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Nov 26 2006, 05:06 AM
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Polymeta.com search Sibel Edmonds bradblog Group: Library team Posts: 1,696 Joined: 15-October 06 Member No.: 77 |
Anyone able to tell from these FEMA shots about the airplane the engine came from?
hi res versions of the pics below: http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5473.jpg archive http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5474.jpg archive (IMG:http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/low/5473.jpg) (IMG:http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/low/5474.jpg) |
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Jan 2 2007, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 1 2007, 08:00 PM) Dear Muhammadcolumbo, I must confess that I'm pretty much "burned out" with this 9-11 stuff. If all of my own personal 9-11 Truth involvement has taught me anything - it is this. The United States of America, its Government officials, its Corporate/Business leaders along with vast segments of the general US populace have "lost their souls" - or perhaps better yet, have "sold their souls" (and are 'living happily ever after in this lifetime of theirs on the dividends of that sale). Hello Tocarm, I understand your point, things are very bad, many lies, worst propheties, ... Ok for all of that. But if I, or any of us here, begin to focus on this kind of ideas, anybody he can be, he is lost, he is ill, and he is dying. That's not a solution. I made my own way: - I'll do my best, but not more than can I do. - I'll be patient, but I'll not stop working. - I'll focus on facts, on studying each subject up to the last detail. - I'll remain sincere in what I do. - I'll not think negative. - I'll not expect to have things perfect. Doing that, I can continue the work. QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 1 2007, 08:00 PM) The many religious prophecies I know of all indicate this USA nation is coming under God's Divine Justice (or 'wrath' if you prefer - as in 'chastisement'). Excuse me, but this is a little bit negative thinking. Let's leave it aside for other. Fur us, lut's focus on facts. Now, for the RB211. I looked for photos. But got only outside pictures, some know maintenance manual drawings, ... Finally nothing new. All arguments trying to justify the presence of a 757 focus on the type of holes, the number of holes, broken smashed debris, ... But many engines may have this kind of fuel nozzle entry holes, if the debris is smashed it's not more reliable, ... Sure, a final decision can be done by serial numbers analyse. But this has not been done. Officials wanted to hide these information. So we need an other solution! Most of the time it's possible to identify objects by measuring the ratios of the same dimensions on similar images. So I did that for the RB211. Here are the drawings. Measurements are made by autocad, so they are precise. For better precision download the images and chek them yourself. (IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/RB211_Measurements-Debris.jpg) Here the averages ratios are as follow: Angular distances: ((3.69+3.34+3.24+2.94)/4)/((0.89+0.93+1.13+1.02)/4)=3.327 Linear distances: 18.05/2.26=7.986 (IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/RB211_Measurements-Dwg1.jpg) Angular distances: ((7.33+7.53+6.93)/3)/((4.52+5.04)/2)=1.519 Linear distances: 9.56/1.78=5.371 (IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/RB211_Measurements-Dwg2.jpg) Angular distances: ((8.22+8.47+8.56+7.37)/4)/((3.7+3.66+3.8)/3)=2.192 Linear distances: 12,28/4,59=2.675 There is a big difference in linear distances. From 7.986 to 5.371 or 2.675. As we have only one reference, let's say it's not enough precise. But for angular measurements we have several dimensions and averaging must give some better precision. But we still have big differences: From 3.327 to 1.519 or 2.192 So we can state that the debris is not the same part as in the maintenance manuals. May be some images are not enough precise. Yes it's possible. That's why I asked to have more picture, more precision on that part. We must check that dimensions ratio to be sure that the debris is of an RB211 or not. The government refuses to do it, we will do it! Quitely but surely! That's the same work for the landing arm debris which is not from a 757: (IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/Trains.jpg) Here the ratios are : For B757: 2.94/1.2=2.45 For the debris: 2.51/1.3=1.93 Conclusion: The debris is not from a 757. I think the debris are from a 737-400! But that must be checked. So I need more pictures of the same parts of a 737-400. This post has been edited by muhammadcolumbo: Jan 2 2007, 06:40 PM |
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waterdancer Engine Experts? Nov 26 2006, 05:06 AM
waterdancer Airplane part?
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/p... Nov 26 2006, 05:29 AM
Merc GE engine components from WTC planes. Dec 8 2006, 10:26 PM
tocarm CF-6 engine. Powers 767s.
Each engine type has it... Dec 15 2006, 11:48 AM
Sanders What is that, the Pennsylvania site? Dec 15 2006, 12:04 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (tocarm @ Dec 15 2006, 10:48 AM)CF-6 en... Dec 15 2006, 02:48 PM
tocarm Dear Rob (Co-founder of Pilotsfor911truth.org),
A... Dec 15 2006, 07:02 PM
waterdancer QUOTE (Sanders @ Dec 15 2006, 04:04 PM)What i... Dec 15 2006, 11:20 PM
johndoeX tocarm.. you really need to call me. Please call a... Dec 15 2006, 11:36 PM
tocarm Dear Rob,
You wanted engine photos and engine mai... Dec 16 2006, 10:48 AM
johndoeX An excerpt from that site...
