The Ntsb Evidence |

Aug 7 2007, 11:59 PM
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The NTSB Evidence
The FDR is not Documented per any investigative or crime scene procedure The Factual Report (and in reference the CSV Output) directly and factually conflict with the 'Damage Path' A 2nd independent readout of the raw file further supports these conflicts, and adds even more. There is no Serial Number There is no picture There is no final output (see the UA93 Factual Report + others) There is zero documentation The FDR is reported recovered at 3:40AM 9/14/2001 The RAW file is timestamped at 5:45PM 9/13/2001 The NTSB Reports are from Jan-Feb 2002. ~~~~~~~~ I decided to take a few moments and finally collect most everything I've seen over the past year that really does stink to hell and back. |
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Sep 13 2008, 09:52 AM
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The link to the "main" NTSB aviation portal is at:
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/aviation.htm I was particularly interested in the Investigation Guides and Procedures Page: http://www.ntsb.gov/info/inv_guides.htm Major Investigations Manual http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Manuals/Major...tionsManual.pdf Appendices for above http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Manuals/Major...nsManualApp.pdf FDR Handbook http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Manuals/FDR_Handbook.pdf CVR Handbook http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Manuals/CVR_Handbook.pdf NTSB Methodology for Investigating Operator Fatigue http://www.ntsb.gov/info/fatigue_checklist_V%202_0.pdf Jet Engine Problems http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/jet_engine_problems.pdf Responding to an Aircraft Accident (for Police, Public Safety LEO) http://www.ntsb.gov/family/LEO_brochure.pdf ---------------- I got a broken link for the [Accident Database?] Aviation Coding Manual ftp://www.ntsb.gov/avdata/codman.pdf and the Accident Database instructions ftp://www.ntsb.gov/avdata/AAAreadme.txt --------------------------------------------- Other organization investigation links NASA NPR 8621.1B NASA Procedural Requirements for Mishap and Close Call Reporting, Investigating, and Recordkeeping http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/displayDir.cfm...;page_name=main PDF of NASA's above: http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/npg_img/N_PR_8..._8621_001B_.pdf Int'l Civil Aviation Organization http://www.icao.int/ --- For $47.20, one could buy SAE's [Society of Automotive Engineering- likely irrelevant here] "Ethics for Accident Investigation and Reconstruction" at: http://www.sae.org/servlets/productDetail?...CD=J2314_200008 |
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UnderTow The Ntsb Evidence Aug 7 2007, 11:59 PM
Sanders QUOTE (UnderTow @ Aug 8 2007, 12:59 PM)The FD... Aug 8 2007, 03:25 AM
johndoeX QUOTE (Sanders @ Aug 8 2007, 03:25 AM)QUOTE (... Aug 8 2007, 05:22 AM
UnderTow I used the web form, back in Oct2004 iirc.
I did t... Aug 8 2007, 10:19 AM
painter QUOTE (Sanders @ Aug 7 2007, 11:25 PM)QUOTE (... Aug 8 2007, 10:35 AM
UnderTow Here is a picture I made from the UA93 Factual Rep... Aug 8 2007, 10:41 AM
amazed! Thanks for all the effort guys!
If this means... Aug 8 2007, 10:44 AM
UnderTow QUOTE (painter @ Aug 8 2007, 10:35 AM)Someone... Aug 8 2007, 10:45 AM
Ashoka It's strange
The American 77.fdr downloaded f... Aug 8 2007, 12:27 PM
UnderTow Yep. I know.
A 16Hour difference, +-1 depending o... Aug 8 2007, 01:42 PM
Ashoka Ok I've spoken to a friend. He told me that:
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UnderTow Yes. Which is why I put the zip file up there. The... Aug 9 2007, 09:00 AM
johndoeX Hey guys... John Farmer may weigh in here...
Can ... Aug 10 2007, 07:10 AM
Ashoka I'm uploading the ISO image of the Dvd receive... Aug 10 2007, 07:37 AM
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