The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Merged Thread, Episodes 7-9 Options

[paranoia]

TMWKK, The Final Chapter, ep.1 The Smoking Gun, seg.3

hey man im still watching the series (thanks a bunch btw), but i couldnt get any sound on this one. i thought u might want to know.

[paranoia]

TMWKK, The Final Chapter, ep.1 The Smoking Gun, seg.5

no sound on this one either. darn!


edit:
a whole bunch in a row after this one dont have any sound either, but im not sure if its my pc or the vidz themselves. please forgive me if its my comp, but i wont know until i shut it on/off/on again.
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This post has been edited by paranoia: Jan 19 2007, 06:04 AM

[Method]

"The Men Who Killed Kennedy: The Final Chapter" - Episodes 7-9


All three of these episodes of this History Channel documentary are banned from further television broadcast and commerical distribution in the United States. I've been trying to quite some time to get my hands on some copies of The Final Chapter and a friend of mine at another forum I frequent came across these when he was doing some research into JFK. I would recommend watching these A.S.A.P. if you have any interest in the Kennedy assissination or the Warren Commission because who knows how much longer these will be up before YouTube censors them.

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[Method]

no sound on this one either. darn!


edit:
a whole bunch in a row after this one dont have any sound either, but im not sure if its my pc or the vidz themselves. please forgive me if its my comp, but i wont know until i shut it on/off/on again.
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I just checked the one's you mentioned and I'm getting sound. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

[Cary]

I finally finished watching all of them yesterday. Outstanding series. Thanks Method.

[Method]

I finally finished watching all of them yesterday. Outstanding series. Thanks Method.

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FM258 brought them to my attention. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

[gideon524]

For all I learned about JFK, it was his driver William Greer,
who shot him.

(Greer turned around and shot him dirctly in the forehead,
and Jackie tried to escape from Greer over the trunk, which can be
seen in the Zapruder film.)

Is this mentioned in this series or is there something new?

Carl

Carl,

Of all the the stuff I've seen on JFK, I just learned about the driver a few months ago since Oliver Stone's movie, JFK, crops the driver out of the fatal head shot frame. It's been a while since I've watched The Men Who Killed Kennedy so I can't remember if the driver is ever mentioned but I'd say "no" since I don't ever remember him being brought to my attention until just a few months ago.

[JackD]

Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

The case was so obvious, that Lyndon Johnson had the Continental refurbished a couple of days later. I mean, we all saw Oswald's picture in the papers in the mugshot.
What more did redblooded americans need to know?

we were presented with the choices. and there was but one:
Oswald acted alone.


What's all the conspiracy talk about?

(wink)

This post has been edited by JackD: Jan 19 2007, 08:45 PM

[jo56]

Just finished watching the whole series. I had heard some of the theories, but came away with a lot of new names as part of the conspiracy.

This is a great series, and believeable!

It's just hideous what these cowards have done, and for so long.

Thx Method, for posting these. New material for me.

[Method]

Just finished watching the whole series. I had heard some of the theories, but came away with a lot of new names as part of the conspiracy.

This is a great series, and believeable!

It's just hideous what these cowards have done, and for so long.

Thx Method, for posting these. New material for me.

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[Carl Bank]

Carl,

Of all the the stuff I've seen on JFK, I just learned about the driver a few months ago since Oliver Stone's movie, JFK, crops the driver out of the fatal head shot frame.  It's been a while since I've watched The Men Who Killed Kennedy so I can't remember if the driver is ever mentioned but I'd say "no" since I don't ever remember him being brought to my attention until just a few months ago.

Here is the theory by the godfather of the truth movement, William Cooper,
which names Greer as the one who shot JFK:

Google Video - William Cooper: JFK Assassin Unmasked

Carl

[Carl Bank]

Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

The case was so obvious, that Lyndon Johnson had the Continental refurbished a couple of days later.  I mean, we all saw Oswald's picture in the papers in the mugshot.
What more did redblooded americans need to know?

we were presented with the choices. and there was but one:
Oswald acted alone.


What's all the conspiracy talk about?

(wink)

Tell me, what Oswalds benefits were. And take this in the consideration:
JFK was about to create a US-currency that is a real US-currency and
isn't borrowed by the Federal Reserve anymore. This might give you a hint
of the ones who really benefitted of the assasination.
And remember Lincoln and what he wanted to do in a similar way.


If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and acts like a duck,
it's no conspiracy theory when one assumes that it is an animal from the
family of the antinae, says: Carl

This post has been edited by Carl Bank: Jan 20 2007, 02:05 PM

[Carl Bank]

I've only read it before, that William Greer, the driver of the
car in which JFK was assasinated, shot him directly in his face.

