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White Jet Analysis, Plane Seen Flying Over Pentagon/DC

post Oct 21 2006, 11:47 AM
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edit by rb Jan 30, 2008:

It appears "BoneZ" became a bit disgruntled with the fact we removed him from mod status and chose to delete his work in this thread on Jan 29, 2008. (Click here for more information)

BoneZ research in this thread focused on -- and primarily established -- identification of the "White Plane" as an E-4B.



It is pretty well known now type of aircraft. So it isnt much of a loss.

The most important work in this thread has been done, and is being done, by "pinnacle" and others. This thread still retains its value regardless of BoneZ attempts at spite.

We apologize for any confusion and we are thankful BoneZ did not delete other members posts as he has done in other circumstance(s).

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post Oct 21 2006, 11:52 AM
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Switching the link on the pilotsfor911truth pentagon page now...
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post Nov 19 2006, 09:14 PM
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boneZ -- very good summary of the White Plane analysis.

funny how no one in the press is talking about this massive plane which was pver the capitol that day...
hmmm...
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post Nov 19 2006, 10:03 PM
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This is a very interesting subject that I would love to read more about. Those planes look so weird that they almost look fake. (I don't think they are fake, they just look it.)
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post Nov 20 2006, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (JackD @ Nov 20 2006, 02:14 AM)
boneZ -- very good summary of the White Plane analysis.

funny how no one in the press is talking about this massive plane which was pver the capitol that day...
hmmm...

Welcome Jack, bout time you made it here. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 23 2006, 06:14 AM
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QUOTE (JackD @ Nov 20 2006, 02:14 AM)
funny how no one in the press is talking about this massive plane which was pver the capitol that day...
hmmm...

it is strange, by the time this plane flew by the pentagon, surley nearly all other aircraft would have been grounded.
and it wasn't shot down, so obvoiusly it posed no threat, so i'm assuming the people in charge knew what and why the plane was there.

it's another piece they have tried to brush under the carpet.
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post Nov 27 2006, 05:44 PM
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I have a letter from the US Air Force stating that they have "no knowledge" of the
White Jet that flew over Washington in restricted airspace between 9:30 and 10:00
am on September 11, 2001.
Several months ago I filed a FOIA request with the FAA for data on this aircraft
based on my communications with eyewitnesses who saw and photographed this plane as the White House was being evacuated, and recordings from NBC news describing this plane on the air.
My FOIA is still stalled due to a subpoena for all 9/11 records for a court case.
I also have a pending request to Discovery Channel for details about the video of an E-4B supposedly shot on 9/11 near the Pentagon.
The Vigilant Guardian exercise involved three E-4Bs but all were supposedly in airspace over Nebraska since they are designed to stay far from target areas and at high altitude for safety.
Interestingly there was a report of a White Jet over Kansas later that day after all planes had been grounded which could have been this plane.
It makes no sense to put an E-4B low and slow over the
White House and Pentagon when it's whole purpose is take control after the
ground based command centers have been destroyed.
Why risk being a big white target for a hijacked airliner to crash into and take out 300 million dollars worth of electronics gear?
In the 35mm film image it appears to have front flaps extended for extra slow flying. The video also appears to be quite slow for a plane of this size over a populated area.
This plane was up to something that has been kept secret for five years.
Since there is plenty of documentary evidence for this plane, I think it's
presence and the subsequent cover-up should be a major focus of all 9/11 investigations.
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post Nov 27 2006, 09:48 PM
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Welcome, pinnacle! Interesting post. I find it strange that they claim to have no knowledge of this plane that was in restricted air space!
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post Nov 28 2006, 04:48 AM
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thanks for shedding some light pinnacle.
i can't believe they are saying have no knowledge of this plane.
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post Nov 29 2006, 06:48 PM
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Welcome pinnacle, glad you made it! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 9 2006, 12:06 PM
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Yes. This white plane is mysterious.

But I just notice this witness:

Vaughn said "I was scanning the air" as he was sitting in his car.

"There wasn't anything in the air, except for one airplane, and it looked like it was loitering over Georgetown, in a high, left-hand bank," he said. "That may have been the plane. I have never seen one on that (flight) pattern."

Georgetown is a sector of the District of Columbia jammed with shops and restaurants - it is one of the city's most vital tourist draws. Commercial aircraft that are either approaching or departing from nearby Ronald Reagan National Airport do not fly over Georgetown, and rather trace their flight route over the nearby Potomac River, which separates the district from South Arlington, Virginia, location of the Pentagon.

A few minutes later, Vaughn witnessed the craft's impact.


archives.cnn.com

As I understand his words... then the plane was "banked to the left"

The white plane is banked to the left.

(but maybe I am misunderstanding his words)

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post Dec 12 2006, 06:10 PM
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The E4B, as BoneZ and WaterDancer and others point out, carries the nuclear missile launch codes.

Among other things.

The purpose of this plane is unknown. Was it playing in the war games? Was it coincidence (!) ?

Was it a symbolic demonstration to the 'white house' that "we have the launch codes, do what we say to launch the 'clash of civilizations' -- or we will proceed."

(see Webster Tarpley -- and consider why Bush had to race to Offutt AFB, where these E4B, and the strategic command, is located)

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post Dec 12 2006, 07:59 PM
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If the E-4B was "innocently" in restricted airspace during a terrorist attack than why has it been covered up for five years?
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post Dec 12 2006, 08:53 PM
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Rardon of Indiana found the MISSING PIECE to the 9/11 White Jet Timeline PUZZLE. He sent a CNN video exposing the WHITE JET PRESENCE over the White House environs. Previously the WHITE JET was seen and/or caught on video in the other 9/11 locations, but not Washington, D.C., orchestrating the most heinous mass murder in American History. The online transcripts for that CNN broadcast are found at

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.01.html

Advance the 01 in the url to get later transcripts.

