Dr. Frank Greening Weighs In On Jrefers, 911Myths Contributor and JREFer Idol Options

[chucksheen]

"I’m new to posting on the govt loyalist site but I have been following this forum for quite a while and I have observed how the regular JREFers eagerly DEVOUR each CTist that ventures on to this Conspiracy thread to question the official 9/11 story. It all gets pretty much routine because the JREFers always use one or more of the following modes of attack:

(i) NIST has covered all the bases – you need to refute NIST to win an argument here.
(ii) Taunt the CTist with “where’s your evidence?”
(iii) Question the CTist’s credentials – “Are you a scientist?”; “Are you an engineer?”
(iv) Ask the CTist why there are no peer-reviewed journal articles refuting NIST.
(v) Ask the CTist if they are going to submit an article to a peer-reviewed journal.

When a CTist retreats, the JREFers pass the time patting each other on the back for another debunking job well done and discuss how idiotic that particular CTist was. While this may be a source of entertainment for the JREFers, this type of mutual admiration is not particularly helpful to anyone seeking to understand how the Twin Towers collapsed. In fact, I would say that the JREFers appear to be fixated only on smothering scientific debate under a blanket of NIST, FEMA, Kean, Fox and CNN “Truths”! But as Leonardo da Vinci so aptly states: “Whoever in a discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but rather memory.”

I have worked as a research scientist in industry and academia for MANY years but I do not recall ever witnessing such an endless appeal to authority, by one side in a debate, as I see with the JREFers! Indeed, I find the JREFers more often than not coming across as dogmatic followers of a creed. Thus, ironically they have become a modern band of Inquisitors doling out their autos-da-fe to heretic CTists for simply having the temerity to question NISTIAN authority.

In truth, the NIST Report is seriously flawed in many respects. It is inconsistent and contradictory in the way it treats the tipping of the upper section of each tower. It assumes that global collapse ensues without modeling the collapse. Its fire simulations generate such a wide array of temperature profiles as to be essentially useless. Its assumptions about the loss of thermal insulation are mere speculation. It ignores the important effects of massive releases of corrosive gases in the fires. Its metallurgical analysis of the steel is perfunctory. It ignores evidence (micron sized spheres) for the presence of molten iron in the towers prior to collapse. It mentions sulfidation, which it does not explain, while ignoring chlorination. And finally, NIST still cannot explain the collapse of WTC 7 after 6 years of trying….. This is the JREFers Bible!?!?!?"

Username: Apollo20

http://govtloyalistsite.org/showthread.php?t=78111

Source:

Loose Change Forums:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...wtopic=6811&hl=

TruthAction.org Forums:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php...=asc&highlight=

Thanks 28th, Dr. Frank Greening and everyone else. This is a good puzzle piece for the truth.

This post has been edited by chucksheen: Apr 3 2007, 06:51 PM

[DemolitionCrew]

Saw this earlier, these guys have to be quaking in their boots.

[chucksheen]

I haven't referenced the govt loyalist site and given them credence much if ever but I thought this was worth reading.

This post has been edited by chucksheen: Apr 3 2007, 07:02 PM

[heliweli]

Spent an entire day reading those posts. I don't know if he is Greening or not, but by God he controlled the jreffers from start to finish. I laughed heartily all day reading it. Well worth a look,

This post has been edited by heliweli: Apr 5 2007, 06:52 PM

[painter]

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[chucksheen]

I'm getting an error : Safari can’t open the page “http://govtloyalistsite.org/showthread.php?t=78111” because it can’t find the server “govtloyalistsite.org”. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cleanup.gif)

It's because the word J R E F is filtered and gets changed to "govtloyalist"...

You may have to visit manually.

[rob balsamo]

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It's because the word J R E F is filtered and gets changed to "govtloyalist"...

You may have to visit manually.

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(pssst... painter knows that.. )

[painter]

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[behind]

I have to admit that the first part (that is when they did not knew that it was Greening) in the Greening threat is very funny... well some peole say that I have strange humor...I dont know.