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rob balsamo
post Apr 12 2007, 08:23 PM
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Edit to Add: Dec 17, 2007 UA93 CSV Files


We are now in possession of above files. We are currently analyzing the same. So far from what i have seen, it doesnt look good for the govt story (as usual), nor does it look too good for those who make the excuse that altimeter lag was a factor on a 757 flying 'outside the envelope'.

Just a tease for now... more information will be forthcoming...

Cover letter page 1 of many....

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Jan 15, 2008 edit to add:
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wstutt
post Jan 25 2008, 07:17 PM
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Hi dMole and Rob,

I understand what you are saying about that Excel could be set to display the numbers to different fixed decimal places, however I have written a C# program to compare the files and it shows that the numbers are slightly different in some columns.

I found the contents of the CSV files in the ISO images to be byte by byte identical with each other but with slight differences from Rob's CSV files.

Excel does automatically strip the quotes if they are present when it imports the file so the quotes are not likely to make any difference to anybody in practice.

Here are the columns that I found were different (this results file is in CSV format):

File Name,Column Name,Largest Difference
DCA01MA065_tabAtoE.csv,DO,0.005000114
DCA01MA065_tabAtoE.csv,DP,0.005004883
DCA01MA065_tabAtoE.csv,EX,0.004999995
DCA01MA065_tabAtoE.csv,EY,0.004999995
DCA01MA065_tabAtoE.csv,EZ,0.003999949
DCA01MA065_tabAtoE.csv,FA,0.005000055
DCA01MA065_tabAtoE.csv,FB,0.005000055
DCA01MA065_tabFtoL.csv,N,0.001710176
DCA01MA065_tabFtoL.csv,EN,0.005000003
DCA01MA065_tabFtoL.csv,EW,0.005000025
DCA01MA065_tabMtoT.csv,I,0.004000008
DCA01MA065_tabMtoT.csv,BM,0.005000025
DCA01MA065_tabMtoT.csv,CK,0.005000114
DCA01MA065_tabMtoT.csv,CL,0.005000114
DCA01MA065_tabUtoZ.csv,O,0.005000114

As you can see the differences only occur in the third place after the decimal point so the differences will probably not make any difference to anybody however it would depend on how accurate the numbers are presumed to be.

Regards,
Warren.
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- johndoeX   United 93 Csv File Download   Apr 12 2007, 08:23 PM
- - MichaelMR   This is great news Rob. Can't wait for the res...   Apr 12 2007, 08:39 PM
- - behind   Same here!   Apr 12 2007, 09:10 PM
- - AZ/Watch   bump   Apr 12 2007, 10:16 PM
- - Terrorcell   QUOTE (johndoeX @ Apr 12 2007, 07:23 PM)We ar...   Apr 12 2007, 11:24 PM
- - LizzyTish   QUOTE (johndoeX @ Apr 12 2007, 07:23 PM)altim...   Apr 13 2007, 09:28 AM
- - amazed!   Yeah Rob, keep up the good work.   Apr 13 2007, 09:53 AM
- - johndoeX   RE: United 93 Csv File Download   Apr 14 2007, 08:06 PM
- - chek   Is it possible to tell at this stage how much (if ...   Apr 14 2007, 08:12 PM
- - UnderTow   Remember again, there are TWO distinct seperate da...   Apr 14 2007, 09:22 PM
- - rob balsamo   added csv file download to original post...   Dec 17 2007, 12:32 PM
- - dMole   Excellent! Is there a timestamp "offse...   Dec 17 2007, 06:51 PM
- - UnderTow   QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 17 2007, 05:51 PM)I heard ...   Dec 17 2007, 11:26 PM
- - dMole   Thanks UT for the clarification. To avoid any asp...   Dec 17 2007, 11:51 PM
- - rob balsamo   dmole, The NTSB plotted AA77 one second away from...   Dec 18 2007, 12:24 AM
- - dMole   For anyone investigating the FDR data allegedly fr...   Jan 13 2008, 07:58 AM
- - rob balsamo   Different parameters have different sampling rates...   Jan 13 2008, 08:11 AM
- - stuarthwyman   I post the same question on the other topic too ...   Jan 17 2008, 06:07 PM
- - wstutt   QUOTE (johndoeX @ Apr 12 2007, 07:23 PM)Edit ...   Jan 25 2008, 02:13 AM
- - rob balsamo   Not sure what that means as im not an excel expert...   Jan 25 2008, 02:38 AM
- - wstutt   Hi Rob, I've looked at the files further and ...   Jan 25 2008, 07:11 AM
- - rob balsamo   Thanks Warren, Thats interesting (although not su...   Jan 25 2008, 09:17 AM
- - dMole   Hi Warren, There should be two toolbar buttons fo...   Jan 25 2008, 10:48 AM
- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (dMole @ Jan 25 2008, 09:48 AM)I still ...   Jan 25 2008, 11:37 AM
- - wstutt   Hi dMole and Rob, I understand what you are sayin...   Jan 25 2008, 07:17 PM
- - dMole   Thanks Warren, C-sharp, huh? I knew 2 of his gra...   Jan 25 2008, 08:25 PM
- - rob balsamo   If the files are slightly different, this should b...   Jan 26 2008, 12:23 AM
- - wstutt   Hi dMole and Rob, QUOTE (from dMole) I didn't...   Jan 26 2008, 01:14 AM
- - rob balsamo   Actually.. come to think of it... the files above ...   Jan 26 2008, 01:28 AM
- - wstutt   Hi Rob, QUOTE Even though the differences arent ...   Jan 26 2008, 06:57 AM
- - dMole   The 2 immediate causes of the data differences I c...   Jan 26 2008, 09:13 AM
- - rob balsamo   Keep in mind, both FDR's are reportedly Solid ...   Jan 26 2008, 09:24 AM
- - dMole   Hi Rob, Good points- I've likely seen too man...   Jan 26 2008, 12:34 PM
- - wstutt   Hi dMole, QUOTE Was this an L3 Communications uni...   Jan 26 2008, 04:30 PM
- - stuarthwyman   Hi Dmole! Excuse me please! I've rea...   Jan 26 2008, 06:16 PM
- - dMole   Hello Stuart, I spent quite a while at the Honeyw...   Jan 26 2008, 07:13 PM
- - stuarthwyman   Dmole! Would you like to read what is wright ...   Jan 27 2008, 07:05 AM
- - dMole   Hello Stuart, That is very good information that ...   Jan 27 2008, 06:06 PM


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