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Bush Outlaws War Protest (merged), Citizens Face Full Asset Seizure

LizzyTish
post Jul 18 2007, 10:36 PM
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ENOUGH!!!!! We have to get rid of these people NOW!!!!

Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20070717-3.html

Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq

Message to the Congress of the United States Regarding International Emergency Economic Powers Act

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004. I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(B)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(B)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported,

withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense,

(i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or

(B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people;

(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.

(B) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the

receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose

of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(B) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:

(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;

(B) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

© the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 4. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(B)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(B)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 5. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets

instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.

Sec. 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government, consistent with applicable law. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken.

Sec. 7. Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses, or other forms of administrative action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under 31 C.F.R. chapter V, except as expressly terminated, modified, or suspended by or pursuant to this order.

Sec. 8. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit, or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

July 17, 2007
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So basically.. .what the above says...

Is that Dictator Bush has just granted himself the power to seize property of any US Citizen he determines to be undermining the effort in Iraq through acts of violence or aiding such individuals? He also determines the definition of "acts of violence"? Is a protest now an "act of violence"? Although im sure he considers any protestor an "Enemy Combatant".
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Exactly, JDX. They can pin the 'terrorist' label on anyone they choose. They've checkmated us here. We're backed into a corner with nobody to go to.

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It actually covers a lot and leaves the interpretation pretty wide open. The executive order talks about "aiding or supporting" anyone connected to violence in Iraq or who tries to prevent the economic stabilization of Iraq. It also talks about helping anyone "avoid or evade" detection under this order. So if you contribute to say some Palestinian relief fund that later is accused of supporting "al CIAda" or Hezzbollah, you can have all your sh*t siezed - property, bank accounts, investment accounts, personal property, everything.

Yep, they're coming for us alright. I'm sure at some point protesting the war will be equivocated with "supporting and aiding" the "terrorists" in Iraq. Now that cops typically film protests and demonstrations, all they have to do is identify people afterward, send a list to DHS and next thing you know, you have been dispossessed of everything you thought you "owned."
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I hope this doesn't have anything to do with Cindy Sheehan's arrival in DC next week. ohmy.gif
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Bush Outlaws War Protest - Citizens Face Full Asset Seizure
From Dave Livingston
7-20-7

WELL IT HAS HAPPENED. THIS MANIACAL SON OF A BITCH HAS OUTLAWED ALL WAR PROTEST AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
PASSED INTO LAW JULY 17TH. SINCE CONGRESS IS TOO WEAK-KNEED TO STAND UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING, PERHAPS IT WILL BE LEFT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WILL THIS BEGIN THE CIVIL WAR HERE IN THE UNITED STATES PREDICTED BY JOHN TITOR? READ THE ARTICLE BELOW, "Bush Outlaws All War Protest In The United States"..........best of luck.........dave livingston


In an even greater affront to the American people are the provisions of a law called The Patriot Act, and that should they run afoul of this new law they are forbidden to allow anyone to know about it, and as we can read as reported by the Seattle Times News Service:

"The [Patriot] act also expands the use of National Security Letters, which are a kind of warrant that the Justice Department writes for itself, authorizing its agents to seize such things as records of money movements, telephone calls and Internet visits. Recipients of a National Security Letter are not allowed to tell anyone about them, and so cannot contest them."

It is interesting to note, too, that this is not the first time that the United States has unleashed the brutal power of their government against its citizens to further their war aims and stifle domestic dissent, as during the European conflict of World War I they enacted a law called The Sedition Act of 1918 and which "...forbade Americans to use "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, flag, or armed forces during war."

It is curious to note that after the enactment of this new law there has been no protest by any of the other political leaders in the United States, with the exception of the only Muslim member of the United States Congress, Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, and who compared President Bush to the Nazi War Leader Adolph Hitler by stating the attacks upon the World Trade Center could be likened to the burning of the Reichstag.

Today, as the United States faces an imminent economic collapse, while at the same time its war bill has reached the staggering amount of $648 billion, one of the last freedoms the American people have had to protest their leaders actions against them, and other peoples in the World, has now been taken away from them, the freedom to speak and write in opposition to what is being done to them.

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.", said the great British writer George Orwell, but, and sadly, liberty has been lost to the once free people of the United States who are no longer allowed to tell their leaders, or each other, what they don't want to hear.

With this being so, the American people should, likewise, contemplate their 'new' future, and as, also, stated best by George Orwell, "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."

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New Executive Order Stomps on the Fifth Amendment
"...any (citizen) person who undermines efforts to promote
economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq."

Gambling911.com
7-18-7

Did anyone get the license plate of that Mack truck that ran us over yesterday? By executive order, the Secretary of the Treasury may now seize the property of

The Secretary may make his determination in secret and after the fact. Click here to read this new little gem out of the Bush Administration.

