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The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Merged Thread, Episodes 7-9

rob balsamo
post Oct 26 2010, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (7forever @ Oct 26 2010, 04:33 PM) *
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THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.


The above gif is misleading as it shows a recoil, but there was no recoil. The gif loops.

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The driver killed Kennedy and the Nix film provides conclusive proof to this inevitable truth.


You can clearly see the "gun" is actually the sun reflecting off the guys head in the passenger seat.

Same for the above gif.

Sorry, I don't think your pictures prove Greer shot Kennedy.
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post Oct 26 2010, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2010, 02:22 PM) *
The above gif is misleading as it shows a recoil, but there was no recoil. The gif loops.



You can clearly see the "gun" is actually the sun reflecting off the guys head in the passenger seat.

Same for the above gif.

Sorry, I don't think your pictures prove Greer shot Kennedy.


Thanks Rob.
The best explanation i've "heard", was a deaf man, who witnessed somebody shooting a gun, from near a railway, towards JFK.

But no one could communicate with him, at that time.

i wasn't in this world, back then, though.
(but i was delivered, soon after)
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post Oct 27 2010, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2010, 04:22 PM) *
The above gif is misleading as it shows a recoil, but there was no recoil. The gif loops.



You can clearly see the "gun" is actually the sun reflecting off the gu
ys head in the passenger seat.

Same for the above gif.

Sorry, I don't think your pictures prove Greer shot Kennedy.


The fake reflection over Roy's head is fake.
Mary took her pic at zframe 309 and in it, the fake blob of white is entirely missing from Roy's head because it was added during alteration to cover the gun over Greer's shoulder. Connally's reflection is accurately depicted in both the pic and film for authenticity.(IMG:http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/WallPaint615.jpg)
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The fake reflection was NOT added to the nix or muchmore films.

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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2010, 04:22 PM) *
The above gif is misleading as it shows a recoil, but there was no recoil. The gif loops.



You can clearly see the "gun" is actually the sun reflecting off the guys head in the passenger seat.

Same for the above gif.

Sorry, I don't think your pictures prove Greer shot Kennedy.


There is nothing misleading or remotely debatable about Greer's left arm jerking over his right shoulder in the nix film. That fact proves the zapruder film was altered to hide those movements which confirm Greer was jfk's real assassin. The fake grey streak was added to cover Greer's arm movements when he shot Kennedy.
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Interesting reply on another forum

Has anyone tried telling this to there skeptic family or friends. at first thought everyone thought I was real life trollin them hard, but once I showed them this post they are like "WTF"

I figure no media network is allowed to talk about this material, but can't 4chan or something get this spread on the internet.

I want to post it on my facebook wall but I feel FED's would come knocking (yes just in case paranoid)
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post Oct 28 2010, 08:56 AM
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The average person who's being honest will admit they clearly see Greer's left arm crossing over his right shoulder in the Nix film. That is conclusive evidence the Zfilm was altered to hide jfk's real assassin. This case is closed, it's just a matter of getting my work out there in front of millions of people.
Greer's left arm goes over right shoulder in unison with headshot.
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The grey streak was added @ alteration...simple as that.
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Connally saw Greer shoot jfk

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized Greer shot Kennedy.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.
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All these photos and vids show the same thing.
The "gun in Greer's hand" is the sun reflecting
off of Connaly's slicked up hair.

We all know Kennedy was and inside job, but
in my opinion, Cooper proves nothing here and
actually discredits himself by selling this.

Watch Connaly's hair during all the vids and
photo's. (front seat passenger).
No gun, just Dapper Dan.
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post Nov 6 2010, 03:48 PM
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Aerohead, I'm with forever7 with the assumption, greer shot the fatal shot.

