Aa77 / Raytheon Connection, 77 shot down in mountains? Options

[THE_DECIDER]

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Flight 77 shot down in mountains of W. Virginia

I just listened to a radio interview with a controller from Boston Center (google video). He states clearly that three of the flights were tracked continuously on 9/11 - on radar - even after two had turned off their transponders. They were NEVER off radar. Flight 77 disappeared from radar over the mountains of W. Virginia. There is only one explanation for this. Flight 77 was SHOT DOWN over the mountains of West Virginia. This was part of the plan. What struck the Pentagon had only been picked up on radar for 60 miles or so as it approached - as evidenced by Norm Mineta's 9/11 Commission testimony, and reinforced by the air traffic controllers interview ("it popped up on radar").

What hit the Pentagon was in fact an A3 Skywarrior from Raytheon's inventory (check their inventory - they're missing one) - painted like an AA jet - powered by a Thiokol solid fuel rocket motor (thus the white smoke in the still frames released by the government), loaded with explosives (thus the smell of cordite evidenced by the hundreds of Pentagon employees present that morning).

http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publis...ticle_842.shtml


Raytheon is a darling of Carlyle Group.

Raytheon, maker of Patriot and Tomahawk missiles, watched its stock take off after the attacks.

Purchases of call options contracts on Raytheon stock increased sixfold on September 10, 2001.

CLEARLY, Bets were placed in advance of 9/11 with foreknowledge of 9/11. This isn't just War Profiteering, this is TERROR PROFITEERING.

Raytheon had a DIRECT role in 9/11.

Americans (too many) do not know that Raytheon executives were killed on 9-11, or at least wound up permanently missing, which may be a more accurate way of saying it. It is who wound up missing that is most interesting.

This is an excerpt of the email we received and is information that we knew as of the issuance of the flight manifests for all four of the planes allegedly involved in 9-11:

Subject: Raytheon and 9/11

OK, I'm not gonna say anything here, except to let you read the evidence and then you can tell me what you think. (These are people who supposedly died on 9/11.)


Raytheon and 9/11

Stanley Hall Raytheon Director of Electronic warfare program management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 77, the one that supposedly hit the Pentagon but did not.

Peter Gay Raytheon VP of Electronic Systems on special assignment at the El Segundo, CA division office where the Global Hawk UAV remote control system is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

Kenneth Waldie Raytheon Senior Quality Control for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

David Kovalcin Raytheon Senior Mechanical Engineer for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

Herbert Homer Raytheon Corporate Executive working with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on United airlines Flight 175, the one that supposedly hit the South World Trade Tower II.

These are not only the type of people but they are the people that would be assigned to UAV type projects involving Mode 4 and Mode 5 upgrades. Why would they be in Boston and those planes coming from that direction and from north of Manhattan Island?

That 16 foot tunnel through three rings of the Pentagon is only made by a directional blast weapon. Rumsfeld has even slipped up and mentioned the missile that hit the Pentagon.

Some have seen the Pentagon parking lot camera video and the white trail of smoke. Jets do not leave white trails of smoke at sea level, but Thiokol powered AGMs do, at all altitudes.

5 key Raytheon emloyees were "disappeared" on 9/11.

Dov Zakheim called for "some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor" being necessary to foster the frame of mind needed for the American public to support a war in the Middle East that would politically and culturally reshape the region. A respected and established voice in the intelligence community, his views were eagerly accepted, and Dov went from his position at Systems Planning Corporation to become the Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001. Perhaps not so coincidentally, it was an SPC subsidiary, TRIDATA CORPORATION, that oversaw the investigation after the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.

SPC, according to their official website, specializes in many areas of defense technology production and manufacture, including a system developed by their Radar Physics Group called the Flight Termination System, or FTS. This is a system used to destroy target drones (craft that would be fired on by test aircraft or weaponry) in the event of malfunction or "misses". This highly sophisticated war-game technology allows the control of several 'drones' from a remote location, on varying frequencies, and has a range of several hundred miles. This technology can be used on many different types of aircraft, including large passenger jets.


