The Gate 26/32 question, Where did AA 11 departure? Options

[woody]

Some of you may know that there are conflicting accounts regarding the departure gate of AA 11. Some sources say it was Gate 26, some say Gate 32.

I gathered the evidence here (my first 9/11 piece):

http://de.geocities.com/woody_box2000/TwinFlight.html

The 9/11 Commission Report was published half a year later and presented - in my eyes - confirmation for the oddities at Logan Airport. F.I. in the footnotes we learn that some of the passengers of Flight 11 boarded the plane after the push-back! Can any aviation expert tell me how this is possible? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

9. See TSA report, "Selectee Status of September 11th Hijackers," undated. For boarding and seating information, see AAL record, SABRE information on Flight 11, Sept. 11, 2001.These boarding times from the American system are approximate only; for Flight 11, they indicated that some passengers "boarded" after the aircraft had pushed back from the gate. See AAL response to the Commission's February 3, 2004, requests, Mar. 15, 2004.

Chapter I, note 9

But there's more, even better:

6. For Flight 11, two checkpoints provided access to the gate. The second was opened at 7:15 A.M. The FAA conducted many screener evaluations between September 11, 1999, and September 11, 2001.At the primary checkpoints, in aggregate, screeners met or exceeded the average for overall, physical search, and X-ray detection, while falling below the norm for metal detection. No FAA Special Assessments (by "red teams") were done at Logan security checkpoints during the two years prior to September 11, 2001. See FAA briefing materials, "Assessment and Testing Data for BOS, EWR, and IAD," Oct. 24, 2001.

Chapter I, Note 6

I was wondering why two checkpoints provide access to one gate. I always thought one checkpoint provides access to multiple gates.

Loose Change member JackD has provided me with a nice map of the AA Terminal at Logan:

http://i.elias-savion.com/11/59/en-us/docu...boston_b_aa.pdf

Obviously, there is only one security checkpoint for Gate 32 (the gate favoured by the 9/11 Commission). But - and this is interesting - Gate 26 has to be entered through a different checkpoint.

Is that what the 9/11 Commission means? One checkpoint for each gate? But why don't they mention gate 26, and which of the planes was Flight 11, anyway?

Do multiple checkpoints for one gate make sense at all?

Anyone here familiar with Logan Airport?

[amazed!]

Sorry if I missed it Woody, but is Sorensen still alive?

Having read that story about swapping flights, it almost sounds like the whole thing is contrived, though certainly it's plausible.

The plot thickens.... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

Thanks for all your effort.

[elreb]

Having read that story about swapping flights, it almost sounds like the whole thing is contrived...

My “BTS” is still working…post #33 shows no flight on 09/04/2001…a Tuesday…

A gate reader means nothing without a connection to the airframe in question

Where is the data to “Actual Departure Time”?

Sorry but until I see better information…I agree with “Amazed” on the contrived possibility…

[Sergio]

My “BTS” is still working…post #33 shows no flight on 09/04/2001…a Tuesday…

Hi elreb,
actually Flight 11 appears as a regular flight between BOS and LAX also on Tuesdays. I pasted below some data from BTS related to all Tuesdays since July 3rd to September 4, 2001.
The BTS system returns "UNKNOW" along with the usual 00:00 data for September 4 and July 10, 2001. Also, there are no data at all available for August 7, 2001 (I created the row because the system does not return anything at all for that date). In all other instances AA-11 appears to have flown on all Tuesdays before 9/11. I don't think we can conclude that AA-11 was not scheduled on Tuesdays.

The table is pretty messed up, I wasn't able to paste the HTML code, sorry for this.


Detailed Statistics Departures
Airport: Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH - Logan International (BOS)
Airline: American Airlines (AA)

Carrier Code Date (MM/DD/YYYY) Flight Number Tail Number Destination Airport Scheduled Departure Time Actual Departure Time Scheduled Elapsed Time (Minutes) Actual Elapsed Time (Minutes) Departure Delay (Minutes) Wheels-off Time Taxi-out Time (Minutes) Delay Carrier (Minutes) Delay Weather (Minutes) Delay National Aviation System (Minutes) Delay Security (Minutes) Delay Late Aircraft Arrival (Minutes)
AA 07/03/2001 11 N306AA LAX 07:45 07:52 366 350 7 08:04 12 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 07/10/2001 11 UNKNOW LAX 07:45 00:00 366 0 0 00:00 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 07/17/2001 11 N301AA LAX 07:45 07:59 366 369 14 08:20 21 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 07/24/2001 11 N303AA LAX 07:45 07:49 366 367 4 08:11 22 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 07/31/2001 11 N305AA LAX 07:45 08:09 366 351 24 08:25 16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 08/07/2001 11 N/A LAX N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 08/14/2001 11 N305AA LAX 07:45 07:41 366 378 -4 07:57 16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 08/21/2001 11 N305AA LAX 07:45 07:46 366 361 1 08:09 23 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 08/28/2001 11 N321AA LAX 07:45 07:44 366 356 -1 07:56 12 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
AA 09/04/2001 11 UNKNOW LAX 07:45 00:00 366 0 0 00:00 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

SOURCE: Bureau of Transportation Statistics