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United 93 Csv File Download

rob balsamo
post Apr 12 2007, 08:23 PM
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Edit to Add: Dec 17, 2007 UA93 CSV Files


We are now in possession of above files. We are currently analyzing the same. So far from what i have seen, it doesnt look good for the govt story (as usual), nor does it look too good for those who make the excuse that altimeter lag was a factor on a 757 flying 'outside the envelope'.

Just a tease for now... more information will be forthcoming...

Cover letter page 1 of many....

(IMG:http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/ua93cover.jpg)

Jan 15, 2008 edit to add:
(IMG:http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/NTSB_UA93_Cover_block.jpg)

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post Jan 25 2008, 10:48 AM
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Hi Warren,

There should be two toolbar buttons for "increase decimal" and "decrease decimal" in Excel (just left of the "increase indent" and "decrease indent" buttons, unless that toolbar is turned off in options).

If the cells are text-formatted, you might need to click to highlight the appropriate column and then right click, format cells, [as Number], and adjust the decimal places. (Sorry Mac users, you're on your own with that single mouse button- not my department). There should be a way to strip the double quotes when importing the CSV into Excel, but I didn't see double quotes in the data of either ISO (they usually make things very messy in spreadsheets). Were the double quotes in the column headings maybe?

I saw ".308" in column "DO" of both of the ISO files linked that I just downloaded again. If you look at the very top line (above the column letter headings, but below the toolbar), you should see the "raw" cell contents or formula, regardless of Excel's format and display settings.

Strangely enough, the aal77.com ISO gave me a "read only, locked by another user" error message that the other ISO did not when opening the "A to E.csv" files. This is a common error when working on a network-server spreadsheet (which I'm not supposed to be here :ph43r: ) My virus scanners didn't bark about Excel macros either- strange.

Usually a CSV file doesn't have the control and formatting codes that an XLS file does- I dunno. You'll probably want to save your work as XLS file type to save all the formatting (and I put the graphs in the XLS file too).

I still haven't found my AA77 FDR radar altitude data column yet, but I've been tracking NYC "rodents" this week. I'll try to compare the various FDR files for velocity (since I have USAF 84 RADES radar data for all 4 flights- that should be linked in the UA175 "mach" thread around page 24). You might want to look at the acceleration data for UA93- it is pretty strange. Pandora's Black Box 3 is a great jump-start.

I've got about 2 decades of experience with spreadsheets, going back to the old Lotus days. If you want to pick my brain a little, let me know.

I'll advise if I find some more discrepancies, but I think the FDR team's excellent work and our RADES work has pretty well sunk the OCT. That boat simply won't float.
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- johndoeX   United 93 Csv File Download   Apr 12 2007, 08:23 PM
- - MichaelMR   This is great news Rob. Can't wait for the res...   Apr 12 2007, 08:39 PM
- - behind   Same here!   Apr 12 2007, 09:10 PM
- - AZ/Watch   bump   Apr 12 2007, 10:16 PM
- - Terrorcell   QUOTE (johndoeX @ Apr 12 2007, 07:23 PM)We ar...   Apr 12 2007, 11:24 PM
- - LizzyTish   QUOTE (johndoeX @ Apr 12 2007, 07:23 PM)altim...   Apr 13 2007, 09:28 AM
- - amazed!   Yeah Rob, keep up the good work.   Apr 13 2007, 09:53 AM
- - johndoeX   RE: United 93 Csv File Download   Apr 14 2007, 08:06 PM
- - chek   Is it possible to tell at this stage how much (if ...   Apr 14 2007, 08:12 PM
- - UnderTow   Remember again, there are TWO distinct seperate da...   Apr 14 2007, 09:22 PM
- - rob balsamo   added csv file download to original post...   Dec 17 2007, 12:32 PM
- - dMole   Excellent! Is there a timestamp "offse...   Dec 17 2007, 06:51 PM
- - UnderTow   QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 17 2007, 05:51 PM)I heard ...   Dec 17 2007, 11:26 PM
- - dMole   Thanks UT for the clarification. To avoid any asp...   Dec 17 2007, 11:51 PM
- - rob balsamo   dmole, The NTSB plotted AA77 one second away from...   Dec 18 2007, 12:24 AM
- - dMole   For anyone investigating the FDR data allegedly fr...   Jan 13 2008, 07:58 AM
- - rob balsamo   Different parameters have different sampling rates...   Jan 13 2008, 08:11 AM
- - stuarthwyman   I post the same question on the other topic too ...   Jan 17 2008, 06:07 PM
- - wstutt   QUOTE (johndoeX @ Apr 12 2007, 07:23 PM)Edit ...   Jan 25 2008, 02:13 AM
- - rob balsamo   Not sure what that means as im not an excel expert...   Jan 25 2008, 02:38 AM
- - wstutt   Hi Rob, I've looked at the files further and ...   Jan 25 2008, 07:11 AM
- - rob balsamo   Thanks Warren, Thats interesting (although not su...   Jan 25 2008, 09:17 AM
- - dMole   Hi Warren, There should be two toolbar buttons fo...   Jan 25 2008, 10:48 AM
- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (dMole @ Jan 25 2008, 09:48 AM)I still ...   Jan 25 2008, 11:37 AM
- - wstutt   Hi dMole and Rob, I understand what you are sayin...   Jan 25 2008, 07:17 PM
- - dMole   Thanks Warren, C-sharp, huh? I knew 2 of his gra...   Jan 25 2008, 08:25 PM
- - rob balsamo   If the files are slightly different, this should b...   Jan 26 2008, 12:23 AM
- - wstutt   Hi dMole and Rob, QUOTE (from dMole) I didn't...   Jan 26 2008, 01:14 AM
- - rob balsamo   Actually.. come to think of it... the files above ...   Jan 26 2008, 01:28 AM
- - wstutt   Hi Rob, QUOTE Even though the differences arent ...   Jan 26 2008, 06:57 AM
- - dMole   The 2 immediate causes of the data differences I c...   Jan 26 2008, 09:13 AM
- - rob balsamo   Keep in mind, both FDR's are reportedly Solid ...   Jan 26 2008, 09:24 AM
- - dMole   Hi Rob, Good points- I've likely seen too man...   Jan 26 2008, 12:34 PM
- - wstutt   Hi dMole, QUOTE Was this an L3 Communications uni...   Jan 26 2008, 04:30 PM
- - stuarthwyman   Hi Dmole! Excuse me please! I've rea...   Jan 26 2008, 06:16 PM
- - dMole   Hello Stuart, I spent quite a while at the Honeyw...   Jan 26 2008, 07:13 PM
- - stuarthwyman   Dmole! Would you like to read what is wright ...   Jan 27 2008, 07:05 AM
- - dMole   Hello Stuart, That is very good information that ...   Jan 27 2008, 06:06 PM


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