What's it say, you ask? The White House will decide if you are in any way "undermining efforts" in Iraq, or related to Iraq or pretty much anything else, the Treasury Department is authorized to seize your money, property, stocks, etc

Although good in overall notion (stop terrorist funding), the ridiculously broad language in this order takes the 5th amendment, and flushes it down the toilet. As an example, if it appears that if you, say, donate to a charity that the Bush administration determines, without any proof, is trying to undermine the Iraqi government, all of your assets can be frozen. No due process, do not pass go.

The order permits the targeting of those who aid someone else whose assets have been blocked under the order -- wittingly or not. And under Section Five, the government does not have to disclose which organizations are subject to having their assets frozen:

For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.

The scope of the order has raised civil-liberties concerns. "Certainly it is highly constitutionally questionable to empower the government to destroy someone economically without giving notice," says Bruce Fein, a Justice Department official in the Reagan administration. "This is so sweeping it's staggering. I've never seen anything so broad that it expands beyond terrorism, beyond seeking to use violence or the threat of violence to cower or intimidate a population. This covers stabilization in Iraq. I suppose you could issue an executive order about stabilization in Afghanistan as well. And it goes beyond even attempting violence, to cover those who pose 'a significant risk' of violence. Suppose Congress passed a law saying you've committed a crime if there's significant risk that you might commit a crime."

How does the Secretary of the Treasury feel about a t-shirt that says, 'Stop the War?' Is such a T-shirt considered destabilizing?

http://www.gambling911.com/Executive-Order...ent-071907.html

Source: http://www.rense.com/general77/asset.htm

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Right.

The Yoda comment above, with the topic of NYS Constitution Article I, etc. was actually a reply to this post.

Sorry about that chief.
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How about if we have him arested for terrorist activities in NYC and thrown into Gitmo. "Oh, sorry Mr. Pres...there's no habeas corpus for terrorists, remember? You're on your own. Don't drop the soap!"
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QUOTE (LizzyTish @ Jul 20 2007, 04:10 PM)
How about if we have him arested for terrorist activities in NYC and thrown into Gitmo. "Oh, sorry Mr. Pres...there's no habeas corpus for terrorists, remember? You're on your own. Don't drop the soap!"

Actually, the most poetic ending to this nightmare would be a Tappan, NY circa 1780 reprise; starring Bush, Cheney and Tony Blair.
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Love Olbermann - "Go there and fight your war, yourself". yes1.gif

If only we should be so lucky.
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I just got a PM from AZ/Watch, she sent me this message from Connie Fogal

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To all contacts from Connie Fogal, Leader CAP/PAC

Ths executive order of President Bush set out below is another major step in fulfilling the Orwellian world and that of Jack London in "The Iron Heel".

The way to shut down all opposition is to have a means to impoverish the dissenter. It is also language in Canada's antiterrorist legislation. This was the scenario in "1984" and in "The Iron Heel" . The powers' finger anyone they define as terrorist and simply take over their assets putting them in instant poverty.

Under the arrangements of the SPP, Canada is in process of doing everything here that Bush does in the USA.

It is past the time of sitting in the comfortable pew. Speak out while we still can. Fear of losing your property will not protect you or it. Today your property, tomorrow your child, the day after your life. There is no question an elite few have declared war on the masses of dispensible humans.

Unless you are part of that corporate, military, financial elite in occupation or family, you are part of the masses and you are under attack.

The world has hated Germans since WW2. We never excused any German for failing to stand up to Hitler and we never excused them for saying they did not know humans were being burned in ovens, tortured, imprisoned despite the proximity of concentration camps, forced labour humans in striped clothing on their streets, and most horribly, wafting bits of white flakes descending on their streets from the massive ovens next door. It was not just Jews. It was first the German dissenters, and the German Jehovah's witnesses, and the German academics who spoke out. It was not until a year later that the round up of Jews and prisoners of war began- Poles, Russians, etc.

We thought we had defeated fascism with the end of WW2. The fact is they just went into slow mode and now are in control again.

It is no good to cringe and run for the "protection" of silence. We have recent history to help us know that this evil must be clipped at its beginnings. Germans have lived and suffered with their guilt for decades, even those who were very young at the time and were not responsible.

We are all responsible. Look in your mirror today and choose the badge of courage not cowardice. Speak out. Say NO to evil.

Connie Fogal
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(followed by the Executive order that is the subject of this thread)
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QUOTE (LizzyTish @ Jul 18 2007, 09:36 PM)
ENOUGH!!!!!  We have to get rid of these people NOW!!!!

1. For those of you keeping score at home, E.O. 13303 was an act of hypocrisy par excellance for anyone claiming to be "freeing Iraq from a reign of tyranny" since the essence of the Executive Order is a textbook example of "Exercising power, beyond right which no one has a right to" (i.e. Tyranny as Jefferson and the founders knew it).
The Founders, in fact, would most likely spit in our faces for being such idiots at this moment.

