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Wtc Misrepresentations: New Book, Requesting Feedback

MajorTom
post May 17 2012, 01:20 PM
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I am a new poster here. Hello to all participants and readers


This is the draft version of a book on the WTC collapses:


Introduction
1: Science vs Subjective Viewpoints
2: WTC Collapses Misrepresented
....2.1: Progressive Floor Collapse in the WTC Towers
....2.2: Purpose of the NIST Reports
....2.3: NIST WTC1 Misrepresentation
....2.4: NIST WTC7 Misrepresentation
....2.5: NIST WTC2 Misrepresentation
....2.6: Bazant Misrepresentation of Collapse Progression
....2.7: Block Mechanics
....2.8: AE911T Misrepresentations of the Collapses
3: Toward Accurate Collapse Histories
4: Reassessing the Question of Demolition
5: Collapses Misrepresented as a False Choice
6: Testing the Thesis for Validity
Author's Conclusions




The same table of contents is on my website, second menu down, here.


Thank you for any questions or feedback to help improve the book.


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SanderO
post May 21 2012, 10:31 AM
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Amazed,

Don't beat up on yourself. 99.9999% of the observers are in the Peter Jennings club. That club is largely informed by using analogy or comparison to make sense of the world. We all do it when we don't have the technical background or expertise... which is why courts use expert witnesses.

No collapse has ever been filmed in the act... Few have seen one... and certainly no tall building have collapsed because a collapse requires structural failure... from causes such as fire, mechanical damage, and earth quake of a intense weather event or an explosion.

As most truthers have noted, building don't collapse from fire... office fires. But in the case of the twins there were other factors to consider:

The unique design and assembly of the structural frame/system.
the damage caused by plane impacts to the structural frame
the presence of jet fuel fires

So we have no personal references of seeing building collapses - we don't know what it looked like in the past. We have no recorded videos of towers collapsing EXCEPT for CDs (is that prejudicing our thinking Mr. Jennings?). We have no examples of buildings completely collapsing from office fires (not exactly an analogy) We have only one example of a skyscraper being hit by a plane - ESB and it did not collapse - but it was a different design and a much smaller plane.

And of course we have all the images of explosions on TV and the movies plus the handful of CDs to use a references.

If you add a motive ... the inside job to start wars - false flag... it further prejudices what you think you are seeing.

And when someone comes along to tell you that you may be and likely are wrong about your observations... you shoot the messenger and label them a plant, a spy, a shill for the insiders and worse. I've been there.

