Deliberate Misrepresentation of Evidence, Videos carefully crafted to be easily debunked Options

[Natasha]

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU READ THIS THREAD FIRST.



Hi painter, and everybody,


I am a new member. I am not a pilot, and I am no scientist by a long shot either. I promise to do my very best, to be both respectful and patient though, and I think I have something to offer.

A lot of people have been extremely turned off, to the ideas Fred and Killtown have been misrepresenting and purposely presenting very poorly, and I hope it is not too late to help undo the damage they have done.

I sure wish I had read, the thread this split off from, quite a bit sooner!

I was still very new to the ideas Fred and company were presenting, and I had just finished watching his 911 Octopus movie, for like the 10th time, when I finally joined their forum just a couple of months ago.

Back when I was a member of Killtown's forum, before they banned me for political reasons, I remember that Fred started a thread about what happened here.

As usual when one of them gets banned, they go to their forum and begin bragging about being banned, by the "nasty fascists" at LC and Pilots etc, and they then rave on and on about how 'they' don't ban people for political reasons.

The hell they don't though. They banned me, because I noticed this pattern, and I began asking them about the other HUGE PR blunders they ALL make on a regular basis also.

I also believe that the videos Fred has been making, are carefully crafted to be easily debunked later, when whoever oversees their modified limited hangout operation [cough Rick Siegel] gives them the word.

Please go here, and read my Rick Siegel's Lunatic Fringe: Todays NAZIS smear you as antisemtic thread on the Loose Change Forum about this.

Odd indeed, how the "nasty fascists" at LC, have left it up for a few days now. But if it's gone, then please go to my Youtube channel, linked to in my signature, and then read my comments section etc.


Thank you for letting me have my say. I hope I can be of service here.

Best to all of you,

Natasha

This post has been edited by Natasha: Aug 18 2007, 01:34 AM

[Natasha]

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Please watch these two brief videos. I believe Fred's latest video is a 'build up' upon the CIA propaganda video he earlier narrated, which claims that Hezarkhani supports a terrorist group in IRAN. Just wait and see, how this operation in progress, will yield results enabling the next Figurehead In Chief to make a case for WAR on Iran.
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Fred/bsregestratioin repeats himself over and over and over again. Because the audio is different, because he couldn't find the location from which the video was taken, because the NIST says it was taken on the ground -- this PROVES that the video is "FAKE". Hmm hmm hmm. Then he goes on to say that those drawing lines on jpgs are defending the role of the media on 9/11 and not wanting to look at FCS, etc., etc.

f*ck YOU FRED.

PROOF consists of a preponderance of evidence that leads to a reasonable conclusion. That an audio track is used by one video editor and not another does not prove that a video is CGI. It is possible, not conclusive. That NIST says the video was taken from the ground -- I'm even AMAZED that you would bring that into your argument. Since when do you agree in any way with what NIST has to say? They are a lying government agency whose obvious function is to HIDE THE TRUTH. Hey! IS FRED PROTECTING NIST AND GIVING THEM CREDIBILITY??? <<<Example of a bull sh*t argument which is what all of Fred's "arguments" are. Just BS. Yeah, we've been drawing lines on jpgs because we're not in NY and what we found was fairly precise, looks to me like. HEY FRED, when you went out on the ferry to test that as a possible location -- did you take any video??? Did you try and find the exact spot from the ferry top deck? Did you REALLY?? Show us the video. And, Fred, did you take into account that trees GROW? Just curious because you never mention it. How odd that you don't. Maybe Fred is against trees!! That's it, Fred hates trees and wants us to think they never grow. MAYBE THE TREES ARE ARTIFICIAL!!!

Now, moving on to this INSULT that we DEFEND the f*cking corporate media or that we don't want to look at the role of the media in 9/11 or FCS -- you know what, Fred. I believe that YOU are the one who is trying to obscure the role of the media and FCS by putting out a CLAIM which has NOT BEEN SUBSTANTIATED but which you say IS substantiated by your shoddy logic and half-assed investigating. SO, Fred, you BURY THE BONE, you take the thing that is VERY VERY VERY important -- the very thing you name, FCS, media, military control of media -- and wrap it up in BULL sh*t CLAIMS that no one can take seriously and then ATTACK AND TELL LIES about those who try to show that that specific CLAIM has NOT been SUBSTANTIATED by the sloppy logic and evidence you provide. For you, Fred, it is all BLAME BLAME BLAME. Set up strawmen to knock down because your SPECIFIC claim is NOT substantiated. But of course you SAY it is like about a DOZEN times in your f*cking video. Look into my video! YOU are getting Sleepy!! YOU will believe ANYTHING I tell you over and over and over again. I will sell you BULL sh*t wrapped around DIAMONDS so that you'll think the DIAMONDS are BULL sh*t too.

FRED -- if you are sincere then you will make an educational video that talks SOLELY about FCS and how the media broadcast flow CAN be interrupted by the military -- how they CAN generate on-the-fly CGI fakery. Full Spectrum Domenance using the corporate media to force people to WITNESS things that MAY (underscore MAY) not be true! Leave out all the rest of the BULL sh*t and just educate us about the FACTS and STOP insulting and lying about the rest of us out here who are doing the best we can with what we've got. OK?

FRED, if you don't do this then I'm going to have to agree with Natasha that YOU ARE AN AGENT who is wrapping TRUTH up in a DISINGENIOUS package in such a way that rational people WILL NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. Just educate us about FCS and manipulated media and leave the rest of the UNSUBSTANTIATED CRAP out of it. Oh, and GET OVER YOURSELF! You are so f*cking arrogant -- like YOU OWN the god damned truth -- the MOST IMPORTANT TRUTH that none of the rest of us are intelligent enough to grasp. Arrogant son of a rat bastard. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blech.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blech.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blech.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wall.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wall.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wall.gif)

Note: I'm quite aware that if even some part of the above was posted in response to a member of this forum I would have to be given a warning. So, guess what! I'm going to give MYSELF a warning!

PAINTER: Don't you ever ever ever insult a member of this forum like that again!!!

painter: "Oh, but please, sir! FRED/bsregestration IS NOT A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM! His slimy ass crack isn't ALLOWED to post here!"

PAINTER: Well, then, I'll only give you ONE warning this time. But don't let it happen again in this forum. You should know better than that!!! Clean up your act or next time, you'll get (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/banned1.gif)

painter: (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/crybaby2.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/truce.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/truce.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/pilotfly.gif)

BRAVO!!!


swoon ... [thud]


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This post has been edited by painter: Aug 23 2007, 05:23 AM