Not because of the reflection on the hair that can be easily mistaken for a gun, but because of
Jackie's reaction. I don't know the exact details about all of the ckains were made who and why shot JFK from where, but I know one thing for certain: Women do not climb on the trunk of a moving car
for whatever reason. Especially, if the reason is, that someone shoots at the car. ESPECIALLY not in that
case, but this is no point, because, women won't do such things anyway. Women always seek security,
and the natural instinct reaction of a women is to duck behind the drivers seat in the given scenario.
She obviously tried to escape from someone IN the car in front of her and took the risk to fall of
the moving vehicle - wich takes an extremely dangerous situation INSIDE the car for women to do such thing - And she knew, that this seldom Licoln convertible had "suicide doors" that make an escape by rolling out of the open door impossible. Come on, don't you all see that point?
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post Nov 6 2010, 05:20 PM
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I think you guys are seeing what you want to see and
not what is there. Its crystal clear to me. Im not saying Greer
didnt shoot him, im saying these vids and pics dont show
it at all to me. IMO, If he did shoot him, the gun was lower and
not in view, the "gun" here is Connaly's hair.
I still believe the fatal shot was from the Knoll, its consistent
with the movement of Kennedys head (back and to the left) from
a shot forward and to the right.
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post Nov 6 2010, 05:34 PM
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You are right, the "gun" is the reflection on the hair. True.
So the video doesn't show Greer shooting. True.
Fair point, well made. But this doesn't mean ,he isn't the most suspicious
of the 2 in the front due to the fact, that he turned around to the back half a second
before the shot. And if you don't adress Jakies gataway across the trunk,
I guess, you are more focussed on insisting to be right that on the little,
outdated ivestigation going on here.


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I had always assumed that Jackie jumped onto the hood at the sight of her husbands brains being splayed through his forehead. I don't know about you but I think any reaction to that horrific surreal sight would be unpredictable?
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As a 35 year-long JFK researcher I can assure you that this thread is either presented by a totally naive individual or to cast this Forum and the 911 Truth community in a negative [nutty conspiracy theory] light. Greer had no gun in his hand and fired no shots - this has been totally dismissed over and over....yet it keep popping up propped up, apparently, by those who wish to disguise, not reveal, the truth of the events of Dallas 11/22/63. In short it was a coup d'etat at the highest levels, involving several groups and involving many shooter teams in a crossfire. Oswald, the patsy who had long worked for CIA, Navy Intelligence, FBI and other intelligence entities had to be eliminated before he could defend himself. 911 could not have happened if Dallas had been resolved, but the powers that be [the victors of the coup] do not want the truth out...thus we got 911 and lots more......but this is a doctored video of a non-event and IMO the who idea was put out [as are many bogus 'theories' by the VERY propaganda apparatus that keeps the mythology of Dallas and 911 going - and prevents the truth from being told.
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Everyone needs to be aware that the Z film has been altered from the very beginning. It's a fake. Just like most the 911 videos appear to be. It's a long winded, multi part video on youtube breaking down all the Fakery. I think it's called the Zapruder Fakery. It is very informative. I to have followed the JFK thing for many years. I learned some really good stuff from it. If you are interested in JFK I highly recommend it.
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QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Nov 6 2010, 04:34 PM) *
You are right, the "gun" is the reflection on the hair. True.
So the video doesn't show Greer shooting. True.
Fair point, well made. But this doesn't mean ,he isn't the most suspicious
of the 2 in the front due to the fact, that he turned around to the back half a second
before the shot. And if you don't adress Jakies gataway across the trunk,
I guess, you are more focussed on insisting to be right that on the little,
outdated ivestigation going on here.


2€ct: carl


You are right, the "gun" is covered by fake the reflection on Roy's hair. True.
So the video does show Greer shooting. True. Real hair reflection do not recoil and separate from the heads they're attached to. Greer killed Kennedy beyond any doubt.
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QUOTE (nanothermite @ Nov 7 2010, 04:47 AM) *
As a 35 year-long JFK researcher I can assure you that this thread is either presented by a totally naive individual or to cast this Forum and the 911 Truth community in a negative [nutty conspiracy theory] light. Greer had no gun in his hand and fired no shots - this has been totally dismissed over and over....yet it keep popping up propped up, apparently, by those who wish to disguise, not reveal, the truth of the events of Dallas 11/22/63. In short it was a coup d'etat at the highest levels, involving several groups and involving many shooter teams in a crossfire. Oswald, the patsy who had long worked for CIA, Navy Intelligence, FBI and other intelligence entities had to be eliminated before he could defend himself. 911 could not have happened if Dallas had been resolved, but the powers that be [the victors of the coup] do not want the truth out...thus we got 911 and lots more......but this is a doctored video of a non-event and IMO the who idea was put out [as are many bogus 'theories' by the VERY propaganda apparatus that keeps the mythology of Dallas and 911 going - and prevents the truth from being told.