QUOTE The plane debr... Dec 16 2006, 03:58 PM
tocarm Dear Rob,
You asked for engine photos. Please uti... Dec 17 2006, 12:51 AM
johndoeX Wait a minute.. are you saying that AA77, N644AA, ... Dec 17 2006, 01:12 AM
johndoeX As i said. .i would like to get ahold of a JT8D-9A... Dec 17 2006, 01:15 AM
tocarm Dear Rob,
JT8-D pictures/illustrations? Nah, I ca... Dec 17 2006, 11:08 AM
johndoeX QUOTE (tocarm @ Dec 17 2006, 10:08 AM)Everybo... Dec 17 2006, 12:30 PM
driver QUOTE (tocarm @ Dec 17 2006, 04:51 AM)The typ... Dec 17 2006, 06:03 PM
driver http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NN...=0... Dec 17 2006, 06:05 PM
driver You can click on a link to a reported 2001 large p... Dec 17 2006, 06:09 PM
driver tocarm,
Keep an eye out for this future AD. I am ... Dec 17 2006, 06:20 PM
johndoeX Thanks for that article driver....
Im sure that t... Dec 17 2006, 06:55 PM
Merc Hey Tocarm!
Good to see you here finally... Dec 18 2006, 09:55 PM
tocarm Dear Driver,
Thanks for reading my posting(s). As... Dec 19 2006, 08:40 PM
tocarm Hi Merc!
It's kinda NICE to have a 9-11 w... Dec 19 2006, 08:54 PM
johndoeX Great post Joe... good to have you aboard...
Good... Dec 19 2006, 08:56 PM
driver QUOTE I hope people realize that when they make a ... Dec 19 2006, 10:32 PM
tocarm Dear Driver,
Regarding 'accuracy'...
How... Dec 20 2006, 12:40 PM
bill tocarm
that is thee best explaination of the even... Dec 20 2006, 02:01 PM
tocarm Dear Bill,
It's the Christian religous season... Dec 20 2006, 06:35 PM
bill I had not seen this before
but is corroberates y... Dec 21 2006, 10:12 AM
tocarm Dear Bill,
Thanks for reading my posts - and than... Dec 21 2006, 11:36 AM
UnderTow WoW, just got done reading your posts in here Toca... Dec 21 2006, 12:06 PM
bill QUOTE (tocarm @ Dec 21 2006, 03:36 PM)Dear Bi... Dec 22 2006, 09:56 AM
tocarm Dear Undertow,
I suppose (if you wanted to) you c... Dec 22 2006, 07:32 PM
waterdancer Just in case anyone is interested, the two New Yor... Dec 24 2006, 12:05 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (waterdancer @ Dec 24 2006, 11:05 AM)Ju... Dec 24 2006, 12:09 PM
tocarm Dear Rob,
Looks 'GE' to me -- the center ... Dec 25 2006, 10:38 AM
Wilbert N591UA: PW2040
N644AA: RB.211 SERIES
http://regis... Dec 27 2006, 06:10 PM
Cary Welcome to the forum Wilbert. Your link requires ... Dec 27 2006, 07:24 PM
skywatcher So can you conclude from the above that none of th... Dec 28 2006, 10:32 PM
skywatcher I cannot reconcile Waterdancer's info from NTS... Dec 28 2006, 11:55 PM
tocarm Dear Rob,
Regarding your concern that the engine ... Dec 29 2006, 11:45 AM
waterdancer QUOTE (skywatcher @ Dec 29 2006, 03:55 AM) I ... Dec 30 2006, 11:43 AM
johndoeX QUOTE (tocarm @ Dec 29 2006, 10:45 AM)Dear Ro... Dec 30 2006, 12:14 PM
tocarm Dear Rob,
Gotta clean up a little confusion here.... Dec 30 2006, 07:44 PM
muhammadcolumbo tocarm,
I am looking to identify the combustion c... Dec 30 2006, 07:46 PM
tocarm The photos of engine wreckage allegedly found at t... Dec 30 2006, 09:21 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (tocarm @ Dec 30 2006, 06:44 PM)Dear Ro... Dec 30 2006, 10:47 PM
waterdancer A somewhat bigger version of that same image is in... Dec 31 2006, 02:24 AM
skywatcher I don't want to confuse matters, but I want to... Dec 31 2006, 03:13 AM
waterdancer Skywatcher, it's not official, but I did find ... Dec 31 2006, 04:09 AM
tocarm Now I want for all of you to EXCUSE ME for posting... Dec 31 2006, 12:06 PM
muhammadcolumbo QUOTE (tocarm @ Dec 30 2006, 08:21 PM)The pho... Dec 31 2006, 06:16 PM
tocarm Dear Muhammadcolumbo,
I must confess that I'm... Jan 1 2007, 09:00 PM
johndoeX RE: Engine Experts? Jan 2 2007, 07:00 PM
tocarm Dear MuhammedColumbo,
Alright...alright...let us ... Jan 2 2007, 07:40 PM
UnderTow I am in idiot at the moment becuase I don't ge... Jan 2 2007, 08:23 PM
