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The Government Healthcare Plan - A Must Watch!

post Mar 27 2012, 07:04 PM
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post Mar 27 2012, 07:35 PM
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thanks quest, but it was just as bad as the 1st time i saw this. thought maybe you were going to sugar coat it for me.
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post Apr 5 2012, 11:51 PM
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This might of been the best Reich-Wing Anti US Healtchare video yet.. I doubt 10% of the infomation is 100% accurate.
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post Apr 13 2012, 02:00 AM
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The new scam-plan is a farce - just another illusion - designed to suck every last dollar of means from the populace, while conversely gifting for profit medical insurance companies additional hundreds of billions of dollars of profit by denying care - I see the new proposed law as another stealth "market" ponzi-scheme.

I advocate sucking those those profits away from that market and using the hundreds of millions, billions for medical care for the working poor or lower middle class.

I've enjoyed a mix of 100% FREE medical - insurance with dental and vision, and I've gone without for several gaps of my adult life.

I was billed $900.00 21 years ago after the birth of a child, yet I had the best insurance in the county or even state.
The doctor never bothered to tell me his fee was much higher than almost every other doctor in the county. I paid it in full.

The hardest was an unsuccessful pregnancy without medical insurance. I went to a ghetto clinic and paid a weekly amount.
We were both working, but not eligible for any help. I won't get into the nasty details about the medical care.
I know we were low lifes for being married and creating another child without a pile of gold handy.

Then there was the time I revived my spouse after he was bit by a bee (allergic) - I was laid off, didn't want a $3000.00 dollar emergency room bill.
Almost had to call an ambulance. The COBRA cost at that time, at the reduced cost a couple of years ago would have been appx $40% of my unemployment.
Why bother or just quit eating.

I've paid probably $10,000.00 for COBRA insurance during gaps. What a fool I was, sure could use that money now.

I had sick children without medical insurance and I can't describe the stress of wondering if you should continue to gamble your childs health for just another hour or two, so you buy food or pay rent.

I paid a good percentage of my wages for worthless medical insurance that covered almost nothing (except flu shots of course) that even billed you $200-$300.00 FOR THE ROOM - that the doctor examined you in. A few years ago my worthless medical insurance had the wrong billing address on the back of the card - the company I worked for didn't notice until August - after I paid over a thousand in rejected bills. And this if for just yearly physicals for the children ($250.00 per child) and my spouses regular doctor visits - I think 4 a year.

This is all while being productive adults, never received any government hand outs.

The U.S. myth is a farce when it comes to equality of medical care for the huddled masses.

It's more like a lottery for your life or your childrens lives. Perverted. Does eliminate a "low class" human being or two, here and there, and no one notices.

Link - Fair Use: http://www.yesmagazine.org/blogs/sarah-van...out-the-mandate

How to Fix Health Care Without the Mandate
Why truly affordable care means single-payer.

What happens if the Supreme Court strikes down the “individual mandate” in the health care reform law?

Commentators ranging from former Labor Secretary Robert Reich to Forbes Magazine columnist Rick Ungar agree: Such a decision could open the door to single-payer health care—perhaps even make it inevitable.

This may be the best news about health care in years. Because ever since Republicans convinced the Obama administration to drop the “public option” in the Affordable Care Act, health reform has been in trouble. True, most Americans favor many of the provisions of Affordable Care Act. But the overall plan rests on forcing you and me to buy insurance from the same companies that have been driving up the costs of health care all along—the same companies that have been finding creative ways to avoid covering needed care, shifting costs on to patients, and endlessly increasing premiums and out-of-pocket expenses for all of us.

Forcing all Americans into a failed system is bad policy, and it’s not just President Obama’s opponents who say so.
What the Doctors Ordered

When the Supreme Court agreed to hear a challenge to the Affordable Care Act brought by 26 state attorneys general, one of the supporting briefs came from an unexpected source—a group of 50 doctors who believe that single-payer health care is the way to cover everyone and contain costs. As a model for a revamped health care system, they point to Medicare, which covers millions of seniors while devoting just 2 percent of expenditures to overhead (compared to as much as 16 percent for private insurers).

In spite of all the fear about government involvement in health care, Medicare is enormously popular; in a recent poll, two-thirds of Americans oppose changing Medicare to something more like private insurance. In the Medicare model, as in Canada’s single-payer system, health care providers are in private practice, but the government acts as insurer, covering everyone. The money for the program comes from payroll taxes.

This model is just one of a variety of ways that industrialized countries provide universal coverage; only the United States does not yet offer universal coverage at all, and the impact of our fragmented, privatized approach ripples throughout the economy and into the lives of families that face bankruptcy and exclusion from needed treatment.

