Blackwater Usa - Mercenary Firm, Founded 1997 by former Navy Seal Options

[jo56]

http://www.nndb.com/company/462/000105147/

Mercenary firm founded in 1997 by former Navy SEAL and fundamentalist Christian Erik Prince. Received no-bid contracts from the Bush administration in Iraq, Afghanistan, and post-Katrina New Orleans.

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/

About:

http://209.183.221.44/about/

Erik Prince:

http://www.nndb.com/people/926/000117575/

Note: Joseph E. Schmitz on this list use to be our Pentagon Inspector General 2002-2005

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2005/Schmi...uits31aug05.htm

Cofer Black (One Board Member?):

http://www.nndb.com/people/615/000050465/

This post has been edited by jo56: Jan 26 2007, 03:04 PM

[JackD]

Blackwater mercenaries shot and killed civilians in New Orleans.

the US raid on fallajuh in Nov 2004 was, in part, retribution for several Blackwater mercenaries haveing been killed, hung, and burnt.

They receive contracts from the US government. time to look at how

YOUR TAX MONEY IS BEING SPENT.

[jo56]

http://www.sigir.mil/reports/pdf/testimony...ony_07-006T.pdf

Check out the Iraq Inspector Generals report to Congress - Jan 18, 2007

[amazed!]

Last week or two there was an article in the LA Times about Blackwater.

Military Industrial Complex in full bloom.

[jo56]

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/print...8106&ran=202193

Six Part Series:

Part I - A New Breed of Warriors

Part II - Profitable Patriotism

Part III - On the Front Lines

Part IV - When Things Go Wrong

Part V - On American Soil

Part 6 - New Horizons


(Many other articles and videos also)

This post has been edited by jo56: Feb 1 2007, 03:38 PM

[jo56]

Blackwater Top Brass:

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/print...8028&ran=144012

Erik Prince, 37 was a financial backer of Gary Bauer, a conservative activist.

This post has been edited by jo56: Feb 6 2007, 10:39 PM

[Devilsadvocate]

What i would be concerned about is this:
During the Iran-Contra hearings, somebody asked why there were ten million Dollars destined for the Contras, which instead ended up in a Swiss number-account.
Answer:
"...That money was earmarked for a small group within the CIA. The idea was to use the money for regular investment, and use the income thus generated to finance the operations of this little group, independent from the finances and without the knowledge of Congress..." (i.e., a money-laundering-operation)
Apart from a subdued "Oooohhh", ther was no reaction to that at all back then.
This constitutes a state within a state: If it was indeed left intact, then those people had something like twenty years to 'dig in'.
In which case i would imagine that there are many, many 'profitable' ways by which to raise funds (like drugs, for example), which can then be 'laundered' by investing in regular companies.
What will a soldier do who has spent several years in a special-forces-unit, when he leaves the Army? He will look for some kind of job were his expertise is valued.
A security-firm is therefore a good option. 99% of those former soldiers may then do routine-jobs.
But if some of these companies are in effect fronts for either the CIA, or for the aforementioned little group within the CIA, it may provide a wonderful way to kill several birds with one stone:
1) It generates income, which can be used without Congress knowing the first thing about it.
2) The aforementioned little group can go "window-shopping" for suitable recruits-
People which may first be coerced into doing jobs which will leave them with sufficiently dirty hands, and who can eventually be blackmailed into doing jobs which leave them with more and more dirt on their hands, until finally the company (pun not intended) owns their behinds.
They may even end up with their private army- one made up not of soldiers, but of 'super-soldiers'.
Prime candidates for jobs like planting explosives in buildings, and so on. :ph43r:
And i hope to god that i'm just a paranoid git...

This post has been edited by Devilsadvocate: Feb 6 2007, 04:37 PM

[jo56]

IMO you are right on target.

These mercenary groups have the TIMOTHY MCVEIGH types, the racist, the dishonest, and the white supremacist. These are some of the bad reports coming out about Blackwater people, and similar mercenary groups that are being formed through these various Defense Contractors (who btw are PRIVATE).

