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Engine Experts?, hi res. FEMA photos

waterdancer
post Nov 26 2006, 05:06 AM
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Anyone able to tell from these FEMA shots about the airplane the engine came from?

hi res versions of the pics below:

http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5473.jpg archive
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5474.jpg archive

(IMG:http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/low/5473.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/low/5474.jpg)
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muhammadcolumbo
post Jan 4 2007, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (tocarm @ Jan 4 2007, 10:59 AM)
...the windows to the LEFT and to the RIGHT of the place where the fuselage of a US Commerical Air Carrier which ('they' tell us) slammed into and penetrated the Pentagon's walls still show their panes of glass intact.

tocarm,

I am not here to criticise anybody. But I just show my own invstigation. I imagine only the fuselage and heavy parts entering the building. Some parts may remain outside, but all parts must leave some traces on the facade. Don't forget, the concrete is only in the columns, remaining parts are not reinfoced conrete. And at the two lower floors, there is no internal walls. Heavy parts will reach C ring wall.

Here is the explanation of civil jetlinerin the Pentagon. You can find very useful and most precise information in the power point presentation on my web page http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/indexe.htm

But here are some picture:
The entry hole and its right side. The entry holespans from column 13 to C15. The rightmost damaged column is the number 20. C18 is very few damaged. That's due to the rotation of the plane at impact. The red aircraft is a scaled 737-400 to the real scale. For another picture see
Right facade image on 911research.com
(IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/Pentagon_737-400_Entry.jpg)

The entry hole and its right side. You can see here that all columns from 8 to 13 are damaged, C9 is buckled, C10 to C13 completely removed.
(IMG:http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/docs/morris1.jpg)

Here I added the B737-400 on the ASCE construction which presents a 757-200 (white plane silhouette) on undamaged columns C21 and C22.
(IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/Pentagon_737_Entry.jpg)

This is a 3D construction of the Pentagon with the plane aligned to the entry hole along an angle of 52° from the facade. Its a flat view from behind the plane.
(IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/Pentagon_Approach-737.jpg)

Here you can see the aerial view of the approaching 737-400 and follow the damages on the facade.
(IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/Pentagon_737_Generator.JPG)

Here is the impact simulation of the plane entering the building and some internal details.
(IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/Pentagon_737.jpg)

Here you can find the broken light poles on the path of a 737-400
(IMG:http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/Pentagon_737_Lights.JPG)

And here you can find the plane position on the fist released image in the pack of 5 images.
http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/737_Scaling_image1.jpg

More details see My Webpage

If you have any question, feel free to ask. I am ready to reconsider all these explanations.
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- - johndoeX   tocarm.. you really need to call me. Please call a...   Dec 15 2006, 11:36 PM
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