Wtc Misrepresentations: New Book, Requesting Feedback |

May 17 2012, 01:20 PM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 16 Joined: 3-May 12 Member No.: 6,812 |
I am a new poster here. Hello to all participants and readers
This is the draft version of a book on the WTC collapses: Introduction 1: Science vs Subjective Viewpoints 2: WTC Collapses Misrepresented ....2.1: Progressive Floor Collapse in the WTC Towers ....2.2: Purpose of the NIST Reports ....2.3: NIST WTC1 Misrepresentation ....2.4: NIST WTC7 Misrepresentation ....2.5: NIST WTC2 Misrepresentation ....2.6: Bazant Misrepresentation of Collapse Progression ....2.7: Block Mechanics ....2.8: AE911T Misrepresentations of the Collapses 3: Toward Accurate Collapse Histories 4: Reassessing the Question of Demolition 5: Collapses Misrepresented as a False Choice 6: Testing the Thesis for Validity Author's Conclusions The same table of contents is on my website, second menu down, here. Thank you for any questions or feedback to help improve the book. |
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May 21 2012, 07:21 PM
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Group: Troll Posts: 1,174 Joined: 23-December 09 From: NYC Member No.: 4,814 |
OSS,
You have no idea of the *work* or research I have produced. I don't have a website and therefore don't publish my work... which is is a work in progress. This site does not allow uploads of PDF from my hard drive. 911FF does and I have uploaded some of my work there as well as Deep Politics. I've also made my PDFs available to anyone who requests them via email or through a PM with an email address. I've sent my work to many people including members of this site. Your dismissive comments aside from being insulting (something I am used to) disregards the fact that I provide susbstantive written replies to your points... which you refuse to dignify likely because you have no response. You are not a structural engineer, not a physicists and not an expert in explosives. You are intelligent person who has picked a fight with me because you don't like the SPECULATIVE theory I proposed which needs to be tested and further researched. I'm not offering proof, nor debating whether my speculation is better than your speculation. I don't believe there is evidence in the public record which can prove what initiated the collapse of B7. If it was as I suspect a T truss failure... the T truss certainly could have been fatally damaged by explosives or cutter charges. I can't disprove it and you can prove it was either. MORE STUDY IS REQUIRED. Aside from your (and others) vague description (speculation) that the building was CDed you have given no development (nor they) of exactly or even inexactly how this might have been done, how it was done, what sort of devices would / could have been used and so forth. You can't say this, nor the others because there is no way to know such things. And this is why we call for further investigation. There is no certain evidence of CD in any of the collapses. There are odd aspects to the collapse of the twins at the moment of initiation which apparently seem unlike a collapse... according to Tom... and could be the sign of explosives. I don't think anyone can go to the CD bank with that anomaly. I have spent several years trying to explain to others that many of the things they consider to be slam dunk CD evidence are not... such as the speed of collapse or the *symmetry of collapse* or the billowing clouds or the amount of dust... or the creation of enormous heat... or the fracturing of the frame into the section lengths it was built from and so on. There are unusual phenomena.... I can't explain them, but that doesn't mean they must be from CD. You need to watch your manners. I am not the enemy and I am not rude, or dismissive or insulting. I hope you learn something from Tom's book... I did. |
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MajorTom Wtc Misrepresentations: New Book, Requesting Feedback May 17 2012, 01:20 PM
amazed! I am not qualified to judge the technical stuff re... May 18 2012, 10:38 AM
SanderO Tom is one of the finest researchers who has looke... May 18 2012, 11:27 AM
onesliceshort Welcome Major Tom.
I've been a lurker at Femr... May 18 2012, 11:06 PM
SanderO OSS,
My hypothesis is not void of evidence... it ... May 19 2012, 07:05 AM
amazed! ....so then, it's speculation all 'round May 19 2012, 08:37 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (amazed! @ May 19 2012, 01:37 P... May 19 2012, 12:13 PM
elreb QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 19 2012, 06:13... May 19 2012, 10:58 PM
onesliceshort QUOTE (elreb @ May 20 2012, 03:58 AM) OSS... May 20 2012, 07:02 AM
SanderO I am not trying to find a middle ground. I am hop... May 19 2012, 08:58 PM
onesliceshort From Major Tom' book..
QUOTE These waves of c... May 20 2012, 12:09 PM
onesliceshort Double post. May 20 2012, 12:10 PM
SanderO I suppose one can calculate how much explosives it... May 20 2012, 02:50 PM
elreb QUOTE (SanderO @ May 20 2012, 08:50 AM) I... May 20 2012, 04:43 PM
MajorTom OSS, consider the Chandler "race with gravity... May 20 2012, 03:40 PM
MajorTom From a demo point of view, it seems important to r... May 20 2012, 03:54 PM
amazed! QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 20 2012, 03:54 PM) ... May 21 2012, 09:08 AM
MajorTom Or, consider the image from the Anders Borkman we... May 20 2012, 04:13 PM
SanderO Elreb,
Thermate is heat producing and not explosi... May 20 2012, 08:03 PM
elreb QUOTE (SanderO @ May 20 2012, 02:03 PM) T... May 20 2012, 10:17 PM
onesliceshort Hi Tom
QUOTE Now, if one can sustain floor collap... May 20 2012, 11:35 PM
SanderO QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 20 2012, 11:35... May 21 2012, 07:52 AM
MajorTom It is a highly complex set of events. Another imp... May 21 2012, 12:07 AM
SanderO I've maintained that there is a complete (almo... May 21 2012, 08:07 AM
SanderO Amazed,
Don't beat up on yourself. 99.9999% o... May 21 2012, 10:31 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (SanderO @ May 21 2012, 12:52 PM) O... May 21 2012, 12:28 PM
elreb QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 21 2012, 06:28... May 21 2012, 02:36 PM
onesliceshort I'm not going to dignify that irrelevant rant ... May 21 2012, 03:34 PM
MajorTom QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 21 2012, 12:28... May 23 2012, 12:06 AM
MajorTom SanderO writes:
QUOTE I am not the enemy and I am... May 23 2012, 12:14 AM
elreb QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 22 2012, 06:14 PM) ... May 23 2012, 01:36 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 23 2012, 05:14 AM) ... May 23 2012, 06:14 PM
MajorTom SanderO:
QUOTE There is no certain evidence of CD ... May 23 2012, 12:32 AM
amazed! SanderO
Oh, I'm not beating myself up regardi... May 23 2012, 10:28 AM
SanderO Amazed... think of the *problem* like this for exa... May 23 2012, 11:42 AM
amazed! QUOTE (SanderO @ May 23 2012, 11:42 AM) A... May 24 2012, 03:16 PM
elreb QUOTE (amazed! @ May 24 2012, 09:16 A... May 24 2012, 03:53 PM
amazed! QUOTE (elreb @ May 24 2012, 03:53 PM) Ama... May 25 2012, 03:31 PM
elreb QUOTE (amazed! @ May 25 2012, 09:31 A... May 25 2012, 04:46 PM
SanderO OSS,
I am neither playing a victim nor feel like ... May 23 2012, 08:14 PM
Tamborine man It is in this video one will find the true answers... May 23 2012, 10:03 PM
Tamborine man And i can't see any harm in now and then re-visiti... May 23 2012, 10:29 PM
MajorTom Another glimpse of that knuckle
What are we to ... May 24 2012, 11:58 AM
Tamborine man QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 22 2012, 02:58 PM) ... May 24 2012, 11:45 PM
onesliceshort QUOTE (MajorTom @ May 24 2012, 04:58 PM) ... May 26 2012, 06:33 PM
SanderO QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 26 2012, 06:33... May 27 2012, 07:03 PM
MajorTom There has only been one attempt to measure the ear... May 24 2012, 12:08 PM
MajorTom There has only been one attempt to measure the ear... May 24 2012, 12:10 PM
SanderO The spire columns came down from Euler buckling.
... May 25 2012, 07:53 AM
KP50 I always find the best starting point for 9/11 is ... May 25 2012, 10:47 PM
elreb I have always been a team player.
He is still wel... May 25 2012, 11:00 PM
SanderO I am on no one's side Elreb. I am interested ... May 26 2012, 12:41 AM
elreb QUOTE (SanderO @ May 25 2012, 06:41 PM) I... May 26 2012, 01:17 AM
SanderO Elreb,
Asking questions is what is needed. I have... May 26 2012, 08:52 AM
amazed! Thanks Elreb--now I see what you're saying.
I... May 26 2012, 10:52 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (SanderO)Proposing a theory is fine... and t... May 26 2012, 06:02 PM
onesliceshort Just thought I'd add a few images I came acros... May 26 2012, 07:09 PM
paranoia my take on the oft-called "spire": they ... May 27 2012, 02:55 AM
onesliceshort Definitely weird mate.
Here's another image (... May 27 2012, 05:25 PM
elreb QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 27 2012, 11:25... May 27 2012, 06:43 PM