How this was ever allowed to happen is beyond me. Congress has been asleep at the wheel in a major way, and is going to have to do a major change in how it does business.

btw, it is DISGUSTING that they feel that focusing on their PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS presently is more important than dealing with the crisis CREATED BY THIS PRESIDENT and his neocon buddies.

Congress needs a lesson in setting priorities! They don't even have a clue what is important RIGHT NOW!

[Cary]

Very true Ms. Jo.

And Timothy McVeigh was a govt. operative. According to an interview I heard with an FBI hitman, Tim McVeigh was a good friend of his and never died fron an execution. He has received plastic surgery and is still a govt. operative in South America, alive and well. It was an interview on RBN. As soon as the archives comes back up I'll link it.

Would that surprise you? McVeigh being a govt. operative that is. Hell, Alex Jones broke the story that McVeigh was filmed on a military base parking tanks as a soldier over a year after he was supposed to have left the military. One of them things makes you go "hhhmmmmmmm...." don't it.

[jo56]

Yeah, doesn't surprise me a bit.

The amazing thing is that Blackwater is SUPPOSEDLY run by a CHRISTIAN. I guess he is another imposter claiming to be something he isn't. Otherwise, he wouldnt be running this type of organization that is the furtherest thing from CHRISTIAN.

No honor whatsoever in this bunch!

[jo56]

Contrary to the testimony of top Pentagon officials, new documents obtained by Reps. Waxman and Van Hollen disclose that Halliburton subcontractors in Iraq had security subcontracts with Blackwater that Army officials say were prohibited under Halliburton's contract.

Came from this site of Henry Waxman:
http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=11...+Reconstruction\

Blackwater Contract:
http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20061...51614-43671.pdf

Army Secretary Letter:
http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20061...51642-57715.pdf

Letter to Donald Rumsfeld:
http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20061...40147-13836.pdf

This post has been edited by jo56: Feb 6 2007, 11:08 PM

[Devilsadvocate]

The amazing thing is that Blackwater is SUPPOSEDLY run by a CHRISTIAN.

...Of course: Ask yourself "How can someone influence public opinion in such a way that he can take control over the way people think".
As i stated in the "Hill and Knowlton"- thread, politicians hire image-consultants in order to project an image palatable to their voters; in the case of George W., that image is based on the religious convictions many Americans hold dear.
Now- if you want to make use of Mercenaries like the Blackwater-crowd, then this will always carry a certain risk: If something goes wrong, stupid questions may be asked- and those questions would be directed at the fellow you are referring to.
He will therefore need a certain ability to communicate with the media, while being able to *project an image which makes him palatable* to a majority- lest there are even more stupid questions raised.
Religious beliefs have really little to do with it- its part of the PR-machinery, no more; and that only in regard to potential "damage-control-measures" which might become neccessary...
When the war in Nicaragua was still going on, there was a place called "El Aguacarte" in Honduras; it was used as a secret supply-base for the Contra-rebels as well as a detention- and interrogation-center by the CIA. (It was actually under the direct auspices of John Negroponte, who eventually moved on- and up- from there).
One of the people held in that place is now trying to find out what happend to dozens of Honduran citizens who dissappeared back then. He said in an interview i heard on DW Radio Germany that his human-rights-group in Honduras was able to identify several of the mercenaries who did the dirty work in that place; these people now work for companies like Blackwater. (Atlas and Cosmos were two security-firms he mentioned; but i don't think they still exist in those forms).
I'll try to find some link about that...

[Devilsadvocate]

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/04/con04175.html

...What a nice man... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

[Devilsadvocate]

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/biog...es/heydrich.htm

...As they say in the credits: "Any similarities with living or dead persons are purely coincidental..." (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Devilsadvocate: Feb 7 2007, 03:50 PM

[jo56]

Cofer Black (former CIA) is Vice Chairman of Blackwater:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cofer_Black

Great article, Devils!

