Video Of A Plane Hitting Light Poles Options

[Domenick DiMaggi...]

thoughts?

[Maha Mantra]

I understand the melting points of metals, aluminum melts in hydrocarbon fires, I've seen it, but that wasn't my point in saying the F-4 vaporized, I should have said atomized. It looks like a high pressure gas blasting away from the concrete wall. Vaporization or atomization, to the layman is really an expression of disbelief that a plane could become an apparent cloud of fine particles. It is an error on my part.
The angle does make a large difference and the Boeing was going substantially slower than the F-4. I do agree that there should be more wreckage on the lawn.
The comment about how the wall collapses is a good one indicating the relative weakness of the Pentagon wall, although it is in a state after the explosion, not its original state.
The whole idea of the 320 degree spiral to come down to ground level is similar to the idea of Rumsfeld being on the lawn instead of doing something important during the attack, or Bush being in the school, it seems like poor story development by the planners, as it makes it seem easier to stage a frontal impact than a vertical through the roof impact, - hence the bizarre attack angle and path.

If you wanted to do it right, you'd simply crash the plane into the Pentagon and there wouldn't be any questions rattling about like there is, except about why/how the Airforce, Norad, FAA etc, totally failed in their proffessions/duties and many were rewarded for it.

I've gone both ways with the Pentagon front. I originally thought it was ridulous that there wasn't wings, tails etc. all over the lawn. After seeing the F-4 turn into a high pressure "dust cloud" hitting the solid wall, I backed off and have left it up in the air. OK, not a vapor, but nothing that looks like a plane, in the case of the F-4. I guess there may be water vapor full of pulverized metal particles, and some concrete "dust" as well.

I don't have any way to judge how different a Boeing hitting the Pentagon would look from the F-4 hitting the wall, so I can't put a lot of importance on the frontal pictures. To me, the more durable parts COULD have gone through the holes, and the more fragile parts could have become a lot like the dust cloud that was an F-4 in the test. I don't totally believe that, but right now I don't see the importance in that aspect just for me. I FEEL, that the mass SHOULD have pushed in the first wall, and there SHOULD be more debris around the area. The windows, even being one and a half inches thick of even Lexan, should have been blown in. To me, they would have bent inwards and came out of their mounting. If glass, they would have broken. Maybe they were clear steel from the future. Just kidding. Of course like I said before, I FEEL that the wings of the planes that hit the Trade Towers SHOULDN'T have taken out the perimeter columns all the way to the tips almost. So what SEEMS to me isn't reliable.

But for me, the eyewitness testimony and the light poles are very distinct differences.

If you took the F-4 Phantom and substituted Jet fuel for the water, it makes me wonder what the dusted aluminum would do in the heated environment. Not that I really care. It wouldn't vaporize, but if melting in such a high pressure situation, it would practically atomize to something resembling a high pressure mist. Just the heat of impact on a softer metal could be quite high. Of course the fine aluminum would cool into a dust, and that would take on a shape and maybe even be in piles.

What kind of got me about the Phantom was that even the tail was becoming a high pressure dust cloud and showed practically no sign of slowing down going into the solid wall.

Its a little like watching demolitions. many things crush into pulverized components just by falling, especially concrete cooling towers apparently, or smoke stacks. So the concrete in the Trade towers could have been pulverized by the fall, not explosives. I'm not saying that the fall can produce squibs 60 floors below the collapse zone as apperently happens, but there are things beyond our usual experience that seem stranger than they are.

I don't believe the Government's story. If true, these people's incompetence practically compares to their wickedness if it is false, meaning they represent practically the same amount of threat whether stupid, or evil. Possibly, they are equally both.

Carry on, truth seekers and truth finders.



Lead bullets powder at 500 MPH against concrete.