Sliding In The Building, lets see...! Options

[Guest_m-v-b_*]

Ok well

lets start here:
http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/175speed.html

In this Link they show u that the plane slides in the building, and looses about 8-13% ore maybe 25% of its kinetic energy.

So lets count out what this kinetic energy would be. We use this form:

Kinetische Energie:
E-kin.(J) = 0,5 * Mass(kg) * (velocity(m/s))²

But first lets guess what was the wheigt of the plane:
The empty 767 has mass of about 70 Tonns
+ round 10 Tonns of luggage, clothes, and shipping load
+ round 80 Passangers x 70Kg = 5.6 Tonns
+ and i gues arround 4 Tonnes of Jetfuel
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= 90 Tonnes

I think i was a bit more but it dosent matter so much at this moment(if 1 of my guessings are totaly wrong PLS correct me!)

The velocity of the Plane is hard to calculate, since we dont have a Flightdata recorder available. Markus Icke did some mesaurment with available Videomaterials, he came to different results, from 520 to 604 mp/h

This gives us a maximum of 972.04 kmH to a lowest posible of 836.86 kmH
Therfor oure first result gives us a speed of 270 m/s and for oure second result a speed of 232 m/s. Well.
Lets use oure form:

1: E-kin.(J) = 0,5 * mass(kg) * (velocity(m/s))²

E-kin.(J) = 0,5 * 90000(kg) * (270(m/s))² = 3.280.500.000 J

2: E-kin.(J) = 0,5 * 90000(kg) * (232(m/s))² = 2.422.080.000 J

Now look here:

(IMG:http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3962/wtc2damage17nb.jpg)


Ok on all videos u see the same, the Plane slides in with almost no resistance.
But Imagine 1 thing, lets say the plane travels with a velocity of 232 m/s , each tower side was about 63 meters wide, therfor the plane could travel 3.6 times true the tower, but what we see is that the plane slides in and after an delay of about mostly a second we see n explosion.
If its possible for some for myself unknown reason, that a Aluminum plane can slice itself true heavy construktion steel, even true the heavy Corebeams, what would the plane stop after it cuts true the coreedge?
It gets even more worst, u see a maximum of 3.3 billion Joul, the plane slides in with almost no loose of KE, but after its completly inside, and invisible for all eyes, it absorbt round 3 Billion of joul in round half a second! Therfor u have only 1 Scenario:
(Correct me if i am wrong)
- The Plane hits some unremoveable resistance, therfor it overgives all its KE to the unremoveable resistance. The Problem is after the plane cuts off the the Corebeams, ther would be no more resistance except the Floortruses, and some furniture.

ok how ever its very convincing me!

maybe some 1 can help out^^

greetz m-v-b

[George Hayduke]

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[George Hayduke]

C'mon ladies. If nobody wants to talk about this then we can presume we all agree that no big Boeing hit the South Tower and we can close down F175 forums and move NBBT out of the alt theories department.

Do we all agree that no big Boeing hit the South Tower?

[Cary]

While I hold that as a distinct possibility George, I couldn't say so for sure.

And while it's a fascinating topic, does it really matter if a Boeing hit the South Tower or something else was "faked" into the building? Problem is we don't have incontravertible evidence. We have some pretty damned good evidence that supports the NBBT, but why risk having a chink in the armor if we don't need to.

My thoughts anyway.

[JackD]

Both NBBT and Planes-hit-WTC2 can be pursued at the same time.
Knowing both parts keeps mind sharp.
But that is for truthers/researchers/writers.

as far as waking people up who are in denial -- the burden is on the official conspiracy theorists (such as the admin, the kean-hamiliton commish, NIST, and my brother in law) to prove that what is claimed by OCT is plausible, possible, conceivable.

David Ray Griffin calls the OCT argument one based on deductive argument. if even one link in the OCT chain is weak, or breaks, the entire OCT chain of hijack-plane-buliding-fire-collapse breaks.

DRG presents a counter argument of cumulative weight -- in which all evidences are additive, not serially linked like christmas lights in a daisy-chain..

having said that: Hayduke, level with your NBBT broadsides. -- would like to see some more breakdown of the plane part evidence at Murray Street (spook corner) as well as 'eyewitnesses' to parts and to crashes.

[behind]

Interesting blog from Ningen. (I have no idea who he is... but just interesting what he is saying)

ningens-blog.blogspot.com/2007/01/little-wheel-that-could.html

ningens-blog.blogspot.com/2007/01/little-wheel-that-could-not-part-2.htm

And here is his main site ningens-blog.blogspot.com

[Guest_m-v-b_*]

I just made a short movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3uVKYxafxI

hf greetz m-v-b