You have no idea what you're talking about. Greer obviously killing Kennedy was never debunked it was simply ignored and the blatanly altered zfilm was accepted as authentic. The new evidence which you simply ignore is Greer's left arm crossing in the nix film which proves the zfilm was altered to hide those movements which killed Kennedy.
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The altered zfilm and nix film mirror each other in that the timing is perfect for the headshot. His arm crossing in the nix film is timed perfect to the headshot as is the fake reflection of 312-313 causing the headshot.
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Beyond any and all doubt

What I know is my work has proven Greer's guilt far beyond any reasonable doubt. Any jury would choose this over any other theory because it makes sense while every other is either totally baseless or crumbles under scrutiny like the grassy knoll. I can't explain everything nor can any prosecutor or investigator.

There will always be unanswered questions and even some anomalies but the case against Greer makes sense and hangs together every step of the way. They did their best at that time to cover-up Greer shooting but the technology was so far from being capable of even doing a half assed job. The alteration to the film is a complete joke making it totally obvious when anyone decided to expose it.
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QUOTE (aerohead @ Nov 6 2010, 01:09 AM) *
All these photos and vids show the same thing.
The "gun in Greer's hand" is the sun reflecting
off of Connaly's slicked up hair.

We all know Kennedy was and inside job, but
in my opinion, Cooper proves nothing here and
actually discredits himself by selling this.

Watch Connaly's hair during all the vids and
photo's. (front seat passenger).
No gun, just Dapper Dan.


All these photos and vids show the same thing.
The "gun in Greer's hand" is being passed with his right to his left 4 seconds before he kills Kennedy.
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We all know Kennedy was and inside job and I proved it beyond any doubt with my grass roots research into this very easily exposed government cover-up.

Watch Connaly's hair during all the vids and
photo's, the fake white recoils, separates from Roy's head and the fake white is absent from Moorman's pic at 309, the nix and muchmore films. You have no idea what you're talking about which is typical.
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No fake white blob added to Mary's pic or the other two films taken from the south side.
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THERE IS NO OTHER SIDE TO THE TOP OF HEAD. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cleanup.gif)
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Greer changed story in the days after he killed Kennedy

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/59wit.htm
Agent Greer to the FBI 11/22/63: "Greer stated that he first heard what he thought was possibly a motorcycle backfire and glanced around and noticed that the President had evidently been hit [notice that, early on, Greer admits seeing JFK, which the Zapruder proves he did two times before the fatsal head shot occurred]. He thereafter got on the radio and communicated with the other vehicles, stating that they desired to get the President to the hospital immediately [in reality, Greer did not talk on the radio, and Greer went on to deny ever saying this during his WC testimony]…Greer stated that they (the Secret Service) have always been instructed to keep the motorcade moving at a considerable speed inasmuch as a moving car offers a much more difficult target than a vehicle traveling at a very slow speed. He pointed out that on numerous occasions he has attempted to keep the car moving at a rather fast rate, but in view of the President's popularity and desire to maintain close liaison with the people, he has, on occasion, been instructed by the President to "slow down". Greer stated that he has been asking himself if there was any thing he could have done to have avoided this incident, but stated that things happened so fast that he could not account for full developments in this matter(!) [the "JFK-as-scapegoat" theme…and so much for Greer's remorse from earlier the same day!]."(Sibert & O'Neil Report, 11/22/63)

Agent Greer to the FBI 11/27/63: "…he heard a noise which sounded like a motorcycle backfire. On hearing this noise he glanced to his right toward Kellerman and out of the corner of his eye noticed that the Governor appeared to be falling toward his wife [notice that Greer now mentions nothing about seing JFK hit---he does the same thing in his undated report in the WC volumes (18 H 723)] He thereafter recalls hearing some type of outcry after which Kellerman said, "Let's get out of here." He further related that at the time of hearing the sound he was starting down an incline which passes beneath a railroad crossing and after passing under this viaduct, he closed in on the lead car and yelled to the occupants and a nearby police motorcyclist, "Hospital, Hospital! [nothing about using the radio this time out]" Thereafter follows a complete physical description of Greer, as if the FBI agents considered him a suspect, inc. age, height, and color of eyes! (Sibert & O'Neil Report, 11/29/63)

Greer realized several days later how incriminating his actions were and lied. HE WAS A STUPID GOON.
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I did not crack the Da Vinci Code here. It's totally obvious that Greer fired the fatal shot.

The fake reflection causes the headshot by working in perfect sync with the fake blood mist. 312-313
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In the nix film the headshot happens at the exact moment Greer's arm goes over his right shoulder which mirrors the altered zapruder film. It's that easy in a cartoon sort of way because that's exactly what the zfilm is, a cartoon of the driver shooting Kennedy.
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