White Jet Analysis, Plane Seen Flying Over Pentagon/DC Options

[pinnacle]

There were so many planes in that "cleared airspace" that day that it gets confusing.
I have seen video of what could be a smaller white plane near the Pentagon. It is just hard to tell what you are seeing.
But the E-4B or whatever it was is definitely the "big white jet" described
flying slowly and seen in the videos.
In fact in the still picture it appears that the front flaps are extended which would have allowed even a slower flight.
I wonder if the slow circular flight path would indicate that the wire antenna was extended out the tail for electronic spoofing operations?

[pinnacle]

Speak of the devil.
About an hour ago I saw a "big white four engine jet" fly over headed for Edwards Air Force Base.
I checked it on Airport Monitor and saw it was an "unidentified military aircraft"
flying at 26,500 feet.
Could it be an E-4B?
Even better could it be the 9/11 Washington DC E-4B?

[pinnacle]

Strange how the White Plane topic jumped up by 3000 views in a couple of weeks and now has had very few views for the past several days.
I am still trying top get more information about radio and cellphone interference
in Washington DC on 9/11 that may be further evidence of the presence of
the E-4B using it's 15,000 watt power generator for some kind of electronic
warfare operation.
I have sent letters and emails to the the FAA regarding the status of my FOIA
requests for Washington DC air traffic records on 9/11 but so far no response.
Also no reply from ABC News, NBC News, CNN, Discovery Channel or Fox News concerning their transcripts and videos of the White Plane.

Also no reply from ABC News, NBC News, CNN, Discovery Channel or Fox News concerning their transcripts and videos of the White Plane.

Hope you're not holding your breath! [laugh] (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

[pinnacle]

The FAA is telling me they have gotten more subpoenas for 9/11 records which have effectively stopped all FOIA requests for any 9/11 information.
I wonder who is filing all of these subpoenas?

[gideon524]

Damn...

Guess there goes my FOIA to the NTSB and FBI for the CVR audio from UA93.

Hey pinnacle, what did your 9/11 skeptic buddies have to say about the picture of that plane over the Capitol I posted?

This post has been edited by gideon524: Jan 25 2007, 09:17 PM

[pinnacle]

Everyone dismisses the video as being taken at a later time that day,
but cannot explain when this would have happened.
Of course they also dismiss the transcripts of reporters describing this as happening at 9:45 am well before any air force planes arrived over Washington
according to 9/11 Commission.
What amazes me is that there is no reporter who saw Flight 77 at all and no images of it yet we are expected to believe it existed and this well documented four engine jet is simply ignored by everyone including the news organizations who reported it at the time.
I am not sure if the subpoenas are going to other agencies but thje FAA is definitely not processing any FOIAs for 9/11 data at this time, which seems to undermine the whole point of having FOIA in the first place.
You would think they could have a seperate process for legal cases and for
FOIA since this situation not only prevents private citizens from getting information but shuts down journalists, historians and other researchers who are supposed to
have a constitutional right to ask questions of the government.

[pinnacle]

I may have spoken to soon, or somebody in Washington may be reading this page.
I just got an email from the head FAA FOIA guy. He says I will be getting
an update next week on my FOIA request. I don't know what exactly they mean by update but any information on this whole situation would be interesting since he made no mention of any subpoenas being in the way.
Do you think that if Bush's poll numbers go low enough some of these federal agencies might feel free to start talking?

[pinnacle]

Funny how, after 4000 views in a short time, nobody has been viewing this page for the past several days. What happened?

[pinnacle]

I got the official notification from the FAA.
There are "no records" of any aircraft flying over Washington DC
near the White House or Capitol Building on September 11, 2001
between 9:00 am and 10:00 am .
This is really strange because the three Langley fighters got there at
9:50 am and apparently were invisible to radar.
I was not given any radar images for this time period so I guess we have to take their word for it.
This means that ABC, NBC, CNN, FOX NEWS, and everybody else was hallucinating
a four engine white jet that showed up on video but did not actually exist,
while the Pentagon was hit by a 757 that did not show up on video. At least we now know nothing funny was going on.

