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Major Nasypany Said Plane Is Lost In Sea Of Blips When Transponder Off, I Thought It Was "sore Thumb?"

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post Feb 16 2015, 03:22 PM
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Are we dealing with Naspany as part of the cover-up? Or am I missing something, do not want to oversimplify anything.


Hate to say this, but everyone on that day is open game to be a part of a cover-up. Look at what was originally said and written about 911 and then as you proceed forward to today, watch how stories change.

Look for key people who started out saying one thing and then later their story changes to go along with the official story. Those are the people that you need to watch closely.
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post Feb 16 2015, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (Truthissweet @ Feb 16 2015, 02:22 PM) *
Hate to say this, but everyone on that day is open game to be a part of a cover-up. Look at what was originally said and written about 911 and then as you proceed forward to today, watch how stories change.

Look for key people who started out saying one thing and then later their story changes to go along with the official story. Those are the people that you need to watch closely.


Agree with you there Truth', as the public gained knowledge from ad hoc public investigators with credentials, the official story needed changes and new explanations. So, quite naturally the "insiders" would provide us with a constantly morphing series of stories.

Of course there are still some artifacts they can't cover up, so, when you ask where the 500,000 tons of concrete, the office furniture, filing cabinets, desks, chairs, phones, servers and their cabinets all went, it's >crickets< silence.
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Agree John S

I too am wanting to know the answer to the question. And it would likely only require a few words . . . . .

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QUOTE (Munkle @ Feb 13 2015, 04:00 PM) *
QUESTION: I thought when a transponder got turned off, a plane on radar stood out like a sore thumb, for that very reason, the transponder is off, and it can then be "tagged." So which one is it? Lost in a sea of blips, or sore thumb? Does type of radar equipment matter? Article also reads:


Since the expert pilots aren't piping in...

I am watching 911 The New Pearl Harbor video now,
trying to get my father up to speed.

They cover this in the film.

Apparently, once the transponder is switched off, the plane
can still be seen on the radar screen, only the plane height data
is missing.

Taken straight from the video.
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post Feb 17 2015, 09:48 AM
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(In a Kasey Kasim voice) At #7 in today's countdown....


On Bing, this thread is at #7.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=major+nasypan...mp;sp=1&sk=
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post Apr 4 2015, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE (Truthissweet @ Feb 15 2015, 10:49 AM) *
The Naudet brothers imbedded themselves with firemen in May. Their purpose was to follow firemen on daily activities.

A false gas alert put them at that location on 911 for sole purpose of capturing whatever hit tower. The camera was trained on north tower to capture strike. They are associated with perps. No doubt about that.


The VERY FACT that 9/11 IMPACTS were caught on camera has always pestered me. HOW CONVENIENT to have someone right THERE, with a camera, to catch it all on film! I mean, the camera is TRAINED on the WTC when the impacts occur! THINK! The possibility of such a coincidence is ridiculous!
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QUOTE (excontroller @ Apr 4 2015, 06:23 AM) *
The VERY FACT that 9/11 IMPACTS were caught on camera has always pestered me. HOW CONVENIENT to have someone right THERE, with a camera, to catch it all on film! I mean, the camera is TRAINED on the WTC when the impacts occur! THINK! The possibility of such a coincidence is ridiculous!



BTW.......there have been numerous posts, asking about the transponder.....and the difficulty in finding an aircraft who stopped squawking his assigned code. The code is assigned automatically when an aircraft files a flight plan and the system accepts the flight. When the plane departs, at about 100' altitude, the "data tag" automatically acquires the radar return and the flight proceeds with a data tag that shows the call sign, and altitude readout. The code is NOT shown on radar, just the relevant data. The code is on the flight data strip ( a piece of paper) the controller has as a helper to keep track of his route. When the transponder is turned off, the data tag disappears but the aircraft still gives off a raw radar return. I KNOW the ATC specialists that day did NOT lose the planes. NO FREAKIN' WAY! If a controller is busy and he needs an extra set of eyes (to keep watch on one who stops squawking), he just yells for a vector man and someone comes immediately to assist. Planes do NOT GET LOST!
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QUOTE (excontroller @ Apr 4 2015, 06:23 AM) *
The VERY FACT that 9/11 IMPACTS were caught on camera has always pestered me. HOW CONVENIENT to have someone right THERE, with a camera, to catch it all on film! I mean, the camera is TRAINED on the WTC when the impacts occur! THINK! The possibility of such a coincidence is ridiculous!


I know that most of the available Naudet "Firemen Films" have been clipped and edited to shut out the discredited notion that the camera man could actually have gotten that shot.

The full version which was first circulated and someone here might have, shows that the camera is focused on the firemen when suddenly they look up. Presumably they're looking up, because they've just heard the noise of an aircraft passing overhead.

I've written this several times on this site, last time out someone thought I was grasping at straws, you be the judge.

Our Rob has the raids data that says that aircraft was moving at supersonic speed when it passed over Lispenard street, which is about 1700 feet from the north tower.

Now start your mental clocks. When the aircraft passes over Lispenard street at over 600 feet per second, the firemen on the street can't hear it. This is because it's over 2,000 feet up. So the sound won't reach them for about 3 seconds. During that time, while the sound is traveling down to them, the aircraft will advance 1800 feet and crash while they're looking up, with the camera fixed on them.

Okay, so let's try putting the aircraft at 1000 feet. At that height the sound reaches them in approximately 2.5 seconds. With the aircraft at only 3 seconds from impact, there's still no time for the camera to refocus on the north tower.

But, if you get to see the original film released, the camera first focuses on the firemen looking up, then it swings south and pans and then zooms in to focus on the north tower and does all of this before the plane hits. So, given the speed and height of the aircraft, the speed of sound and the time to impact from Lispenard street, it just isn't possible for that film to have actually been shot. The aircraft would have had to have slowed and waited to give the cameraman enough time to focus.
Obviously that's not possible.

On top of which is the fact that there are other ways to debunk that film, but they aren't needed past this one.


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