While we in the United States spend far more on health care, per person, than any other nation, we’re way behind other wealthy countries when it comes to our actual health. The residents of 25 other countries—all of which spend less on health care than we do—can expect to live longer, on average, than U.S. residents. In a recent study of 19 industrialized countries, the United States came in last when it came to averting preventable death. Researchers say that amounts to more than a 100,000 avoidable deaths each year.

We devote 15 percent of our economy (by GDP) to paying for health care (or $6,402 per person each year), and still leave millions without coverage. In contrast, the French spend 11 percent of GDP on health care (or $3,374 per person) and cover everyone; the French live two years longer, on average, than Americans, and have better health by all key measures.
Follow the Money

If we’re spending so much for poor results, where is all the extra money going? Private, for-profit health insurance companies spend big on overhead: covering the paperwork and arguments about who will cover what, finding ways to avoid covering people who might require costly services, disputing charges from health care providers. They spend money on marketing and on lobbying Congress, federal regulators, and state lawmakers. They pay dividends to shareholders and they pay executives six- or seven-figure compensation packages. No wonder premiums keep rising.

None of these costs are incurred by Medicare or other national insurance programs.

Some argue that patients are better off with competing insurance companies because that gives them a choice. Perhaps this is true of a patient who spends many hours required to read the small print in competing insurance plans, producing spreadsheets to track the multiple variables, guessing what sort of coverage they and their family will need in years to come, and hoping that they made the right choice when an unexpected accident or illness means their life depends on the bet they made. On the other side, insurance companies have battalions of lawyers and adjusters making bets about coverage, co-pays, and deductibles—coming up with ways to cover less.

Asking each of us to choose among competing plans is like playing against the house in a casino—it might seem as though you’re getting choices among slot machines, but really, the odds are stacked against you whatever choice you make.

Where choice really matters to most people is in choosing health care providers. In France, where public financing of health care is the rule, patients actually have more choices among doctors than do Americans, who must choose among health care providers preferred by their insurance company.

So the doctors who are calling on the Supreme Court to strike down the individual mandate are on to something. Instead of locking us in even more tightly to an inefficient private insurance system, which has built-in incentives to take more of our money and do less for us, they argue we should switch gears. We’re spending $200 billion more per year than we would need to under a single-payer system, they say. We pay more out-of-pocket than other countries, and the Obama Affordable Care Act wouldn’t fix that.
What do Americans Want?

In poll after poll, a majority of Americans have expressed support for single-payer health care or national health insurance. This is true in spite of the near media blackout on this topic, and the failure of most national politicians to even consider single-payer as an option (the Obama administration and Democratic leadership in Congress excluded single-payer advocates from the key summits and hearings leading up to the passage of the health care bill).

In Massachusetts, which has had time to try out policies very similar to those in the Affordable Care Act, over 5 percent of the population remains uninsured. And, according to the doctors’ brief, local initiatives calling for single-payer health care passed by wide majorities in all the Massachusetts districts where they were on the ballot.

Vermont has adopted a single-payer health care plan, and the California Assembly twice passed single-payer, only to have it vetoed by the governor.

Single-payer health care, in short, is far more popular than the political establishment likes to admit—while requiring individuals to purchase health coverage from private insurance companies is wildly unpopular across the political spectrum. According to a recent poll, only a third of Americans favor the individual mandate, but 70 percent favor expanding the existing Medicaid program to cover more low-income, uninsured adults.

Here’s something to ask yourself: If you’re on Medicare now, would you give it up to move to a private insurance plan? If you’re not now covered and you could sign up for Medicare today, would you?
Medicare for All

That contrast offers a good starting point. We don’t need to assume that our health care policy must be designed to maintain the health-industrial complex and their lobbyists in the manner to which they have become accustomed. Instead, we can expand Medicare to cover more and more age groups, until everyone is covered. We could all then have access to a program that keeps overhead low, is wildly popular among its clients, and is similar to programs in Europe, Canada, Japan, and elsewhere that have excellent records of cost containment, universal coverage, and great health outcomes.

So what happens if the Supreme Court overturns the individual mandate or—as now seems possible—rejects the entire package? Such a move could turn out to be a great boon to those who doubt the wisdom of relying on private, profit-focused insurance companies to cover us when we get sick. It could offer us the opportunity to get the sort of proven universal coverage we can count on.

Sarah van Gelder wrote this article for YES! Magazine, a national, nonprofit media organization that fuses powerful ideas with practical actions. Sarah is co-founder and executive editor of YES!.

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post Apr 14 2012, 02:26 PM
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You must be off your meds....
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