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Plane Sized Holes And No Planes, Reconciling the Evidence with NPT

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post Aug 25 2007, 10:50 PM
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People questioning No Plane Theory quite often point to the plane sized holes that so obviously scarred the impact zones of the World Trade Center Towers.

Heres an illustration of the impact damage that occurred to the the North face of WTC1:
(IMG:http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhatAirplanes/WhatImage2.jpg)

Beams have been scarred, pushed in, and in some instances, apparently knocked out. There's a sizable amount of damage and this would not be consistent with the punch in hole of a Tomahawk Penetrator for example.

But if in accordance with NPT there weren't any planes, and the holes couldn't have been made by the missiles that some NPT advocates suggest actually caused the explosions, then what could have made the holes?

Well the disintegration of 1,000,000 tons worth of Scrapers had to be the result of some massive and skillful application of destructive force, whatever the agency of that force might have been. Making a couple of plane sized holes, timed to coordinate with missile impact, would have been merely a side project for the explosive experts on board for a big job like that.

C-4 would be the very best way to control the effect. C-4 is a substance the consistency of modeling clay. It is made by combining RDX (Royal Demolition Explosive) with a polyisobutylene binder and a di(2-ethylhexyl)sebacate plasticizer to make it malleable, along with a tiny amount of motor oil.

(IMG:http://www.ribbands.co.uk/images/prodimgs/C4.jpg)

The C-4 material needs the application of a detonator. This can then be used with coordinated precision to trigger the explosion. The detonator starts a reaction which leads to rapidly expanding gases unleashing high pressure waves of explosive force. The gases in C-4 expand initially at about 26,400 feet per second applying a huge amount of force to everything it confronts. 8 to 10 pounds of C-4 for instance, would take out an eight inch square steel beam

(IMG:http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/c4-1.jpg)

Shaped C-4 charges placed strategically on the outside facade, under the aluminum cladding, wedged into joints and cracks and for special effect, rammed into funnel charges designed to channel the blast force into the facade and blow parts of it inward, could all have been skillfully and selectively placed to achieve the pyrotechnic effect and leave a convincing enough hole.

(IMG:http://www.teledynesafetyproducts.com/images/dual_controller.gif)

As I already mentioned, the attached detonator could then be used along with an electronic initiation unit to trigger the desired explosion at precisely the right moment, coordinating perfectly with the impact of the missile.

(IMG:http://www.nymc.edu/trauma/wtc-explosion.jpg)

Voila!

So summing up this brief but necessary post: there is no need to dismiss No Plane theory just because of a couple of holes in the story. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

References:
How Stuff Works
About C-4
Damian Lewis June 2 2007 - Daily Mail
Soldiers of Fortune

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QUOTE (Factfinder General @ Aug 27 2007, 01:03 PM)
let alone having it penetrate, which I hasten to add is scientifically impossible, IMO.

I'm glad that planes entering buildings is scientifically impossible only in your opinion. Those of us that have delved in science all of our lives would beg to differ. I'm a member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth as well as Painter. The main line of investigation is how and why the WTC buildings collapsed. Architectural Engineers design these buildings. If there was the slightest question of how the planes were able to glide into the buildings, that would be another part of the investigation at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. But they know that the planes were capable of the damage we see.

I'm going to post a short video for you which i'm sure you may have seen before. It's the WTC construction manager talking about jetliners impacting the towers:

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/HGhWkRAR1Vc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed>

He said the jet plane "punctures the towers" like a screen netting. He did not say that the planes would bounce off the indestructable perimeter walls. The planes and the buildings did exactly what he said would happen. The planes punctured the towers, but did little to the structural integrity of the buildings.

Now comes the "flash". I believe that explosives were added to the nosecones of the planes to help open up the walls and assure that the planes entered fully so that none of the pieces fell to the ground and could identify the planes.

The moral of this post, it's far from scientifically impossible that planes can enter buildings. It's exactly scientifically possible. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)
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