Deliberate Misrepresentation of Evidence, Videos carefully crafted to be easily debunked
Aug 17 2007, 07:46 PM
Joined: 17-August 07
Member No.: 1,736
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU READ THIS THREAD FIRST.
Hi painter, and everybody,
I am a new member. I am not a pilot, and I am no scientist by a long shot either. I promise to do my very best, to be both respectful and patient though, and I think I have something to offer.
A lot of people have been extremely turned off, to the ideas Fred and Killtown have been misrepresenting and purposely presenting very poorly, and I hope it is not too late to help undo the damage they have done.
I sure wish I had read, the thread this split off from, quite a bit sooner!
I was still very new to the ideas Fred and company were presenting, and I had just finished watching his 911 Octopus movie, for like the 10th time, when I finally joined their forum just a couple of months ago.
Back when I was a member of Killtown's forum, before they banned me for political reasons, I remember that Fred started a thread about what happened here.
As usual when one of them gets banned, they go to their forum and begin bragging about being banned, by the "nasty fascists" at LC and Pilots etc, and they then rave on and on about how 'they' don't ban people for political reasons.
The hell they don't though. They banned me, because I noticed this pattern, and I began asking them about the other HUGE PR blunders they ALL make on a regular basis also.
I also believe that the videos Fred has been making, are carefully crafted to be easily debunked later, when whoever oversees their modified limited hangout operation [cough Rick Siegel] gives them the word.
Please go here, and read my Rick Siegel's Lunatic Fringe: Todays NAZIS smear you as antisemtic thread on the Loose Change Forum about this.
Odd indeed, how the "nasty fascists" at LC, have left it up for a few days now. But if it's gone, then please go to my Youtube channel, linked to in my signature, and then read my comments section etc.
Thank you for letting me have my say. I hope I can be of service here.
Best to all of you,
This post has been edited by Natasha: Aug 18 2007, 01:34 AM
Aug 18 2007, 04:29 PM
Joined: 13-September 06
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QUOTE (Natasha @ Aug 19 2007, 05:01 AM)
QUOTE (Sanders @ Aug 18 2007, 12:57 AM)
QUOTE (painter @ Aug 18 2007, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (Natasha @ Aug 17 2007, 09:22 PM)
OK. Thanks painter.
Lets see if this thread dies a lonely death now. I think it may. What do I know though? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
LoL. I don't think that is going to happen. :ph43r:
I have to agree with painter that it's better not to jump to conclusions. Intent and motivation is very difficult to gauge, and there is usually at least one more likely scenario than one can imagine. Like trying to catch wild geese in a house of mirrors. Still, interesting thread.
I missed your post somehow last night. Please pardon me. I was even more tired then than I am now after a few hours of sleep.
I have been reading your posts, and I appreciate both your carefulness and your objectivity. I will try to emulate you more in future. For really, I feel 'much better now' (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , after getting this stuff out there. I have really been so worried, that what I believe to be a crafty ploy, would succeed in burying the real truth.
I believe that exposing media involvement in the conspiracy, their use of fake plane vids and false witnesses, is of tremendous importance. For one thing the "plane" videos are the only remaining articles of tangible evidence, and nothing will speed the nations recovery from the spell they have been so long under, than to expose the media's role in the 911 conspiracy.
Why else does counter-intelligence, that's disclosure if think about it, fight so hard against this? Why else have they somehow, drugs hypnosis?, reduced ex MI5 truther David Shayler to a rambling fool now claiming to be the messiah after he began teaching npt?
One thing remains clear. The plane videos depict airplanes, doing things that are simply impossible, and so those videos are far more than suspect.
We are all just singular, seemingly insignificant people. But we can be powerful - India was freed from British rule by a single man. We can effect change by sticking to our guns, refusing to cooperate (that includes refusing to get into brawls as they would wish), doing our homework and spreading the word. What else can we do? The courts are against us, the media is against us. We have to educate everyone - one person at a time. Here's what we have going for us though - the numbers increase exponentially if we do our job and don't fall into the traps that have been set for us.
Thank you for your posts! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)
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