From 9/11, Who Benefits? Btw, Putin Builds A $1b Palace On Black Sea, and it seems Putin wants to disassociate himself from the palace Options

[paulmichael]

As part of crime investigation and solving, it is a wise question to ask: "Who benefits?"

If you check out my prior threads:
Joseph Solari, A Now-deceased Bronx Goodfella (9/11 Connection??) at http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22107 ;
Money Laundering Investigations In Wtc 7... & 6, Too at http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22110,
Realign Your Thinking About W.t.c. Demolition at http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22116
then you'll have to take notice of the mention of the Russian mafia and how they stood to benefit from 9/11 and the War in Afghanistan.

It's been said that there is little distinction between the Russian mafia and the Russian government.

Nuclear specialist Dimitri Khalezov stated unequivocally that it was a Soviet P-700 Granit missile that struck the Pentagon. It has been alleged that corruption and bribery paid for the billion dollar palace of Putin. Gee, what does a P-700 Granit missile go for on the black market?

People have been wracking their brains trying to figure out how two big holes were punched into the North and South Towers of the WTC. Maybe, just maybe no one can figure it out because some newfangled, top-secret technology was utilized for this purpose. From where does such technology come? Well, people in 9/11 Truth forums are fixated on Israel as the prime suspect for 9/11, but such indeterminable technology comes from a superpower. Israel, I don't think, is a superpower. A certain billion dollar palace is being built in just such a superpower. It is alleged that the cost of that palace is being paid by bribery and corruption. There is not much distinction between the Russian mafia and the Russian government. Gee, what does newfangled technology go for on the black market while the palace is on the Black Sea?

Putin has been trying to distance himself from a connection to that new palace.

Take a gander at photos of the palace at http://www.therichtimes.com/wordpress/2011...nd-gets-hacked/

P.M.

[paulmichael]

So, Mr. P built a $1,000,000,000 house!

So, what's wrong with this picture?

Well, most U.S. billionaires, some of whom are worth more than $40,000,000,000, cannot afford to build such a house. Why? It's because most of the wealth of U.S. billionaires is tied up in non-liquid assets, not cash to be spent on a house. As evidence, the most expensive homes and condos on the market in the U.S. run about $150,000,000, asking, and it's doubtful that the sellers will actually get their prices.

Moreover, most U.S. billionaires would be unwilling to pay for upkeep and huge staffing levels that such a palace would require, this not to mention utility bills to heat and cool the place. (One report, which I doubt, stated that the square footage of the palace is 8,000,000 sq. ft. Maybe 200,000 sq. ft. would be more like it. I don't know.)

So, it looks like Mr. P had $1,000,000,000 worth of Loose Change rattling around in his pockets to splurge on the palace, this not to mention future incidentals.

P.M.

[SanderO]

Paul,
I don't consider the damage to the facades of both twin towers mysterious. A high speed plane would cause such damage. There has been discussion about how fast the planes were traveling or whether the planes were the commercial flights claimed. Both of these points, though important are not germane to the damaged witnessed. A large plane hitting the towers at anything like normal speed with punch in the facade columns.

You needed look for or consider some sort of exotic high tech... super power only missle... not to mention that regardless of the size, type and speed hundreds of witnesses have stated they've seen a plane hit the towers and some sort of planes are seen on multiple videos.

The plane aspect of the event is perhaps the most vexing as so little of the official story about them makes sense.

So if the officials knew it was a Russian mafia plot why wouldn't they declare war on the Russians?

[paulmichael]

A contributer in another forum of another website wrote:

Putin intrigues me. On the one hand, he definitely seems like no friend of the 'Russian' Jewish billionaires, who hate him, and many of whom he put in prison. The ones that didn't flee Russia, that is.

Allow me to totally digress here by switching to a fictional tale. It's about the character Julio Lani, for whom, if there is any similarity to any real person living or dead, it is strictly coincidental.

