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Download Aa77 Ntsb Data, DCA01MA064 Source

rob balsamo
post Mar 1 2012, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (VirPil @ Mar 1 2012, 03:24 PM) *
By a way, is TAT and RAM value corresponds to alleged altitude/speed?


TAT and RAM air measurements (along with Static air measurements.. temp and pressure) are used to calculate altitude and speed. So, yes, they will correspond. lol

In fact, we know the pitot-static system was operating normally without error as it corresponds to groundspeeds when calculated. Groundspeed data comes from the Flight Management Computer (FMC), calculated using navigational aids, and is independent of the Pitot-Static system.



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Is it done automatically?


Altimeter setting is not set automatically. The pilots have to set it themselves. You can see this being done during climb and is explained thoroughly in our presentation Flight Of American 77 (starts at 42 min mark), but it is not done during descent in the NTSB animation, although the csv file shows it as being set during descent.

See more here...
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...st&p=992727

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Otherwise one can ask himself - why terrorist that is going to crash listens to METAR and set correct altimeter, moreover he does it on both - capt. and 1st pilot. whistle.gif


Exactly... smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 02:27 AM
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Is this CVS file available for download from any official site in GOV domain (and METAR for FDCA as well)?
(official video is not, as I understand)

I write sort of article in Russian about contradiction between NTSB flight data and NIST report (altitude, bank, pitch), and I don't want anybody will have even a chance deny authenticity of such data.

Thanks.
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post Mar 2 2012, 03:00 AM
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OK, METAR is here: http://vortex.plymouth.edu/sa_parse-u.html ( http://vortex.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen_sa_...dd=11&hh=14 )

P.S. Can I edit my posts after posting?
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post Mar 2 2012, 03:20 AM
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The data is not available on a gov site. You have to request it through Freedom Of Information Act. See more below...

4. Claim - The Information that P4T has analyzed may not be from the NTSB (P4T may have fabricated the information and claims it came from the NTSB)

csv file download and cover letters provided by Undertow
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...hp?showtopic=64

Raw data decode provided by Undertow
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=4574

Animation cover letters/envelope provided by Snowgrouch
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...p?showtopic=375

Animation cover letters provided by Mick Harrison
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=6205

Reserved - More forthcoming

Animation provided by Third party on google video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65...=AA77+Animation

George Washington University NTSB Data
http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/index.htm

NTSB FOIA Website
http://www.ntsb.gov/info/foia_fri.htm

NTSB FOIA Contact - Melba D. Moye
202-314-6000

NTSB FOIA Request form -
http://www.ntsb.gov/pubmail/pubmail.asp


See more here - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7163

You have 5 mins to edit your posts.

As you make more posts, you will gain more access.

The NIST did not do a report on AA77 nor the data. The NTSB animation conflicts with the NTSB csv file in terms of altimeter setting.
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QUOTE (VirPil @ Mar 2 2012, 06:24 AM) *
Thanks for explanation!

I even don't know who they are. biggrin.gif


Try here for example http://govtloyalistsite.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64.

They do nothing but spread malicious lies about Rob Balsamo, lies lies lies and more lies all lies, a few of them in particular are very nasty characters.
There is one who's name starts with a B he is very malicious in spreading his lies, this fellow is very delusional. Take note non of them are pilots none of
them seem to have any expertise in the field of aviation, anything they say is to be taken with a grain of salt, they cannot get a single person who has
any expertise in the field of aviation to back anything they say or claim about this organisation. Rob Balsamo is very good at destroying their lies, he exposes
them for who they really are a pack of faceless cowards who will not agree to a real debate with any real experts.

My apologies Rob but i just had to. Keep up the excellent work you have done in exposing the lies of the official narrative.

9/11 is a lie and everyone knows it.

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QUOTE (UnderTow @ Oct 13 2007, 12:00 AM) *
I think your keyboard is broken.



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By a way, Rod, probably you can even fill lawsuit against NTSB for providing faked data (I guess you paid for it) basing on following :

1. NTSB video contradicts their own FDR data (no baro correction)
2. NTSB data contradicts official story (assuming it's true)- NTSB shows right bank and decreasing pitch in last seconds, while it "should" be opposite, and NTSB reported altitude make such hit impossible.
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post Mar 3 2012, 03:32 AM
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QUOTE (VirPil @ Mar 3 2012, 02:05 AM) *
By a way, Rod,


My name is Rob... with a B.

1st time you called me "Rod", i let it slide as a typo.... 2nd time is lack of attention to detail.



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....probably you can even fill lawsuit against NTSB



I could, how much are you willing to contribute?

Our last lawsuit was thrown out by a panel of Judges which included a relative of Bush, only to sanction the lawyers more than 15,000 dollars.

So, if you can raise the funds to cover such a lawsuit and possible sanctions, let me know and we will pursue it. Until then, we are just trying to keep our little corner of the net online.

Hey, I got an idea, why don't you ask Richard Gage? I heard they made over 300,000 dollars last year.... (and have yet to file a lawsuit or file an affidavit in any court).
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 3 2012, 09:32 AM) *
My name is Rob... with a B.

Sorry Rob. sob.gif

Actually 1st and 2nd time is the same error (I'm not from US, and both names are not familiar to me).
Sorry again, know I remember your name.
QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 3 2012, 09:32 AM) *
Our last lawsuit was thrown out by a panel of Judges which included a relative of Bush, only to sanction the lawyers more than 15,000 dollars.

I'm not familiar with US juridical system as well...
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