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

Paste a scan of the FAA's reply please.

This post has been edited by Merc: Feb 13 2007, 05:29 PM

[pinnacle]

I don't have a scanner.
Also I am trying to keep this and all other official documents for use in the film.
I have FOIAs pending to other government agencies about this.

[Pier69]

Page 166 in the following link explains about a drill being operated on 9/11 called Global Guardian and how the E-4B's were used in those drills:

http://www.house.gov/mckinney/20050722transcript.pdf

Please guys...This link has been removed (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbdown.gif)

Someone of you has download it?

Tnx.

Pier

[pinnacle]

According to procedure at least one E-4B should have been near the President in Florida on 9/11 and it should have functioned as a relay station for communications from Air Force One.
Bush had lots of communication problems that day.
In the 1980s Reagan parked the E-4B at March Air Force base when he was in Santa Barbara. Thousands of people complained of radio interference from
the powerful E-4B transmitters. Again think of the radio problems on 9/11.
Bush flew to Offutt where the other three E-4Bs were in case he needed to
change planes but if one was already
in Washington why not just fly him to Langley, which is a forward base for
ACC, and make the switch?

[behind]

"Because of Global Guardian, three special military command aircraft with sophisticated communications equipment, based at Offutt, are up in the air the morning of 9/11. These E-4B National Airborne Operations Center planes—nicknamed “Doomsday” planes during the Cold War—are intended to control nuclear forces from the air in times of crisis. They are capable of acting as alternative command posts for top government officials from where they can direct US forces, execute war orders and coordinate the actions of civil authorities in times of national emergency. The Federal Advisory Committee (whose chairman is retired Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft) is aboard one of these Doomsday planes, being brought to Offutt to observe the exercise.
Just as at Barksdale media accounts indicate Global Guardian was cancelled at Offutt shortly after the second WTC tower was hit (at 9 03) with staff swiching to "real world mode" (Department of Defense, 1/9/02)

However, even after Global Guardian was called off, all three E-4Bs remained airborne. (Omaha World-Herald 2/27/02)"

www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=global_guardian

www.vt911.org/McKinneyReport20050722transcript.pdf (p.166)

This post has been edited by behind: Feb 26 2007, 02:26 PM

[pinnacle]

I have received a communication from one of the network news
White House correspondents who reported the "big white jet" on 9/11.
He confirms that he recognized it as the "Doomsday Plane"
and that it did fly low and slow around the White House.
I have inquires in with two other network correspondents who saw the
"white plane" with their own eyes but have not heard from them yet.
These people spent years in Washington and knew what they were looking at.

[rob balsamo]

I have received a communication from one of the network news
White House correspondents who reported the "big white jet" on 9/11.
He confirms that he recognized it as the "Doomsday Plane"
and that it did fly low and slow around the White House.
I have inquires in with two other network correspondents who saw the
"white plane" with their own eyes but have not heard from them yet.
These people spent years in Washington and knew what they were looking at.

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[pinnacle]

I just looked at the radar images from the TWA Flight 800 investigation and noticed that the military aircraft, such as the P3, that were in the area
did not have a transponder turned on and were just primary returns on the FAA
radars. They show up just as well as the transponder targets.
Presumably any military planes in the air on 9/11 would also have
no transponders further confusing the issue of who was a hijack.
The white plane may also be just an unidentified blip in the FAA radar scans I have been trying to get with no success.

[Ashoka]

just found while watching some CNN footage from archive.org.....

CNN 9:54 A.M. A white plane was circling the White House ten minutes ago

The most documented "non existent" plane in the history

Ashoka

[pinnacle]

Instead of contacting congressman and senators to investigate 9/11
anomalies like the white plane why not contact the news media people who all reported this thing and ask them why they have never followed-up on such an important story?
This is Pulitzer Prize material for any journalist who is willing to dig into it.
My first series of letters to NBC, ABC, CBS , CNN and Fox got no reply but I was just one letter writer. White Jet analysis has gotten many more page views
than any other topic so it should be possible to get at least a few hundred emails to these people.