Dov Zakheim was both the Comptroller at the DOD (having been installed there just a few months prior to 9/11) AND an owner of the SYSPLAN (FTS) technology used to guide the planes to their targets. Zakheim stole $2.3 trillion in the days preceding 9/11 and sent it to his real bosses in Israel.

Rumsfeld admitted to having been unable to account for $2.3 trillion in a press conference held just one day prior to 9/11.


http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/12/350917.shtml


Under the guise of business as usual, consider the huge improprieties in the securities markets that went unnoticed before and immediately after 9/11/2001, contributing to the attacks’ awful success and America’s subsequent decline.

I’m talking about the insider trading behind the “put and call options” scandals that allowed certain individuals to pull in huge profits. Stated as simply as possible, put options were used on stocks that would be hurt by the attack, and call options were used on stocks that would benefit. In the put case you’re betting on a fall in the price of stocks; in the call case, you’re betting on a rise in the price of a stock.

Put options were made on the struck airlines, insurance companies and banks pre-and-through-9/11, as if someone had foreknowledge something bad was going to happen to bring down the price of the stocks. A 9-11 Research report on Insider Trading headlines the tale: “Pre-9/11 Put Options on Companies Hurt by Attack Indicates Foreknowledge.”

There were huge surges in the purchase of put options on stocks of the two airlines, specifically United and American, used and abused in the attack. In fact, American and United Airlines, each with two planes that disappeared that day, as early as September 6, were experiencing dramatic spikes in put options on days when their stock prices were stable. Bloomberg News reported put options on the airlines soared to an unbelievable high, 285 times their average.

What’s of interest is that in the time preceding 9/11 nobody noticed or bothered to connect dots in this buying/selling trend. It was “business as usual” while some group conducted a huge insider trading strike that ultimately ravaged the airlines financially, damaged America, killed 2,749 people, and proved very profitable to the perps, in the short and long run.

Who was at the controls watching? Or were those at the controls part of the problem?

When the market opened after the attacks, United Airlines stock fell a whopping 42 percent from $30.82 to $17.50 a share. American Airline’s stock fell from $20.70 to $18 per share. And millions were made by the scurrilous for personal profit or to finance the ops.

More than three days before the events that flattened the World Trade Center and damaged a sparsely occupied, recently fortified sector of the Pentagon, there was more than 25 times the previous average daily trading in a Morgan Stanley put option that made money when the giant financial institution shares fell below $45. Of course, Morgan Stanley had occupied 22 floors of the North Tower. Its stock dropped 13 percent when the market reopened. Nearby Merrill Lynch’s stock dropped ll.5 percent.

The Bank of America on the 81st floor of the North Tower, the third largest US bank, showed a five times increase in put option trading on the Thursday and Friday before the attack, more than 5,900 contracts that would pay when the stock fell below $60 a share.

What’s more, there were huge surges in purchase of put options on stocks of reinsurance companies slated to cough up billions to cover losses from the attack, i.e., Munich Re in Germany and the AXA Group in France. Do you really think it was those bozos with box cutters that worked this out, Osama in his cave? Or could it possibly be some sophisticated homegrown types, connected to our Company?

Some of the Winners

Perhaps it’s no surprise, but Raytheon, maker of Patriot and Tomahawk missiles, watched its stock take off after the attacks. Purchases of call options contracts on Raytheon stock increased sixfold on September 10, 2001.

The Raytheon option contracts made money, if shares were more than $25 each. The price zoomed up nearly 37 percent to $34.04 during the first week after post 9/11 trading.

Parenthetically, Raytheon had also been hit with millions of dollars in fines for padding costs of equipment it sold to the US military. Raytheon also has a hush-hush subsidiary, E-Systems, whose clients include the CIA and NSA, the latter about to make a hostile takeover of the other.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publis...ticle_842.shtml

[UnderTow]

"Raytheon's inventory (check their inventory"

How does one go about doing this?


Long write up, and it holds some good information, but I find much lacking in the 1st two paragraphs.