2. Article IV of the U.S. Constitution GUARANTEES a republican form of government BECAUSE of the underlying guarantee of NO TYRANNY.

3. The Executive, nor Legislature nor Judiciary, nor all combined, may amend the Constitution; --see Article V,
Reid v. Covert etc.

4. Amendment XIV imputes the obligations assumed by naturalized citizens during their loyalty oath to citizens born in the United States. IOW, every single U.S. Citizen has the duty of "defending the Constitution against ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

5. The first and foremost enemy of the Constitution is in fact domestic in nature.

6. The term used to define the above mentioned first and foremost enemy of the Constitution is "TYRANNY"

7. Thus, as experience hath shown, the perfidious chimp and administration, in CONTINUALLY USING THE CONSTITUTION AS A URINAL PUCK, has in fact repeatedly declared itself a domestic enemy of the state by definition.

And repeating our top story tonight....

"Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!"

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Goodnight and have a pleasant tomorrow.

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John Titor, that is what I like about this place, people open-minded enough to consider anything and everything.

I agree that there is a general feeling of intense negativity for the month of August, lets see if we can get through it.

In the metaphysical world even though I ask God himself if today is the day I'm supposed to ride the Apocalyptic horse, He keeps saying no. Is that the definition of hope?
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post Jul 21 2007, 08:27 AM
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Yes, it is a sign of hope. Curiously, when Bush's paperwork started flying fast and furiously, I started to feel better. They've tipped their hand now, rather than slithering into each change they're making; and they've shown themselves as what they are.

I seriously doubt that any of this stuff has a legal leg to stand on. One man cannot re-write a 200+ year-old set of rules on a whim. I truly believe he's gone way too far now and he's not going to get away with it.
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Hi every one...
(crying with you)

the same to come in... what we can call now : U.S. France
>> http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&ie=.../language_tools

I think people all over the world will get UP and
break this state of madness
before, or maybe 'thanks to' the help of the disruptions due to ecological collapsings coming to US.
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Masters of the world - Strategies Planet gears

see the chapters for 'The UNITED STATES' at half screen
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The invasion of Iraq
Motivations of a total war which divides Maitres of the World, and whose stake largely exceeds Iraq…

Torture in the United States
The “belt of constraint” is a remote-controlled instrument of torture which involves the instantaneous loss of any muscular control. Used on the prisoners of the camp of Guantanamo, its employment is increasingly frequent in the American prisons, and even in front of the courts. An article of Washington Post, published by International Mail

Torture in Iraq
All infos on tortures and maltreatments made by the American army in Iraq, but also in Afghanistan and in Guantanamo.

America of George W.Bush

Why Bush will be re-elected
Bush and her Maffia of racketeers of extreme-right-hand side were ready with very to seize the power. And they will be ready with all to keep it…

An election 2004 as turbid as in 2000
The elections had not taken place yet that already the suspicions accumulated on their organization. The irregularities could have been even more numerous than in 2000, and some of them could be noted by the international press and observers.

In 2008, Terminator!
To complete the work of Bush and to finish putting planet at fire and blood, Schwarzenegger could be Terminator of civilization well….

Secret war counters the environment
After having refused to sign the agreements of Kyoto, authorized oil drillings in a natural reserve of Alaska, and removed all the subsidies with solar energy, Bush will deliver the giant sequoias to the forestry development. Its administration deploys a whole range of strategies to remove the laws of environmental protection by circumventing the Congress, with the contempt of the democracy but for largest many industrialists…

Elections 2000: A perfume of coup d'etat
During his election campaign, Al Gore had promised that it “would work in the interest of the people”, and that it “would attack powerful”. To bar the road to him and to support “their” candidate, George Bush Junior, the maitres of the world organized what resembles extremely a coup d'etat…
Since the election of George W.Bush, never the United States was not as much under the control of the multinationals.

September 11, 2001
The return of the boomerang
The hidden face of the attacks of September 11
The testimony and reflexions of an American coed, the day of the attack
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HEY USA YOU SHOULD NOT LET THIS LAW COME IN ACTIVITY !!!

Why should the PEOPLE of USA not assess about the USA war in Irak ?
otherwise you are treated like terrorists (jail, no more home ...) ?

are you still in democraty ?

is the war on your ground in USA ?
have you been subject to terrorist attacks since the beginning of Irak War (on your ground) ?

Creating this law,
does bush admit that Irak War (and its dark origin in 9/11) was an inside... war ?
'Top 100 zilliardaire families' against People of the world !??!


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this law is an opened-door to governmental terrorism !!!
Creating this law,
does bush admit 9/11's event was an inside job and he was the terrorist ?
 


Are you children or lambs to be treated like that ? (shout your mouth)

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Practically does that mean that, if Bill Gates donates Red Cross and they give logistical help to injured opposition people in Iraq, first Red Cross and second Gates are seized, if Bush decides so?
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