tocarm Dear Undertow;
MuhammedColumbo is working on his ... Jan 2 2007, 08:48 PM
UnderTow No need to type beyond the obvious, I just wasn... Jan 2 2007, 09:14 PM
tocarm Dear Undertow,
Please understand that in no way I... Jan 2 2007, 09:39 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 2 2007, 06:40 PM)Dear Muh... Jan 2 2007, 09:56 PM
tocarm Dear Rob,
I hope you do understand that I dont... Jan 2 2007, 11:49 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 2 2007, 10:49 PM)I hope y... Jan 3 2007, 12:43 AM
tocarm 9-11 & The Pentagon
FACT: Some sort of 'f... Jan 3 2007, 12:54 AM
Cary QUOTE Shoot...why all of this 'Cloak & Dag... Jan 3 2007, 01:16 AM
tocarm Dear Cary,
Somebody fired off several psychology ... Jan 3 2007, 02:07 AM
muhammadcolumbo QUOTE (johndoeX @ Jan 2 2007, 06:00 PM)
johnd... Jan 3 2007, 01:36 PM
muhammadcolumbo QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 2 2007, 06:40 PM)Dear Muh... Jan 3 2007, 02:12 PM
muhammadcolumbo QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 3 2007, 01:07 AM)Dear Car... Jan 3 2007, 03:15 PM
tocarm Dear MuhammedColumbo,
Okay, so you're not an ... Jan 3 2007, 03:53 PM
UnderTow You guys are KILLING this thread...... Jan 3 2007, 03:54 PM
tocarm "Killing the thread..." Okay, let's ... Jan 3 2007, 05:42 PM
muhammadcolumbo tocarm,
Ok, I saw both web pages. But really I th... Jan 3 2007, 06:59 PM
johndoeX In order to identify those parts.. i think the fir... Jan 3 2007, 07:29 PM
tocarm I agree with Rob. This thread is a 'Dead End... Jan 3 2007, 08:25 PM
tocarm Now I got MY picture. See?
http://911research.wtc... Jan 4 2007, 11:59 AM
muhammadcolumbo QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 4 2007, 10:59 AM)...the w... Jan 4 2007, 03:37 PM
tocarm Dear MuhammedColumbo,
Ya know, I gotta show you a... Jan 5 2007, 11:07 AM
muhammadcolumbo QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 5 2007, 10:07 AM)I want f... Jan 5 2007, 02:17 PM
tocarm Sorry MuhammedColumbo...but I simply do not 'b... Jan 6 2007, 10:47 AM
johndoeX QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 6 2007, 09:47 AM)P.S. fin... Jan 6 2007, 11:16 AM
muhammadcolumbo tocarm,
Your comments are right and justified. Bu... Jan 6 2007, 11:49 AM
tocarm I know how 'near & dear' your attachme... Jan 6 2007, 12:08 PM
muhammadcolumbo QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 6 2007, 11:08 AM)I know h... Jan 6 2007, 03:03 PM
tocarm Dear MuhammedColumbo,
Ya gotta understand somethi... Jan 6 2007, 07:59 PM
Cary I don't understand all the details, but you... Jan 6 2007, 09:10 PM
tocarm Dear MuhammedColumbo,
Now then - BACK TO THE PENT... Jan 7 2007, 11:13 AM
muhammadcolumbo At first, my precedent posts has been removed, era... Jan 7 2007, 02:32 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (muhammadcolumbo @ Jan 7 2007, 01:32 PM... Jan 7 2007, 02:50 PM
muhammadcolumbo QUOTE (johndoeX @ Jan 7 2007, 01:50 PM)QUOTE ... Jan 7 2007, 03:47 PM
johndoeX Considering im working 16 hours a day on my resear... Jan 7 2007, 04:01 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (muhammadcolumbo @ Jan 7 2007, 01:32 PM... Jan 7 2007, 04:08 PM
muhammadcolumbo johndoeX,
When I told 100 eyewitnesses, I do not ... Jan 7 2007, 06:51 PM
tocarm Dear MuhammedColumbo,
It's virtually been YEA... Jan 7 2007, 07:14 PM
tocarm Dear MuhammedColumbo,
Amongst the many occupation... Jan 7 2007, 11:05 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (muhammadcolumbo @ Jan 7 2007, 05:51 PM... Jan 8 2007, 12:00 AM
johndoeX QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 7 2007, 10:05 PM)With the... Jan 8 2007, 12:08 AM
johndoeX Joe, do you have that video of the Continental con... Jan 8 2007, 12:16 AM
tocarm Dear Rob,
About that contract Mx getting sucked i... Jan 8 2007, 01:16 AM
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