Mainly:
There is only one explanation for this.
powered by a Thiokol solid fuel rocket motor (wtf ??)

Otherwise, it's another UFO report. I'll come back and read the rest later. Thanks DC

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Fascinating information! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

Really show how Ike's worst nightmare has come true with a veneance! The MIC in full bloom!

[LizzyTish]

These are not only the type of people but they are the people that would be assigned to UAV type projects involving Mode 4 and Mode 5 upgrades. Why would they be in Boston and those planes coming from that direction and from north of Manhattan Island?

Ummm....because they live in the Boston area? I know for certain that Peter Gay did and I'm pretty sure others were also employed at Raytheon's division here in MA. You can probably Google their information and find that out. Doesn't mean they were or weren't involved in something dicey for Raytheon, but it probably answers the question as to why theyd be on a flight heading out of Logan.

[andrewkornkven]

They were NEVER off radar. Flight 77 disappeared from radar over the mountains of W. Virginia. There is only one explanation for this. Flight 77 was SHOT DOWN over the mountains of West Virginia. This was part of the plan. What struck the Pentagon had only been picked up on radar for 60 miles or so as it approached - as evidenced by Norm Mineta's 9/11 Commission testimony, and reinforced by the air traffic controllers interview ("it popped up on radar").

Well, no, there actually is another explanation for the plane disappearing from radar. That is that there was a hole in the coverage of the primary radar that would have picked up AAL77's primary signal immediately after the transponder was turned off.

That this primary radar coverage gap existed in that location is not disputed as far as I know.

What "popped up on radar" eight and a half minutes later may therefore have been AAL77 itself, which proceeded on to the Pentagon building and crashed there.

I cannot prove that this is what happened, but I believe the principle of Occam's Razor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razorwikipedia

indicates that it did.

I would also like to point out that believing this particular segment of the official story in no way means I believe any other part of the official story.

[Robin Hordon]

THE_DECIDER,

First, there is more than one explanation about the "status" of AA77 after it became lost to positive radar identification in the western West Virginia/Kentucky boundary area so when you so boldly state the the "only" explanation is that it crashed, you are incorrect. In fact, the least likely thing that occurred to AA77 is that it crashed, although it is possible. A DC9 crashed straight down into the everglades years ago and they had a very difficult time even locating where the aircraft buried itself into the muck. That Pan Am flight that blew up over Lockerbie was spread out all over the countryside and it was impossible to MISS that type of crash. As we have seen time and time again, airliners that crash with a "less than straight down" angle towrds the ground or mountains leave huge long streaks of debris and burned out areas which show the crash site. The point is that eventually, we seem to find some form of wreckage or hole in the ground which serve to locate such a crash. Therefore, since no such wreckage or hole in the ground has ever been found in that region, which would lead us to the remains of AA77, and there have been a fair number of searches for such, its very UNLIKELY that AA77 crashed either by being blown-up, breaking apart because airspeed and load limitations were exceeded, or that it went straight down making a smaller hole in the ground as some feel happened to UA93.

Andrew Kornkven's analysis of the radar flight following of AA77, its status as remaining "in positive radar contact", its status after it was "lost" to positive radar contact and identification, whether or not it was ever positively "re-radar identified" as being the AAL B757 flying under the flight number AA77, and whether or not the target discovered flying eastbound near Dulles Approach control WAS that specific flight, AA77, is stated EXACTLY as a well disciplined Air Traffic Controller would so state. He maakes NO such positive assertion that it WAS AA77, but that it COULD BE, and that he BELIEVES that it was AA77. I also state that it COULD be AA77, yet I believe that it might NOT BE AA77 because of other information that I have as a pilot and from my own observations about the crash scene AT the Pentagon.

