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What Hit The South Tower?, The wrong plane!

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post Mar 3 2007, 12:46 PM
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Here is an actual file photo of N612UA - the aircraft alleged to have impacted the South Tower (Flight 175):

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/205074/L/
United Airlines
Boeing 767-222
New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK / KJFK)
USA - New York, April 28, 2001
N612UA

Please take a look at the following comparisons:

(IMG:http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/beached1000/plaindud.jpg)

(IMG:http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/beached1000/scale.jpg)

We will observe that the nose section of a 200 series, A, is shorter than the wing assembly, B. Whereas for the 300 series A is longer than B.
767-200 => A:B = 190:200 = 0.95:1, i.e. A is less than B
767-300 => A:B = 221:200 = 1.105:1, i.e. A is greater than B

The NIST frames of the aircraft that impacted the South Tower give us A:B = 20.76:19.91 = 1.04:1

In other words, A is greater than B. Therefore, this plane's fuselage is too long to be a Boeing 767-222.

A more in-depth analysis can be found here:
http://www.amics21.com/911/flight175/second.html

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QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Nov 2 2007, 04:52 PM)
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Having looked around a bit in the meantime and amongst other articles read your post at:

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/d...99&mesg_id=6254

I am now wondering what did hit WTCs 1 & 2, and the Pentagon too for that matter and understand better where you are comming from.

If it was Penetrators, or a more advanced weapon, this raises a number of questions. How were the fireballs engineered. Ask Hollywood Stunt managers, or Bruce Willis - they may have an idea or two.

Also the NIST arguments WRT massive fuel fires relies upon such pantomime except panto's have a funny side.

As for the planes, I have to say that I was watching it on TV as it unfolded 'live' and distinctly recall seeing an a/c fly in from the opposite side to that which was impacted and fly behind the south tower before seeing an object come in fast from the left followed by the fireball.

I am now very puzzled by that phot' which I have studied closely and can not see how it could have been tampered with.

I believe that the missiles used would have been able to produce the fireballs. In fact the explosions look very much like missile explosions, but there was undoubtedly supplementary explosions to fake the plane like "entry" holes.

The so called live shots were achieved by utilizing a broadcast delay to modify the feed with superimpositions of fake plane images. None of the live shots showed the plane impacting the north facade which made the work of the computer graphics technicians easier as all they had to do was set the software up to cover over the missile with their plane model.

Photo retouch is a skill and there are people who are masters of this skill. Digital technology allows for thoroughly succesful modification of images. Just like with the tower demolitions, skilled technicians were obviously utilized.
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