onesliceshort QUOTE (elreb @ May 27 2012, 11:43 PM) You... May 27 2012, 06:57 PM

SanderO QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 27 2012, 06:57... May 27 2012, 07:06 PM

elreb QUOTE (SanderO @ May 27 2012, 01:06 PM) N... May 27 2012, 07:27 PM

onesliceshort QUOTE (elreb @ May 28 2012, 12:27 AM) I a... May 28 2012, 07:12 AM
paranoia QUOTE (onesliceshort @ May 27 2012, 05:25... May 28 2012, 07:35 AM
SanderO Paranoia,
I have many slides explaining aspects o... May 28 2012, 08:15 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (SamderO)..then push down on the top
That e... May 28 2012, 09:20 AM
SanderO If you follow the link I posted you will find my s... May 28 2012, 10:39 AM
amazed! In the spirit of Aristotle comment that it is the ... May 28 2012, 11:06 AM
kawika I don't understand how any conclusion can be m... May 28 2012, 11:08 AM
elreb QUOTE (kawika @ May 28 2012, 05:08 AM) If... May 28 2012, 01:37 PM
onesliceshort SanderO, those calculations and the Purdue lecture... May 28 2012, 11:32 AM
onesliceshort QUOTE (Kawika)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zsp0... May 28 2012, 03:14 PM
SanderO The collapse of the floors stripped the core colum... May 28 2012, 03:34 PM
onesliceshort Back on topic..
There's an excellent thread o... May 28 2012, 05:27 PM
SanderO The key to understand the Euler buckling is that t... May 28 2012, 06:20 PM
KP50 Hi all,
I've attempted to move all WTC7 discu... May 30 2012, 10:53 PM
onesliceshort QUOTE (KP50 @ May 31 2012, 03:53 AM) Hi a... May 30 2012, 11:18 PM
Tamborine man Sorry to say, but what we see in any of the video ... May 31 2012, 11:50 PM
MajorTom Paranoia: "edit: not that im saying its not ... Jun 7 2012, 07:13 AM
MajorTom I asked him to reconsider the inclusion of this ph... Jun 7 2012, 07:23 AM
MajorTom Within the images of all the columns, I have never... Jun 7 2012, 07:35 AM
SanderO In the first picture of the diagonal cut... the co... Jun 7 2012, 12:05 PM
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