Deliberate Misrepresentation of Evidence, Videos carefully crafted to be easily debunked Options

[Natasha]

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU READ THIS THREAD FIRST.



Hi painter, and everybody,


I am a new member. I am not a pilot, and I am no scientist by a long shot either. I promise to do my very best, to be both respectful and patient though, and I think I have something to offer.

A lot of people have been extremely turned off, to the ideas Fred and Killtown have been misrepresenting and purposely presenting very poorly, and I hope it is not too late to help undo the damage they have done.

I sure wish I had read, the thread this split off from, quite a bit sooner!

I was still very new to the ideas Fred and company were presenting, and I had just finished watching his 911 Octopus movie, for like the 10th time, when I finally joined their forum just a couple of months ago.

Back when I was a member of Killtown's forum, before they banned me for political reasons, I remember that Fred started a thread about what happened here.

As usual when one of them gets banned, they go to their forum and begin bragging about being banned, by the "nasty fascists" at LC and Pilots etc, and they then rave on and on about how 'they' don't ban people for political reasons.

The hell they don't though. They banned me, because I noticed this pattern, and I began asking them about the other HUGE PR blunders they ALL make on a regular basis also.

I also believe that the videos Fred has been making, are carefully crafted to be easily debunked later, when whoever oversees their modified limited hangout operation [cough Rick Siegel] gives them the word.

Please go here, and read my Rick Siegel's Lunatic Fringe: Todays NAZIS smear you as antisemtic thread on the Loose Change Forum about this.

Odd indeed, how the "nasty fascists" at LC, have left it up for a few days now. But if it's gone, then please go to my Youtube channel, linked to in my signature, and then read my comments section etc.


Thank you for letting me have my say. I hope I can be of service here.

Best to all of you,

Natasha

This post has been edited by Natasha: Aug 18 2007, 01:34 AM

[Natasha]

Hi painter, (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I am not ignoring you. I just have to put this out while I can. I will get to your above post soon.




Fred has a new video out.


The CIA is trying to establish, by subtly anchoring the idea, that the Hezarkhania 'ghost plane' video is totally fake, buildings and all. The CIA is building up a sh*t storm of allegations about Hezarkhania's supposed Iranian terrorists connections, while at the same time, implicating Carmen Taylor who took matching pics on 9/11.

Both Hezarkhania and Carmen Taylor are likely CIA assets, who are now being set up as patsies, as agency assets so often are. The CIA is helping the nWO make a case for WAR on IRAN. The new BSreg Fred generated disinfo and controversy, now surrounding the Hezarkhania video and Carmen Taylor's pictures, are apparently, very IMO, an essential part of this CIA COINTELPRO. Once again, I believe BSreg Fred, is helping them with this.

Please watch the videos, then read on, before making your judgement. I believe Fred's latest video is a 'build up' upon the CIA propaganda video he narrated, which claims that Hezarkhania supports a terrorist group in IRAN.

IRAN WAR PUSHING propaganda video BSreg Fred narrated.

Fred's new video: Shock and Awe: CNN Fake is not Real

I reject these latest 'suggestions' the nWO seeks to implant in the minds of 911 investigators.

Fred says that rejecting his 'suggestion', that even the buildings in the Hezarkhania video are fake, means that you are a disinfo agent who is defending the MSM, and he further 'suggests' that we are trying to cover up the fact that FCS exists and was likely used on 911 to fake the 911 media PSYOP. Well that is really, so damned LC, so outright "truther" of Fred.


I believe the nWO planned the 911 PSYOP for years. Did they really try to make it believable though? Is it unreasonable, to conclude that they wanted people, or at least us, to realize that the media works with the military?

Was the nWO military media interface team really just incompetent?

Is the 911 media PSYOP, really just very flawed, as Fred continuously keeps suggesting? Fred has been reinforcing that 'suggestion' all along, and you can see him do it in nearly all of his videos.

Did the nWO military and Intel, want us to see, the incredible power they have over the mind of the masses? I believe the answer is yes.

I also believe the following.

