Deliberate Misrepresentation of Evidence, Videos carefully crafted to be easily debunked
Aug 17 2007, 07:46 PM
Joined: 17-August 07
Member No.: 1,736
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU READ THIS THREAD FIRST.
Hi painter, and everybody,
I am a new member. I am not a pilot, and I am no scientist by a long shot either. I promise to do my very best, to be both respectful and patient though, and I think I have something to offer.
A lot of people have been extremely turned off, to the ideas Fred and Killtown have been misrepresenting and purposely presenting very poorly, and I hope it is not too late to help undo the damage they have done.
I sure wish I had read, the thread this split off from, quite a bit sooner!
I was still very new to the ideas Fred and company were presenting, and I had just finished watching his 911 Octopus movie, for like the 10th time, when I finally joined their forum just a couple of months ago.
Back when I was a member of Killtown's forum, before they banned me for political reasons, I remember that Fred started a thread about what happened here.
As usual when one of them gets banned, they go to their forum and begin bragging about being banned, by the "nasty fascists" at LC and Pilots etc, and they then rave on and on about how 'they' don't ban people for political reasons.
The hell they don't though. They banned me, because I noticed this pattern, and I began asking them about the other HUGE PR blunders they ALL make on a regular basis also.
I also believe that the videos Fred has been making, are carefully crafted to be easily debunked later, when whoever oversees their modified limited hangout operation [cough Rick Siegel] gives them the word.
Please go here, and read my Rick Siegel's Lunatic Fringe: Todays NAZIS smear you as antisemtic thread on the Loose Change Forum about this.
Odd indeed, how the "nasty fascists" at LC, have left it up for a few days now. But if it's gone, then please go to my Youtube channel, linked to in my signature, and then read my comments section etc.
Thank you for letting me have my say. I hope I can be of service here.
Best to all of you,
This post has been edited by Natasha: Aug 18 2007, 01:34 AM
Aug 20 2007, 05:28 PM
Group: Valued Member
Joined: 14-August 06
From: Baton Rouge, LA
Member No.: 5
I really hope you do not allow NPT discussions to be forbidden here.
Please, consider this, yet once again.
A free society not only allows free speech, it upholds and defends it, even holding it as a cherished virtue which sets free societies apart from all others.
What today is considered false by common knowledge, and rejected as heresy within science, as if science were a religious orthodoxy, does not but degrade common knowledge to be merely but common, and science itself to mere dogma.
Please do not allow such a grave error to degrade this august body.
Well, Ms. Natasha it's not to me alone to allow/disallow NPT discussions here. What the staff is considering, given the recent attacks by some of the knuckleheads from that camp, is that NPT discussions are not allowed without some new evidence to support or refute the NPT theory.
I understand all about free speech, but given the attacks of the likes of Fred, Dale Connor, etc., we're being cautious and "wary." Let me also add that you have been exemplary in your NPT posting here. You present the evidence you have with some assessments about that. That we have no problem with. But goobers that come here to disrupt, antagonize and fight will be given the bum's rush to the ban door in short order.
I also appreciate the paradigm shifts that have occurred in several fields of scientific, economic and other fields of study. Yes, those who see a more accurate interpretation in the beginning are seen as the kooks, crackpots and conspiracy nuts before the acceptance by the general populace takes place.
We are not trying to put you or any other serious researcher "in the corner" here. Just trying to keep the bozos and trouble makers from dirtying up the place. Hope this reassures you of your concerns.
Cary (no "e")
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