Until today, the only kind of evidence for me for that, was that
Jackie was trying to crawl away from the driver over the trunk.
What woman would crawl on a trunk of a moving car for any reason whatsoever?

I read that there was some japanese analysis of the Zapruder flick,
but never saw it. Here is the presentation by William Cooper now, that
definetely and cristal clear shows Greer shooting Kennedy:



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=11...0186205666634&q

source: educate-yourselve.org

[Wingmaster05]

The japanese edition was the most visible, you get the best shot at it in that one. But I didn't think it was clear in any sense of the word. Without a person narrating it, and showing it 5+ times to engrain the idea, it becomes a lot more obtuse as to what happened. I can barely see the driver move to look at the president, and i think i see his arm parallel to the ground, yet when i look even closer (at frame 313) it appears as though his arm has magically disappeared and the background curb of the road is exactly where the arm 'was'. :ph43r:

People say its been manipulated, and no wonder, the film wasnt released into the public eye for about 7 years after the incident.


More to my point, what does this prove except to ourselves that Greer shot the president? AFAIK you can't take this to court and set the record books straight, it's too inconclusive (despite what Cooper says). Most of us here already knew it was CIA anti-Castro operatives and the like involved in the assassination, Greer was just another minion with the gun. LET"S GET THE PLANNERS OF THE ASSASSINATION, SHALL WE?


I had never heard much of anything on robert groden either. I'm glad he updated us all on his position...

I still think y'all should watch it despite my pessimistic tone. Cooper says some interesting things and his rant against Groden is worth noting.

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This post has been edited by Wingmaster05: Oct 8 2007, 02:25 PM

[KILL YOUR TV!]

I took a look at this Greer thing earlier in the year and I must say it's very convincing. Greer has the best shot - for everyone else it's a moving target. It makes a lot of sense. You an also see that Greer looks back after the first shot, sees that JFK is wounded but still alive and then finishes the job. I believe that Greer was the Plan B in the whole operation.

Interesting to note that Stone's "JFK" and other films which push the Grassy Knoll Theory make us look at Kennedy's head moving "back and to the left". They take the same Zapruder footage and zoom in on the left half of the film, conveniently pushing Greer's actions out of frame. see:

( warning: graphic )



Strange how "Conspiracy Theories" can be forged to completely distract you from the real "smoking gun".

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EDIT: though I do believe it was Greer, I don't believe it is a gun that we see ( highlighted in the Japanese study ) - rather it is a light reflection of his passenger's head. I believe the gun was hidden from view.

This post has been edited by KILL YOUR TV!: Oct 9 2007, 05:48 PM

[lunk]

I don't remember where I was at the time,
because I was born after this event, but
from my reading of this thread, Greer was
there to administer the coup de grace.

imo, lunk

[maturin42]

I've only read it before, that William Greer, the driver of the
car in which JFK was assasinated, shot him directly in his face.

Until today, the only kind of evidence for me for that, was that
Jackie was trying to crawl away from the driver over the trunk.
What woman would crawl on a trunk of a moving car for any reason whatsoever?

I have always thought that Jackie was trying to retrieve a piece of his skull or scalp or brain from the trunk of the car. She appears to be trying to reach something, not trying to get away.

I would like to see the film after it was subjected to enhancement. It is far too fuzzy to be conclusive in all the forms I have seen it.

[lunk]

I would like to see the film after it was subjected to enhancement. It is far too fuzzy to be conclusive in all the forms I have seen it.

It's a heck of a lot clearer than
the single digit pentagron frames!

imo, lunk

[FM258]

JHC Greer did NOT shoot Kennedy, this is complete horseshit.

This 'evidence' is not only dubious, its non existent.

Head shot came from the front right of JFK.

[FM258]

I have a good friend who is totally into all this stuff...gets excited about every damn theory ever proposed....but does very little critical thinking of his own and I find myself reigning him in....he is hugely into AJ and talks alot about aliens... sh*t is bad folks, but its not as bad as some will have you think...the financial market IMO is the biggest thing we have to worry about, not aliens, not nucular war, not terrists...he is actually the one who first showed this 'proof' to me a few weeks ago.

A. No mussle flash
B. No recoil....I dare any of you guys to fire a .38+ cal handgun with no recoil.


Please do not take this 'disinfo' seriously.... if he did shoot JFK, do you really think Jackie would send him a card of thanks after the funeral??


Dont fall victim to this madness.
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