Thank you Tom for your eloquent presentation and hard work.
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- MajorTom   Wtc Misrepresentations: New Book, Requesting Feedback   May 17 2012, 01:20 PM
- - amazed!   I am not qualified to judge the technical stuff re...   May 18 2012, 10:38 AM
- - SanderO   Tom is one of the finest researchers who has looke...   May 18 2012, 11:27 AM
|- - onesliceshort   Welcome Major Tom. I've been a lurker at Femr...   May 18 2012, 11:06 PM
|- - SanderO   OSS, My hypothesis is not void of evidence... it ...   May 19 2012, 07:05 AM
- - amazed!   ....so then, it's speculation all 'round   May 19 2012, 08:37 AM
|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (amazed! @ May 19 2012, 01:37 P...   May 19 2012, 12:13 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 19 2012, 06:13...   May 19 2012, 10:58 PM
|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (elreb @ May 20 2012, 03:58 AM) OSS...   May 20 2012, 07:02 AM
- - SanderO   I am not trying to find a middle ground. I am hop...   May 19 2012, 08:58 PM
- - onesliceshort   From Major Tom' book.. QUOTE These waves of c...   May 20 2012, 12:09 PM
- - onesliceshort   Double post.   May 20 2012, 12:10 PM
- - SanderO   I suppose one can calculate how much explosives it...   May 20 2012, 02:50 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (SanderO @ May 20 2012, 08:50 AM) I...   May 20 2012, 04:43 PM
- - MajorTom   OSS, consider the Chandler "race with gravity...   May 20 2012, 03:40 PM
- - MajorTom   From a demo point of view, it seems important to r...   May 20 2012, 03:54 PM
|- - amazed!   QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 20 2012, 03:54 PM) ...   May 21 2012, 09:08 AM
- - MajorTom   Or, consider the image from the Anders Borkman we...   May 20 2012, 04:13 PM
- - SanderO   Elreb, Thermate is heat producing and not explosi...   May 20 2012, 08:03 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (SanderO @ May 20 2012, 02:03 PM) T...   May 20 2012, 10:17 PM
- - onesliceshort   Hi Tom QUOTE Now, if one can sustain floor collap...   May 20 2012, 11:35 PM
|- - SanderO   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 20 2012, 11:35...   May 21 2012, 07:52 AM
- - MajorTom   It is a highly complex set of events. Another imp...   May 21 2012, 12:07 AM
- - SanderO   I've maintained that there is a complete (almo...   May 21 2012, 08:07 AM
- - SanderO   Amazed, Don't beat up on yourself. 99.9999% o...   May 21 2012, 10:31 AM
- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (SanderO @ May 21 2012, 12:52 PM) O...   May 21 2012, 12:28 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 21 2012, 06:28...   May 21 2012, 02:36 PM
- - onesliceshort   I'm not going to dignify that irrelevant rant ...   May 21 2012, 03:34 PM
- - SanderO   OSS, You have no idea of the *work* or research I...   May 21 2012, 07:21 PM
- - MajorTom   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 21 2012, 12:28...   May 23 2012, 12:06 AM
- - MajorTom   SanderO writes: QUOTE I am not the enemy and I am...   May 23 2012, 12:14 AM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 22 2012, 06:14 PM) ...   May 23 2012, 01:36 AM
|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 23 2012, 05:14 AM) ...   May 23 2012, 06:14 PM
- - MajorTom   SanderO: QUOTE There is no certain evidence of CD ...   May 23 2012, 12:32 AM
- - amazed!   SanderO Oh, I'm not beating myself up regardi...   May 23 2012, 10:28 AM
- - SanderO   Amazed... think of the *problem* like this for exa...   May 23 2012, 11:42 AM
|- - amazed!   QUOTE (SanderO @ May 23 2012, 11:42 AM) A...   May 24 2012, 03:16 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (amazed! @ May 24 2012, 09:16 A...   May 24 2012, 03:53 PM
|- - amazed!   QUOTE (elreb @ May 24 2012, 03:53 PM) Ama...   May 25 2012, 03:31 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (amazed! @ May 25 2012, 09:31 A...   May 25 2012, 04:46 PM
- - SanderO   OSS, I am neither playing a victim nor feel like ...   May 23 2012, 08:14 PM
- - Tamborine man   It is in this video one will find the true answers...   May 23 2012, 10:03 PM
- - Tamborine man   And i can't see any harm in now and then re-visiti...   May 23 2012, 10:29 PM
- - MajorTom   Another glimpse of that knuckle What are we to ...   May 24 2012, 11:58 AM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 22 2012, 02:58 PM) ...   May 24 2012, 11:45 PM
|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 24 2012, 04:58 PM) ...   May 26 2012, 06:33 PM
|- - SanderO   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 26 2012, 06:33...   May 27 2012, 07:03 PM
- - MajorTom   There has only been one attempt to measure the ear...   May 24 2012, 12:08 PM
- - MajorTom   There has only been one attempt to measure the ear...   May 24 2012, 12:10 PM
- - SanderO   The spire columns came down from Euler buckling. ...   May 25 2012, 07:53 AM
- - KP50   I always find the best starting point for 9/11 is ...   May 25 2012, 10:47 PM
- - elreb   I have always been a team player. He is still wel...   May 25 2012, 11:00 PM
- - SanderO   I am on no one's side Elreb. I am interested ...   May 26 2012, 12:41 AM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (SanderO @ May 25 2012, 06:41 PM) I...   May 26 2012, 01:17 AM
- - SanderO   Elreb, Asking questions is what is needed. I have...   May 26 2012, 08:52 AM
- - amazed!   Thanks Elreb--now I see what you're saying. I...   May 26 2012, 10:52 AM
- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (SanderO)Proposing a theory is fine... and t...   May 26 2012, 06:02 PM
- - onesliceshort   Just thought I'd add a few images I came acros...   May 26 2012, 07:09 PM
- - paranoia   my take on the oft-called "spire": they ...   May 27 2012, 02:55 AM
- - onesliceshort   Definitely weird mate. Here's another image (...   May 27 2012, 05:25 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 27 2012, 11:25...   May 27 2012, 06:43 PM
||- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (elreb @ May 27 2012, 11:43 PM) You...   May 27 2012, 06:57 PM
||- - SanderO   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 27 2012, 06:57...   May 27 2012, 07:06 PM
||- - elreb   QUOTE (SanderO @ May 27 2012, 01:06 PM) N...   May 27 2012, 07:27 PM
||- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (elreb @ May 28 2012, 12:27 AM) I a...   May 28 2012, 07:12 AM
|- - paranoia   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 27 2012, 05:25...   May 28 2012, 07:35 AM
- - SanderO   Paranoia, I have many slides explaining aspects o...   May 28 2012, 08:15 AM
- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (SamderO)..then push down on the top That e...   May 28 2012, 09:20 AM
- - SanderO   If you follow the link I posted you will find my s...   May 28 2012, 10:39 AM
- - amazed!   In the spirit of Aristotle comment that it is the ...   May 28 2012, 11:06 AM
- - kawika   I don't understand how any conclusion can be m...   May 28 2012, 11:08 AM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (kawika @ May 28 2012, 05:08 AM) If...   May 28 2012, 01:37 PM
- - onesliceshort   SanderO, those calculations and the Purdue lecture...   May 28 2012, 11:32 AM
- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (Kawika)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zsp0...   May 28 2012, 03:14 PM
- - SanderO   The collapse of the floors stripped the core colum...   May 28 2012, 03:34 PM
- - onesliceshort   Back on topic.. There's an excellent thread o...   May 28 2012, 05:27 PM
- - SanderO   The key to understand the Euler buckling is that t...   May 28 2012, 06:20 PM
- - KP50   Hi all, I've attempted to move all WTC7 discu...   May 30 2012, 10:53 PM
|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (KP50 @ May 31 2012, 03:53 AM) Hi a...   May 30 2012, 11:18 PM
- - Tamborine man   Sorry to say, but what we see in any of the video ...   May 31 2012, 11:50 PM
- - MajorTom   Paranoia: "edit: not that im saying its not ...   Jun 7 2012, 07:13 AM
- - MajorTom   I asked him to reconsider the inclusion of this ph...   Jun 7 2012, 07:23 AM
- - MajorTom   Within the images of all the columns, I have never...   Jun 7 2012, 07:35 AM
- - SanderO   In the first picture of the diagonal cut... the co...   Jun 7 2012, 12:05 PM


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