Julio Lani was a law enforcement agent extraordinaire! But this is how things went with Julio Lani: he went after certain mobsters and incarcerated them on the one hand, all the while being in bed with his favorite mobster-cronies on the other hand. In this way, Julio Lani put on a very convincing false front to his adoring fans among the citizenry.

What motivated Julio Lani and his colleagues was their quick observation that as they took more and more targeted mobsters out, there was the potential to establish a crime monopoly unto Julio Lani and his cronies with ever greater profit-making potential, most of his crime-world competition having been "taken out."

One of Julio Lani's favorite areas of profitable vice was narcotics. As he took out more and more drug dealers, this reduced the available supply of drugs on the street, and according to the basics of Economics and the law of supply and demand, as supply goes down, PRICE GOES UP. With ever growing incentives to "get in on the action," that's exactly what Julio Lani did in concert with his favorite mobster buddies that he had lined up as contacts during his ostensibly, but phony, hero/law enforcer career.

So, eventually, Julio Lani, with a spare trillion dollars of ill-gotten gain, went out and build a much bigger replica of Disneyland, Disney World, and the Jackson Neverland Ranch combined on the Red Sea, but, of course, first, that trillion dollars of ill-gotten gain had to be so completely sanitized through his money laundering cronies that no one ever suspected that it was ever connected to the demolition of the -----------. END OF STORY.

Don't ask me about Putin. I don't know the guy personally. I only know what I read in Wikipedia which said:

The 2011 Democracy Index stated that Russia has been in "a long process of regression culminated in a move from a hybrid to an authoritarian regime" under Putin,[22] and American diplomatic cables leaked by WikiLeaks allege that Russia has become a "virtual mafia state" due to systematic corruption in Putin's governance,[23][24] allegations which Putin adamantly denies.

To repeat: it's been noted on the Net that there is not much distinction between the Russian mafia and the Russian government.

I'd like to add that, historically, Afghanistan, contrary to what the news media would currently have you believe, was the number one producer of poppies/opium/heroin. Prior to the war there, the Taliban successfully banned 95+ percent of the production of poppies/opium/heroin, but once the Taliban got distracted with the war, such production came back immediately and in earnest. Gee, over the course of a decade or so, I wonder what the value of all those narcotics has been.

Also, it was reported on the Net, that it is the modus operandi of the Russian mafia to, not only indulge in narcotics dealing with the Afghans, but also to deal in armaments. Have we ever learned who has been supplying armaments to the so-called "insurgents?" No, not really, but it has been reported that Russian-made RPG's were in use in Afghanistan. Just how much money have those armaments been worth, and where exactly did it go? Did some of it go into the Black Sea... or, perhaps, on the Black Sea?

P.M.

[paulmichael]

So if the officials knew it was a Russian mafia plot why wouldn't they declare war on the Russians?

I am going to, at this time, limit my response to just this:

If you think that politics makes for strange bedfellows, just try poverty.

And if you think that poverty makes for strange bedfellows, just try examining conspiracies a bit closer!

P.M.

[paulmichael]

I don't consider the damage to the facades of both twin towers mysterious. A high speed plane would cause such damage. There has been discussion about how fast the planes were traveling or whether the planes were the commercial flights claimed. Both of these points, though important are not germane to the damaged witnessed. A large plane hitting the towers at anything like normal speed with punch in the facade columns.

You needed look for or consider some sort of exotic high tech... super power only missle... not to mention that regardless of the size, type and speed hundreds of witnesses have stated they've seen a plane hit the towers and some sort of planes are seen on multiple videos.

This is what I'd like to address: your assertion that "hundreds of witnesses have stated they've seen a plane hit the towers."

I think a consultation with an illusionist like David Copperfield or David Blaine on the subject of the power of suggestion is in order.

Here's a possible explanation for what may have happened… perhaps a highly possible one.

