Deliberate Misrepresentation of Evidence, Videos carefully crafted to be easily debunked
Aug 17 2007, 07:46 PM
Joined: 17-August 07
Member No.: 1,736
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU READ THIS THREAD FIRST.
Hi painter, and everybody,
I am a new member. I am not a pilot, and I am no scientist by a long shot either. I promise to do my very best, to be both respectful and patient though, and I think I have something to offer.
A lot of people have been extremely turned off, to the ideas Fred and Killtown have been misrepresenting and purposely presenting very poorly, and I hope it is not too late to help undo the damage they have done.
I sure wish I had read, the thread this split off from, quite a bit sooner!
I was still very new to the ideas Fred and company were presenting, and I had just finished watching his 911 Octopus movie, for like the 10th time, when I finally joined their forum just a couple of months ago.
Back when I was a member of Killtown's forum, before they banned me for political reasons, I remember that Fred started a thread about what happened here.
As usual when one of them gets banned, they go to their forum and begin bragging about being banned, by the "nasty fascists" at LC and Pilots etc, and they then rave on and on about how 'they' don't ban people for political reasons.
The hell they don't though. They banned me, because I noticed this pattern, and I began asking them about the other HUGE PR blunders they ALL make on a regular basis also.
I also believe that the videos Fred has been making, are carefully crafted to be easily debunked later, when whoever oversees their modified limited hangout operation [cough Rick Siegel] gives them the word.
Please go here, and read my Rick Siegel's Lunatic Fringe: Todays NAZIS smear you as antisemtic thread on the Loose Change Forum about this.
Odd indeed, how the "nasty fascists" at LC, have left it up for a few days now. But if it's gone, then please go to my Youtube channel, linked to in my signature, and then read my comments section etc.
Thank you for letting me have my say. I hope I can be of service here.
Best to all of you,
This post has been edited by Natasha: Aug 18 2007, 01:34 AM
Aug 26 2007, 02:11 PM
Joined: 13-September 06
Member No.: 49
It's VERY interesting that you mention the Wizard of Oz, FfG.
The Wizard of Oz was in fact a thinly disguised commentary on the power behind the curtain, written just as members of the infamous families (Rockefeller, Morgan, Rothschild, Shiff, Warburg, Harriman) were executing the coup that has led ultimately to 9/11 and all of us being here debating the "No Plane Theory", most probably a disinfo campaign (even if true to some extent), and most likely instigated from somewhere inside the CIA or DoD. Where did the DoD and CIA come from? They were created in 1948 by the Council on Foreign Relations, a group set up by the Bankers and Monopolists that the Wizard of Oz commentary derived from. (! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wall.gif) )
I'm only posting this because I feel that the focus is always in the wrong place. Were there planes? Were there no planes? Why is no one focused on who the perps are? I have done a lot of research on this, and would be happy to continue it if I had some help. It is truly a topic too big for any one person to tackle. Judging from what everyone posts about though, no one seems interested lately.
Back to NPT, what if it was a type of plane that we have no knowlege of, smaller than a Boeing 7x7, beefed up and complete with DU nose and wing-edges to insure penetration of the towers, and disguised in various videos via real images of a Boeing inserted in it's place? No one can say that it is not possible, it is entirely possible. I suspect that the truth might in fact resemble this scenario because A), I don't think a stock Boeing could penetrate the steel-framed buildings that easily, B ), I know the technology exists to pull it off, C) because there was no good reason for the planes to be flying that fast unless they were denser (weight vs. lift) than conventional planes and D) because there is a disinfo campaign being waged and I am used to successful disinfo campaigns having a thread of truth at their core (just like the "terror threat"). I've posted practically the same thing several times in many threads over the last couple days, and I apologize for the repetition. But I think it's important -
Thank you, Natasha, your posts are far more educational to me than could be possible vise-versa!
QUOTE (Oceans Flow)
Anyone who is respectful and sincere is welcome here. Anybody can be a part of the family. We don't have to all agree on everything.
Amen to that (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif)
BY THE WAY! Natasha, it's no mere coincidence that TOTO is the root of the word "Totally". Toto, in the Wizard of Oz, represents us - the innocent masses, totality. In latin, "toto".
The tin-man represents the working class - turned into robots by factory production.
The scarecrow lacks a brain, but get's "educated" when he recieves a diploma, a piece of paper (ironically, throughout the story it is the scarecrow's common sense that prevails - he just doesn't have the document to show he has a brain)
The lion, well, courage is the unknown in this never-ending story.
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