[THE_DECIDER]

my younger brother is a marine, and wants to kill "terrorists" and cant WAIT!!! to join blackwater...... i explained the way our government works, and lets just say i ended up breaking his nose at 3 am in our front yard.... cause in his mind, sean hannity tells him the truth, and his big brother is just some commie libral...

i hope he gets what hes looking for...

and ps. he would follow ANY order givin to him... he said that after i asked if he would shoot americans.

EDIT, i didnt just sucker punch him, he grabbed a knife but didnt have the balls to use it,, let loose a flurry of sloppy lazy eyes closed punches, my one and only punch knocked his 6'4 ass on the ground and he ran off crying........

he didnt like it when i called him a tool, and a baby in the head, he needs people to tell him what to do because he cant life his own life....yea, he didnt like that....lol

This post has been edited by THE_DECIDER: Feb 8 2007, 04:26 AM

[Devilsadvocate]

Well, check this- and i'm not sure if it has appeared anywhere on this site before; if it has- it can't be looked at often enough:
http://www.new-life.net/milgram.htm

I am seriously wondering in how far the same principle may apply to a whole society, or at least to sections of society. Look at the way in which *my* people were literally mesmerized by a shoddy little clown like Adolf Hitler: All it takes is someone who can project an image of "authority", and there will be people who will be susceptible to that "authority"- they ask how high they should jump.
It's a weakness- one of those no one is ever without; if it becomes coupled with the right "wrong circumstances", you end up with a problem...
...And it becomes more pronounced in an organisation like the military, simply because "obediance" is obviously one of the principles without which the military could not function.
Look at Lyndie England: One of God's dumb creatures.
She has got certain weaknesses- everyone has them, but in her they are more pronounced- namely the fact that she is incapable of making decisions of her own.
Her Army-records would contain a psychological profile- and those boyos from the military secret service would have checked those records.
Under normal circumstances, she would *never* have done what she did- simply because it would have *never* occurred to her to do something like that.
Charles Graynor would have *never* done something like that- because he would have *never* had the opportunity to do them...
What gets me about the people behind all this is that they don't simply make use of the negative sides or the weaknesses that people have.
They subvert the goodness in people for there own ends- look at the way in which people reacted after 911. Some of it may have been plain old selfrighteousness- but a lot of it was based on a genuine willingness to make sacrifices.
That's something i don't even have words for...

[jo56]

The Decider,

Sounds like your brother is one of the "sheeple", sad to say. He has it bad wanting to sign up to kill terrorists. If they only knew the "terrorists" were created by their own people and include their own people, they would be SHOCKED! Wakeup SHEEPLE!


Devilsadvocate,

Thx for the new website. Yet another, of many, that have been brainwashing Americans for decades. DISGUSTING!

[Devilsadvocate]

That's the problem. The original experiment was carried out to determine wether the claims by German warcriminals ("I just followed orders") were any more than just sad excuses (...and it has to be said that in many cases, they just were!).
It was controversial at the time, coming shortly after the trial of Adolph Eichmann; a lot of people back then would have preferred the "hang and forget"-approach.
But the results of that study must also be known to those who want to make use of the very weaknesses that experiment uncovered.
I was surprised to find out that soldiers of the US army have to take an oath of allegiance, not only to the constitution and the American nation, but to the president...and they have to swear that they will carry out the orders of the president and of their superiors.
As a German, i would have a serious problem with that- there are orders which *must not be carried out*, no matter what. (...And you may be glad to know that the concept of clicking one's heels and asking "how high would you like me to jump" went out of fashion in Germany on the 8th. May 1945 (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

[Sanders]

(...And you may be glad to know that the concept of clicking one's heels and asking "how high would you like me to jump" went out of fashion in Germany on the 8th. May 1945 (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

Why can't Americans not see this??

Thanks, Devilsadvocate.
We need to start calling a spade a spade.