I am OK with this because my only point is that once positive radar contact was lost with AA77 as it began to turn to the south and descend just before the transponder was lost, nobody, anywhere at any time ever took the steps required to positively re-identify that target as being AA77, and AAL B757 flying under the flight number AA77 on September 11, 2001. The ONLY thing that has been allowed to happen is that it is "presumed to be" or "assumed to be", or "guessed at being" AA77. Kornkoven is NOT making the claim that anyone ever took such steps because if he knew the circumstance, and the people who did this, then we could prove a lot and he would state POSITIVELY that it was AA77, which he does not do.

Understanibly, when looking at it all backwards, ie: if it is TRUE that it was AA77 that hit the Pentagon and this information now becomes the "decider", [if I may borrow one of Bush's terms], then, when tracking the "target" backwards to the point of the loss of radar contact mentioned above, one has an easy time in concluding that it WAS AA77 all the way.

However, IF, and I say again, IF, there is doubt, or lack of solid proof, or lack of convincing evidence that the air vehicle that crashed into the Pentagon WAS AA77, an AAL B757 flying under the flight number of AA77 on September 11, 2001, then there is AMPLE reason NOT TO BELIEVE that the primary target that was picked up 60 miles west of Dulles Airport was AA77.

So, the "official story" builds its case soley upon evidence that it can prove that it was AA77, a B757, that hit the pentagon, and I do not believe that they can prove this, nor do they have such evidence. In fact, SOME of this inability to prove that it was AA77 that hit the Pentagon is shown within the HI PERPS' VERY OWN information given to the "pilots" guys in the fashion of a FDR and an animation that is self-contradictory and thus ends up undermining their own "assumption". And there is ample evidence elswhere to support the claim that it was NOT AA77 that struck the Pentagon.

To shorten it all, just because the HI PERPS "said so", is simply not enough proof that it was AA77 that hit the Pentagon when there is so much evidence to the contarary.

And finally, if IT WASN'T AA77 that hit the Pentagon, there has to be an answer as to where AA77, an AAL B757 flyng under the flight number AA77, on 9/11/2001 actually went. It seems to me that this is what you are saying when you said it blew up...that this is where YOU think that it went...it crashed.

However, there remains the possibility that AA77 dropped below radar coverage and snuck out of the area remaining below radar coverage until it was far enough away at which time it could fly slowly, climb to altitude, remain a primary target, or squawk a VFR code and land at a pre-selected secretive place.

And, some say it was escorted out to sea and blown up to dispose of the aircraft.

None of us know!

And for me, the "coincidence" that just won't go away in my mind remains Burlingame...the Captain of AA77 who two years earlier, was developing plans and strategies for airbourne attacks of the Pentagon while on "Guard Duty" or some form of MILITARY engagement.

It is possible that the HI PERPS' only real "false-flag-flight" that day was AA77 with Burlingame in command all the way. The Air Force can fly whatever "air-vehicle" it wants to wherever it wants to fly to, and do so from land-based or airbourne control platforms...piece of cake in the new millenium...or the old.

Now, before anyone goes crazy here, I AM NOT saying that this is what did happen, I am just saying that the ONLY airliner that was lost to positive radar identification on 9/11/2001 was AA77...and nobody EVER positively re-radar identified it again, and that if it WASN'T AA77 that hit the Pentagon, it could be that IT IS WITHIN THIS PORTION OF THE FLIGHT, where it went out of positive radar contact, where some form of swapping or changeing of destination COULD have taken place.

The point is in all of this that we simply do not KNOW what exactly happened, and that's because the HI PERPS have not been able to prove their "official story".

Love, Peace and Progress...and PAPER BALLOTS ONLY

Robin Hordon

[rob balsamo]

To shorten it all, just because the HI PERPS "said so", is simply not enough proof that it was AA77 that hit the Pentagon when there is so much evidence to the contarary.

Well said...

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Again Robin, thanks so much for that. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You might have already known it, but I just found out here, that the Cleveland terminal was evacuated by the authorities that day, under pretense of a bomb threat. How easy would it be to land 77 at Cleveland and deplane all your assets? Not too difficult.

Or to reboard them onto a large Boeing painted in Contintental Airlines livery that was in the Binghampton area at dawn?

The plot thickens! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)