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The Ntsb Evidence

UnderTow
post Aug 7 2007, 11:59 PM
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The NTSB Evidence
The FDR is not Documented per any investigative or crime scene procedure
The Factual Report (and in reference the CSV Output) directly and factually conflict with the 'Damage Path'
A 2nd independent readout of the raw file further supports these conflicts, and adds even more.
There is no Serial Number
There is no picture
There is no final output (see the UA93 Factual Report + others)
There is zero documentation
The FDR is reported recovered at 3:40AM 9/14/2001
The RAW file is timestamped at 5:45PM 9/13/2001
The NTSB Reports are from Jan-Feb 2002.


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I decided to take a few moments and finally collect most everything I've seen over the past year that really does stink to hell and back.
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post Sep 13 2008, 09:52 AM
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The link to the "main" NTSB aviation portal is at:

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/aviation.htm

I was particularly interested in the Investigation Guides and Procedures Page:

http://www.ntsb.gov/info/inv_guides.htm

Major Investigations Manual
http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Manuals/Major...tionsManual.pdf

Appendices for above
http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Manuals/Major...nsManualApp.pdf

FDR Handbook
http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Manuals/FDR_Handbook.pdf

CVR Handbook
http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Manuals/CVR_Handbook.pdf

NTSB Methodology for Investigating Operator Fatigue
http://www.ntsb.gov/info/fatigue_checklist_V%202_0.pdf

Jet Engine Problems
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/jet_engine_problems.pdf

Responding to an Aircraft Accident (for Police, Public Safety LEO)
http://www.ntsb.gov/family/LEO_brochure.pdf
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I got a broken link for the [Accident Database?] Aviation Coding Manual
ftp://www.ntsb.gov/avdata/codman.pdf

and the Accident Database instructions
ftp://www.ntsb.gov/avdata/AAAreadme.txt
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Other organization investigation links

NASA NPR 8621.1B NASA Procedural Requirements for Mishap and Close Call Reporting, Investigating, and Recordkeeping
http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/displayDir.cfm...;page_name=main

PDF of NASA's above:
http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/npg_img/N_PR_8..._8621_001B_.pdf

Int'l Civil Aviation Organization
http://www.icao.int/
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For $47.20, one could buy SAE's [Society of Automotive Engineering- likely irrelevant here] "Ethics for Accident Investigation and Reconstruction" at:
http://www.sae.org/servlets/productDetail?...CD=J2314_200008
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- UnderTow   The Ntsb Evidence   Aug 7 2007, 11:59 PM
- - Sanders   QUOTE (UnderTow @ Aug 8 2007, 12:59 PM)The FD...   Aug 8 2007, 03:25 AM
- - johndoeX   QUOTE (Sanders @ Aug 8 2007, 03:25 AM)QUOTE (...   Aug 8 2007, 05:22 AM
- - UnderTow   I used the web form, back in Oct2004 iirc. I did t...   Aug 8 2007, 10:19 AM
- - painter   QUOTE (Sanders @ Aug 7 2007, 11:25 PM)QUOTE (...   Aug 8 2007, 10:35 AM
- - UnderTow   Here is a picture I made from the UA93 Factual Rep...   Aug 8 2007, 10:41 AM
- - amazed!   Thanks for all the effort guys! If this means...   Aug 8 2007, 10:44 AM
- - UnderTow   QUOTE (painter @ Aug 8 2007, 10:35 AM)Someone...   Aug 8 2007, 10:45 AM
- - Ashoka   It's strange The American 77.fdr downloaded f...   Aug 8 2007, 12:27 PM
- - UnderTow   Yep. I know. A 16Hour difference, +-1 depending o...   Aug 8 2007, 01:42 PM
- - Ashoka   Ok I've spoken to a friend. He told me that: ...   Aug 9 2007, 05:35 AM
- - UnderTow   Yes. Which is why I put the zip file up there. The...   Aug 9 2007, 09:00 AM
- - johndoeX   Hey guys... John Farmer may weigh in here... Can ...   Aug 10 2007, 07:10 AM
- - Ashoka   I'm uploading the ISO image of the Dvd receive...   Aug 10 2007, 07:37 AM
- - UnderTow   QUOTE (UnderTow @ Aug 7 2007, 10:59 PM)The NT...   Nov 29 2007, 09:58 PM
- - Voltaire   Others guys notice the same errors : Pentagon 9/1...   May 19 2008, 10:07 AM
- - Oceans Flow   What's interesting about that rense article is...   May 19 2008, 12:47 PM
|- - Voltaire   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 19 2008, 05:47 P...   May 19 2008, 03:59 PM
- - Skeptik   Sorry guys. Just realised it is discussed lower do...   May 20 2008, 10:15 AM
- - UnderTow   QUOTE (UnderTow @ Aug 7 2007, 10:59 PM)The NT...   Aug 26 2008, 10:49 PM
- - dMole   The link to the "main" NTSB aviation por...   Sep 13 2008, 09:52 AM


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