliceshort From your link Jim.
QUOTE Pilots for 9/11 Truth C... Mar 18 2012, 01:34 PM
jfetzer Well, if no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, that supp... Mar 21 2012, 10:57 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 10:57 AM) W... Mar 21 2012, 11:00 AM
jfetzer Well, maybe Pilots still thinks its possible, but ... Mar 21 2012, 11:24 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 11:24 AM) W... Mar 21 2012, 11:26 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (jimfetzer)And, of course, as Pilots has sho... Mar 18 2012, 11:26 PM
amazed! Mitosis
Thanks for the link to the interview with... Mar 19 2012, 02:41 PM
Dennis Cimino QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 19 2012, 07:41 PM) M... Mar 20 2012, 02:25 AM
Dennis Cimino QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 19 2012, 07:41 PM) M... Mar 20 2012, 02:28 AM
jfetzer While it was good of Rob to post this on behalf of... Mar 21 2012, 01:19 AM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 01:19 AM) W... Mar 21 2012, 04:19 AM


jfetzer While I have replied to this elsewhere, Dennis sai... Mar 21 2012, 10:30 AM

jfetzer Rob has send me a copy of what he received from De... Mar 21 2012, 10:07 AM
amazed! QUOTE (Dennis Cimino @ Mar 20 2012, 02:28... Mar 21 2012, 03:39 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 21 2012, 02:39 P... Mar 23 2012, 05:14 AM
rob balsamo I would like to make it clear that Pilots For 9/11... Mar 19 2012, 03:10 PM
jfetzer Given the degree of respect I have for Rob and for... Mar 20 2012, 01:31 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 20 2012, 01:31 AM) U... Mar 20 2012, 01:35 AM
jfetzer This is bad, Rob. I cite your own work establishi... Mar 20 2012, 01:43 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 20 2012, 01:43 AM) I... Mar 20 2012, 01:51 AM
jfetzer And of course I have consistently drawn the distin... Mar 20 2012, 10:15 AM
rob balsamo Wow, i see we have a huge jump in hits viewing thi... Mar 20 2012, 09:16 AM
rob balsamo Jim,
We already went over this via email when thi... Mar 20 2012, 10:24 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 20 2012, 10:24 A... Mar 20 2012, 11:38 AM
jfetzer Yes, Rob sent me this, which is a fine statement f... Mar 21 2012, 01:14 AM
jfetzer Why don't you actually read my studies and exp... Mar 20 2012, 11:59 AM
onesliceshort That you label the "mistaken" official f... Mar 20 2012, 12:59 PM
GroundPounder guys, guys, we are on the same side here, ok? Mar 20 2012, 01:39 PM
SanderO Question about a plane's wing hitting light po... Mar 20 2012, 08:09 PM
jfetzer SanderO, you are joking, right? You don't kno... Mar 21 2012, 01:25 AM
Dennis Cimino Let me tell you a little story about a P-3 that wa... Mar 21 2012, 06:52 AM
jfetzer In case anyone believes that Pilots determination ... Mar 21 2012, 01:05 AM
mrmitosis QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:05 AM) W... Mar 21 2012, 02:01 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (mrmitosis @ Mar 21 2012, 02:01 AM)... Mar 21 2012, 05:13 AM

jfetzer Since there are four parts to NPT--that no Boeing ... Mar 21 2012, 10:46 AM
jfetzer Another nice example of misunderstanding NPT. It ... Mar 21 2012, 11:13 AM
woody QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 03:13 PM) A... Mar 22 2012, 01:07 PM
Tamborine man QUOTE (woody @ Mar 20 2012, 04:07 PM) I r... Mar 23 2012, 02:39 AM
woody QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 23 2012, 06:39... Mar 23 2012, 08:13 AM
Tamborine man QUOTE (woody @ Mar 21 2012, 11:13 AM) Cer... Mar 23 2012, 11:17 AM
rob balsamo Thank you for your apology Jim... accepted.
As fo... Mar 21 2012, 10:48 AM
jfetzer Well, thanks. But your post displays a misunderst... Mar 21 2012, 11:06 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 11:06 AM) B... Mar 21 2012, 11:11 AM
jfetzer No, Rob. I am talking about FAKE PLANES, not FAKE... Mar 21 2012, 11:19 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 11:19 AM) N... Mar 21 2012, 11:24 AM
jfetzer Rob,
What you have explained is that you know som... Mar 21 2012, 12:25 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:25 PM) R... Mar 21 2012, 12:35 PM

jfetzer So it is the position of Rob Balsamo, the head of ... Mar 21 2012, 12:41 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:41 PM) S... Mar 21 2012, 12:50 PM

jfetzer This is embarrassing, but illuminating. You have ... Mar 21 2012, 01:00 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 01:00 PM) T... Mar 21 2012, 01:04 PM

jfetzer Rob,
I am not going to try to persuade you of any... Mar 21 2012, 02:15 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 02:15 PM) y... Mar 21 2012, 02:29 PM
jfetzer The use of CAPS was for emphasis. Change the to b... Mar 21 2012, 12:29 PM
jfetzer Yes, but your answers, which I shall quote here, s... Mar 21 2012, 12:36 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:36 PM) Y... Mar 21 2012, 12:42 PM
jfetzer Why can't you deal with my actual arguments, w... Mar 21 2012, 12:46 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (jfetzer @ Mar 21 2012, 12:46 PM) W... Mar 21 2012, 12:57 PM
jfetzer Here you confirm that you not only have not read m... Mar 21 2012, 02:27 PM
rob balsamo i had a bit of time to quickly scroll through the ... Mar 21 2012, 04:54 PM
rob balsamo Our stats graph over the past week.
Thank you... Mar 21 2012, 09:50 PM
Tamborine man Just came across Shoestrings article on Bloggers.
... Mar 23 2012, 04:41 AM
amazed! Good post Mitosis.
It seems obvious to me that th... Mar 23 2012, 10:48 AM
Aldo Marquis CIT Tambourine man,
NPT=no planes theory. Not non-imp... Mar 23 2012, 12:04 PM
Tamborine man QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Mar 21 2012, 03... Mar 23 2012, 11:59 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 23 2012, 11:59... Mar 24 2012, 04:24 AM
onesliceshort http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZvugebaT6Q
That... Mar 23 2012, 01:14 PM
mrmitosis QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 23 2012, 12:14... Mar 23 2012, 04:38 PM
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