No planes = TRUE ... MSM complicity = TRUE ... FCS is real = TRUE ... Fred doubters are disinfo agents = FALSE FALSE FALSE

The entire 911 movement is a nWO managed PSYOP = TRUE

Why is the nWO 911 PSYOP so obvious to so many people? Whether they believe in 'no plane' and media complicity or not, a significant percentage of people have seen through the PSYOP.

Polls show, that most people have grave doubts about 911, and a significant percentage of people, all over the world, firmly believe 911 was perpetrated by the Bush administration.

Is it unwise, even foolish, to think that the nWO perpetrators of the 911 PSYOP, are such bumbling fools as BSreg Fred continuously suggests in his videos and posts? I believe the answer is NO, and perhaps that suggestion is another important part of of their manged 911 "truth movement" PSYOP.


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Genghis also has a new video out today.


I do not believe Genghis to be anything like Fred, and I believe his new video is just incredibly good and very helpful.

The new Genghis video: 911 hypnosis


Genghis and I have had a falling out, over my stance on BSreg FRED, as the exchange below in his Youtube comments make clear.


Natashathompson (1 hour ago)
Brilliant Genghis, just brilliant.

They planned this for year; and yet did they really try to make this believable? It is unreasonable to think they wanted people to realize the media works with the military? Did they want us to see the power they have over the mind of the masses? I believe the answer is yes.
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Natashathompson (1 hour ago)
Fred suggests that rejecting his idea, that even the buildings in the Hezarkhania video are fake, means you are a disinfo agent defending the MSM and trying to cover up FCS. That is, so LC, so "truther". I reject the latest suggestion the nWO is trying to implant in the minds of 911 investigators. No planes = TRUE ... MSM complicity = TRUE ... FCS is real = TRUE ... Fred doubters are disinfo = FALSE ...

The entire 911 movement is a nWO managed PSYOP = TRUE
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genghis6199 (59 minutes ago)
first and last warning natasha. no more gossip. stick to the facts and research. your current war on everyone will find no backing here.
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Natashathompson (29 minutes ago)
Genghis, come on now. Have you seen Fred's new video? It is a fact that he accuses us of that, and I am blocked by Fred from commenting. Is my response really gossip? Do you really believe that Genghis. Please email me.
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genghis6199 (24 minutes ago)
fred's a great researcher. he's done a lot of great work. i can't remember one thing you've ever done. stop bitching and throwing words like psy op around. it's a shame to see someone with a brain act like an idiot
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Natashathompson (26 minutes ago)
And please Genghis. This is not a "war on everyone". I have no problem with you, for example, though we disagree on some things.
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Natashathompson (19 minutes ago)
Genghis come on. Just because I don't make videos doesn't make a "do nothing" or worthless. The MSM makes videos too, and that doesn't automatically make
them good, now does it?
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genghis6199 (11 minutes ago)
talk about the video or go away. you brought this up in the open. you bitched on every forum you could . i've had a gutful. one more comment about another researcher and i'm done with you. take a breath and re-evaluate.
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genghis6199 (10 minutes ago)
i seriously can't believe you went whinging to the loose change bitches
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Natashathompson (2 minutes ago)
smile ... I didn't go "whining to the loose change bitches" Genghis. I just had to post it somewhere. I am surprised, they haven't deleted it and banned me, like KT did to me on his forum for questioning what was going on.

Please don't toe their party line Genghis. Please stay independent.
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Natashathompson (8 minutes ago)
I am sure the nWO used FCS. I had no problem with Fred saying that in his 911 Octopus movie at all.

What I do have a problem with, is Fred's new statement, that even the buildings in the Hezarkhania video are fake, and his pronouncement that anyone doubting that is a disinfo agent or stupid.
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genghis6199 (3 minutes ago)
enough. you were warned. for the record i think christianity is the biggest losers' psy op of them all.
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OK Genghis. Block me then. I contradict the established movement order. Maybe you should burn me at the stake for being Christian too.
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There at the last, is what I tried to post, but I am now blocked from commenting.

For the record I think Genghis is a good guy, a bit temperamental, but a good man doing the best he can. I believe he is wrestling with his conscience, at this very moment, and he is just not sure what to think right now.

Time will tell.