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Video Of A Plane Hitting Light Poles

Domenick DiMaggi...
post Oct 27 2007, 08:18 PM
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The F-4 shows total vaporization of the airframe and also shows a flash at one point.

It would require more testing to determine what a Boeing would do at its possible speed at sea level when hitting a concrete, brick and otherwise reinforced building.

If we consider that the planes went right through 14" square steel tubular columns with at least 1/2" wall thickness and tons of loading from above at the trade towers, we can't think that light poles would do very much. To me, it is surprising that the planes took out so many of the perimeter columns at the towers. They no doubt could have taken out a lot of the floor trusses as well.

I don't think they could have deposited nano thermate however, or melted steel, nor caused free-fall disintegration of the towers.

Its hard to visualize without real testing what would happen between the wings and light poles.

I know that lead and copper bullets will penetrate steel easily at rifle velocities, but I figured it was a matter of the density of the lead and the short time at impact, which didn't give the lead enough time to splatter, and its density is greater than steels. Rather odd actually how velocity changes characteristics of metals. Shooting the same bullets at pistol velocities only produces splatters of the lead and copper.

A .223 will easily penetrate 1/4" of steel plate as will a 30-30. A 30.06 will penetrate up to 1/2" or more of steel plate if shot squarely. All with copper jacketed lead bullets.

Airliners fly at best about the speed of a .45 bullet from a pistol. Less than that at sea level.

I think we could see a great amount of disintegration of the plane against the Pentagon, with parts going through weaker points in the walls.
Without knowing how thw walls were reinforced, its hard to determine even subjecvtively, the mass of the walls versus the mass of the plane.

Still, I don't see how there would be round holes in six walls through the three rings of the Pentagon, especially with all the 2' square pillars inside. It doesn't make sense, you can't have total disintegration and total penetration at the same time.

To me, its peculiar that the planes that hit the towers, went right in, yet at the Pentagon, the plane vanished outside. And after watching all the Pilots for Truth DVDs, it looks more like nothing hit the Pentagon, or maybe a misslie combined with wall penetration charges.

I think its wise to look into any evidence that the light poles weren't there that morning. If somehow it proves that they were, then the mystery about eyewitnesses, black box recorders and all that has to be weighed again.

Another thing, is someone seeing a plane flyover from the other side of the Pentagon.

If someone faked the parking gate five frames and faked the black box recorder, then what we have is the damage, and the eyewitnesses, combined with the motive to fake those things. Then we have the light poles.
Its hard to discredit the eyewitnesses.
The scene at the Pentagon front is really non-conclusive.
The holes through the Pentagon are very odd.
The light poles are the key and are quite tricky.
Its between the light poles and the eyewitnesses. They tell two different stories.
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- Domenick DiMaggio CIT   Video Of A Plane Hitting Light Poles   Oct 27 2007, 08:18 PM
- - SPreston   In the case of the light poles, the 100 ton aircra...   Oct 28 2007, 12:18 PM
- - Craig Ranke CIT   To be honest I think this analogy is not comparing...   Oct 29 2007, 12:23 AM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Oct 28 2007, 10...   Oct 13 2008, 06:00 PM
- - SwingDangler   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 25 2007, 1...   Oct 15 2008, 11:10 AM
- - dMole   This (and subsequent posts) may need to be split t...   Sep 23 2009, 12:30 AM
|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (dMole @ Sep 23 2009, 12:30 AM) Thi...   Sep 23 2009, 05:55 AM
- - tnemelckram   Summing up what everyone has already posted, I thi...   Sep 23 2009, 10:22 AM
|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Sep 23 2009, 10:22 A...   Sep 23 2009, 01:23 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi DYEW! QUOTE One more big difference here. ...   Sep 23 2009, 02:07 PM
- - Maha Mantra   The F-4 shows total vaporization of the airframe a...   Feb 1 2010, 02:32 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Maha Mantra @ Feb 1 2010, 01:32 AM...   Feb 1 2010, 03:55 AM
- - Paul   Where is it i cannot find the video?   Feb 1 2010, 03:02 AM
- - kawika   Whoever hoaxed the Pentagon failed to take into ac...   Feb 1 2010, 03:22 PM
- - Maha Mantra   I understand the melting points of metals, aluminu...   Feb 3 2010, 02:05 AM
- - FreshKills   Where is the video that should have been in the OP...   Oct 18 2011, 04:43 PM
- - paranoia   this would have been the original video, but its u...   Oct 18 2011, 07:24 PM
- - paranoia   btw - judging by the screencaps, it appears that t...   Oct 18 2011, 07:31 PM
|- - FreshKills   QUOTE (paranoia @ Oct 18 2011, 06:31 PM) ...   Oct 19 2011, 06:34 PM
- - ronallen   One thing that has always struck me as a telling f...   Feb 3 2012, 04:55 PM
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|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (paranoia @ Feb 4 2012, 12:38 AM) h...   Feb 4 2012, 06:20 PM
|- - KP50   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Feb 5 2012, 10:20 ...   Feb 8 2012, 04:16 AM
|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (KP50 @ Feb 8 2012, 09:16 AM) Do yo...   Feb 8 2012, 11:04 AM
- - amazed!   I suspect your hunches are correct RonAllen. Welc...   Feb 4 2012, 11:11 AM
- - KP50   Great work, thanks OSS. I'm really time-poor ...   Feb 9 2012, 04:10 AM
|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (KP50 @ Feb 9 2012, 09:10 AM) Great...   Feb 9 2012, 12:10 PM
- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (onesliceshort)and his claim that he was hel...   Feb 11 2012, 10:19 PM


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