"Hundreds of witnesses" may have boiled down to just a half-dozen shills who, as instructed, at the right moment, dialed 911 and screamed "A plane, a plane hit the World Trade Center!" Then these shills would turn to fellow pedestrians at street level and ask repeatedly in an agitated manner: "Did you see it? Did you see it? It flew right overhead! The plane! The plane! The plane that flew into the North Tower?" until the people around the shills started to think that they had actually seen it happen.

The shills' calls to the 911 dispatch center got relayed to first responders many times over with the news media picking it up, and people on the street got the news over their smart phones, and they too started to believe the shills' story especially since they got it from the familiar face of a prominent newscaster.

With lots of firefighters and EMTs moving among the crowds and talking about planes, these crowds overhearing this soon started to believe that they, too, saw planes. After all, it was coming from the mouths of officials, right?

But the really big thing is that THE NEWS SKEWED SO-CALLED "EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS" TO THOSE THAT CONFORMED TO THE OFFICIAL STORY, WHILE NOT AIRING MUCH ABOUT DISSENTING ACCOUNTS OF OTHERS. Repetition, repetition and repetition sealed it into the psyche of Americans, and, so, it seemed that there were hundreds of witnesses to planes when, in fact, there were as little as six shills and only six shills.

So where does one recruit such shills? Well, it should be easy. All that you need do is to approach someone who is facing sentencing in a criminal drug case, and tell the prospect that all of his troubles can go away in exchange for just one little favor, that little favor as noted above.

Then you follow up all of this with propaganda on later news reports to further hammer away and seal things into the psyche of the American public, so much so that people who were on the West Coast, some 3,000 miles from the World Trade Center start to believe that they, too, were eyewitnesses on the street on 9/11.

David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear, you know.

You wrote:

I don't consider the damage to the facades of both twin towers mysterious. A high speed plane would cause such damage. There has been discussion about how fast the planes were traveling or whether the planes were the commercial flights claimed.

OK, it's good to know that there was prior discussion about this, and I will let the issue go at that.

You know, statements from airline personnel about 9/11 on the news have been virtually nonexistent. Have such personnel been sworn to secrecy? Nevertheless, over the last 11 years or so, I have heard [supposedly] from just a couple of flight attendants (and these two may have been one and the same) that they lost friends on 9/11. What am I to make of this? Is this a lie from a shill? After all, Oprah had non-credible 9/11 guests on her show. See:" WTC Elevators & Oprah's Failure" in the North Tower forum at http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22109 .


P.M.….P.S. When I have the time, I am going to transcribe the prologue of the DVD "In Memoriam, 9/11 NYC…" which really hammers into the psyche of the viewer NONSENSE about untold numbers of witnesses and journalists and unprecedented access to Ghouliani's administration.

[paulmichael]

hundreds of witnesses have stated they've seen a plane hit the towers and some sort of planes are seen on multiple videos.

SanderO, don't you think it odd that last year, leading up to the big 10-year anniversary of 9/11, there was a major news build-up to that event, then in late July, 2011, the news media went into a virtual news blackout on the subject until about three days before 9/11/2011 when they came back out with hard-hitting lies? This is not what I want to stress, however.

When they resumed news coverage last year, there wasn't a single video aired on T.V. of a plane approaching or striking either WTC tower. My best guess is that the videos that were previously publicized raised such a storm of controversy on the Net for being falsified, that it was deemed safer to not air them at all. The only other alternative was to come up with new and improved falsified videos, but this would have raised an even bigger storm of controversy.

There were, however, still photos (obviously "Photoshopped") which were published in the newspapers at the time of the anniversary of 9/11 of [alleged] terror planes still in mid-flight approaching the towers on 9/11/2001.

Similarly, while videos of the WTC towers being reduced to dust from top to bottom were shown a thousand times a day on 9/11 and for many days thereafter, not a single such video was televised around the 10th anniversary. Only once or twice did I see a half-second video of the last plume of dust arising from one of the towers.

It is now September 5, 2012, and it seems that, yet again, there is a 9/11 news blackout in effect prior to this year's anniversary, this, I guess, to be consistent with the blackout of last year.

P.M.