About 10 minutes ago, there was a white jet circling overhead. Now, you generally don't see planes in the area over the White House. That is restricted air space. No reason to believe that this jet was there for any nefarious purposes, but the Secret Service was very concerned, pointing up at the jet in the sky. It is out of sight now, best we can tell. They've evacuated the entire White House staff and the old executive office, as well as some townhouses that are government offices.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.06.html

KATE SNOW, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT:

About a half hour ago, the Capitol building itself was evacuated. It was a little bit chaotic. Everyone was running out of the building. People ran a couple of blocks away. Now have been pushed back by security. We're within two blocks of the Capitol. I did see a plane, about a half hour ago, circling over the Capitol. Now whether that may have been a Air Force plane, it's unclear. But that seemed to be the reason, according to security guards that I talked with, towards the evacuation of the Capitol.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.05.html


This screen capture from a CNN video caught the White Jet in the Pentagon airspace violating the national shutdown of aircraft at 9:25:

see photo at
http://home.att.net/~carlson.jon/Pentagonhelicopter.htm



OTHER WHITE JET WITNESS REPORTS:


1) Brian Kennedy, press secretary for a congressman, and others also see a
second plane. [Sacramento Bee, 9/15/01]
http://www.sacbee.com/static/archive/news/...ks/0915_01.html


2) Meseidy Rodriguez confirms "it was a mid size plane". His brother inlaw
also saw a jetliner flying low over the tree tops near Seminary Rd. in
Springfield, VA. and soon afterwards a military plane was seen flying right
behind it.
http://mfile.akamai.com/920/rm/thepost.dow...n/091101-5s.ram

3) Kelly Knowles says that seconds after seeing Flight 77 pass, she sees a
"second plane that seemed to be chasing the first [pass] over at a slightly
different angle."
[Daily Press, 9/15/01]
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelin...ress091501.html


4) Keith Wheelhouse says the second plane was a C-130, two others aren't
certain. [Daily Press, 9/15/01] Wheelhouse "believes IT FLEW DIRECTLY ABOVE THE AMERICAN AIRLINES (AS AT THE NORTH TOWER!), as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon." As Flight 77 descends toward the Pentagon, the second plane veers off west. [Daily
Press, 9/14/01]
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelin...ress091401.html
[NOTE: WHEELHOUSE JUST MAY BE FULL OF **(#] I DEFER TO MERC AND RUSSEL.


5) USA Today reporter Vin Narayanan, who saw the Pentagon explosion, says,
"I hopped out of my car after the jet exploded, nearly oblivious to a second
jet hovering in the skies."
[USA Today, 9/17/01]
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/0...irst-person.htm


6) USA Today Editor Joel Sucherman sees a second plane. [eWeek, 9/13/01].
Within a minute another plane started veering up and to the side. At that
point it wasn't clear if that plane was trying to manouver out of the air
space or if that plane was coming round for another hit. (Audio)
http://play.rbn.com/?url=usat/usat/g2deman...1sucherman.ra&v


7) An unnamed worker at Arlington national cemetery "said a mysterious
second plane was circling the area when the first one attacked the
Pentagon."
[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 12/20/01]
http://www.s-t.com/daily/12-01/12-20-01/a02wn018.htm
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post Dec 12 2006, 10:14 PM
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So, you have just been looking at the witness too !!!

What a coincidedence biggrin.gif

Well... it is a small world.

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QUOTE (JackD @ Dec 12 2006, 11:10 PM)
Was it playing in the war games? Was it coincidence (!) ?

According to the following document, 3 of the 4 E-4B's were playing in the wargames:

Page 166 in the following link explains about a drill being operated on 9/11 called Global Guardian and how the E-4B's were used in those drills:

http://www.house.gov/mckinney/20050722transcript.pdf
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post Dec 14 2006, 07:45 PM
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I sent a copy of the letter from the US air force that denies the existence of the
white plane over the White House at 9:42 am to CNN just to see if they
have any journalistic curiousity about why the air force would be unaware of
a plane that was described on the air by their own reporters and caused the Secret Service to evacuate the Capitol of the United States.
That fact alone ought to be headline news.
I don't expect them to respond.
They have certainly avoided the issue for the past five years.
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QUOTE (pinnacle @ Dec 15 2006, 12:45 AM)
I sent a copy of the letter from the US air force that denies the existence of the
white plane over the White House at 9:42 am to CNN just to see if they
have any journalistic curiousity about why the air force would be unaware of
a plane that was described on the air by their own reporters and caused the Secret Service to evacuate the Capitol of the United States.
That fact alone ought to be headline news.
I don't expect them to respond.
They have certainly avoided the issue for the past five years.

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post Dec 18 2006, 05:40 PM
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spanish broadcast of white plane and white house

apparently the "white plane" was clearly visible from White House. So what was the purpose of the white plane? friend, or foe? a message?

(identified as c-130, or stealth, in the above youtube link -- i'm with BoneZ -- it was a special E4B 747...)
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post Dec 20 2006, 02:33 PM
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Check out the new Doubletree videos that show an "object" circling the Pentagon at
9:23 am.
This is hard to make out but appears to be a white plane making a right banking turn.
There is a flash of white as the sun hits the wing then we see the shadowed underside
as it flies back across frame.
The White Plane leaves, then Flight 77 hits at 9:38 am, than CNN, BBC, and Telemundo video shows the white plane is over the White House at 9:43 am. and then the ABC video shows the white plane again near the Pentagon at 9:50 am.
Lots of hard evidence and no "journalists" asking a single question.
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