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B767 Or A Missile?

Do you think the object on the radar was a civil B767
Do you think the object on the radar was a civil B767
Yes [ 1 ] ** [5.88%]
No [ 12 ] ** [70.59%]
I'm still not sure [ 1 ] ** [5.88%]
I don't care, 'coz it won't make any difference. The dabate about what or what not hit the S-tower detracts the movement and is possibly CoIntelPro. [ 3 ] ** [17.65%]
Total Votes: 17
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post Nov 11 2007, 06:16 AM
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Because the question of a missile now leaves the realm of a fantasy and enters the realm of a good probability I made this poll.
More information how we came to the serious suspicion of a missile in this thread:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...topic=9179&st=0

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post Nov 11 2007, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Nov 11 2007, 12:58 PM)
QUOTE (Factfinder General @ Nov 11 2007, 07:28 PM)
I do get what you are saying, Sanders but why should that be though?  This is an interesting and perhaps profoundly philosophical question to me.

Are most people afraid of getting off the fence for some reason? Is there some deeper reason?  I would love your wisdom shed on this.  Maybe have a bevy or two and get back to me. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

The very point in this is not if it was an airplane or a missle
that hit the south tower.

I share your doubts in several ways about the assumption of
UA 175 hit the WTC2, but I am also aware of the political difficulty
of the NPT issues:

My (and not only my) thoughts about the NPT is this:

The Truth Movements first responsibility is to wake up others to the
fact that we have been lied to. That 9/11 wasn't pulled off by Ali Bin Ladin
and his 19 Henchmen. That we all need to look into it and see the deception
and the forces that put this lies forward: The Banks, The Military Industrial
Complex etc.pp.

By knowing, that this can only be accomplished when the Movement is
cdonsidered serious and backed by scientific, financial, political, historical
and logical eviodence, we all should avoid to spend too much time and
energy with theories -or even facts that can be prooven by long
explainations.

The No Plane Theory is ised over and over by the perpetrators and their
henchmen, aka the MSM, to discredit the Truth Movement as nutjobby
tinfoilheadwearing conspiracy wackos. I for one can't stand to hear the
arguments of "We all saw the planes on TV, what are wrong with these folks?"
anymore.

Imagine some shepole who never questioned the official conspiracy theory
in his live who comes across this board and the very first thread he stumbles
upon is about the question if a 767 or a missile hit the WTC...

Such a peron would shake his head and click back to James Randi's forum
in a second flat.

Second to this most important beef I have with NPT is that the question
if it was a plane or a missle of an energy beam or something so sophisticated
that we cannot even imagine is without any importance at this point.

I appreciate your research, FFG, Don't take me wrong.
But it can also be discussed after the truth about the background of
9/11 has reached the critical stage of widespread acceptence and steps are taken
to restore the constitution, the Media system and alike.

Because before this stage is reached, the NPT only gives "them" the opportunity
to label us "wackos". You can't jump the gun, FFG. Try to see the big picture
even if it's fascinating to do such research and feel like S. Holmes.

end of rant and my 2ct: Carl

The perps have muddied the water for NPT, without a doubt, and I believe that their intention was to program people to "shut down" at the merest mention of it.

Why would the perps do this? IMO because it is the KEY truth (along with NDT) to understanding the whole 9/11 deception.

Presuming for a moment that this is the case: Now we have a real challenge on our hands. It is one thing saying one stands for truth and trying to present that truth to the people but when you aren't certain of what that truth is, or worse, when you are mistaken about what that truth is, how convincing can you be?

In my experience, just saying someone did so and so, without being able to explain your self fully as to who that someone is or what it was exactly that they did, or why it was done, never will come across.

When I am with someone face to face and calmly present them my case, the light comes on and they get it because it makes sense. This is my experience, honestly. It is almost like a revelation to them. I'm hoping that I won't sound too presumptuous or know it all here but I believe this is because: (1) I have gotten to the truth, more or less, and (2) the light of truth shines. The trick is to get to a full understanding of the truth and then convey that understanding. Understanding is what people are hungry for as I see it. painter has a quote by William Blake at the bottom of his posts as his signature:

QUOTE (William Blake)
If the truth can be told so as to be understood, it will be believed.

Do you see where I am coming from, Carl? Basically, I am talking about the ship of Knowledge that I was referring to earlier. This ship carries the important cargo of Understanding. Right now I believe the perps are trying to fool us, maybe even forcing us into sailing in a leaky ship ("us" being the people constituting the Truth Movement).

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- tumetuestumefaisdubien   B767 Or A Missile?   Nov 11 2007, 06:16 AM
- - Carl Bank   edit / last possible answer added by: Carl   Nov 11 2007, 12:51 PM
- - Factfinder General   COINTELPRO? Not me! As far as I'm concer...   Nov 11 2007, 01:06 PM
- - Sanders   Welcome, tumetuestumefaisdubien If you hang aroun...   Nov 11 2007, 01:22 PM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 11 2007, 12:22 PM)you wi...   Nov 11 2007, 01:28 PM
- - Carl Bank   QUOTE (Factfinder General @ Nov 11 2007, 07:2...   Nov 11 2007, 01:58 PM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Nov 11 2007, 12:58 PM)QUOT...   Nov 11 2007, 02:24 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   The first thing needed to make any progress with a...   Nov 11 2007, 03:17 PM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Nov 11 2007, ...   Nov 11 2007, 03:21 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   And anyway, I don't much feel good on the ...   Nov 11 2007, 03:30 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   And anyway: The "Poll" about the importa...   Nov 11 2007, 03:42 PM
- - amazed!   If they used a missle they would have to also empl...   Nov 11 2007, 03:58 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 11 2007, 02:58 PM)If...   Nov 11 2007, 04:04 PM
- - Sanders   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Nov 12 2007, ...   Nov 11 2007, 04:20 PM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 11 2007, 02:39 PM)The ...   Nov 11 2007, 04:41 PM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 11 2007, 02:58 PM)If...   Nov 11 2007, 04:50 PM
- - Sanders   QUOTE (Factfinder General @ Nov 12 2007, 05:4...   Nov 11 2007, 05:15 PM
- - Oceans Flow   I haven't read the comments above. I think it...   Nov 11 2007, 06:37 PM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Nov 11 2007, 05:37 PM)I ...   Nov 11 2007, 07:43 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 11 2007, 03:20 PM)QUOTE ...   Nov 12 2007, 05:50 AM
- - Sanders   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Nov 12 2007, ...   Nov 12 2007, 08:36 AM
- - amazed!   FFG I know you've been talking about these ...   Nov 12 2007, 05:53 PM
- - dMole   QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 12 2007, 04:53 PM)Or...   Nov 12 2007, 09:10 PM
- - amazed!   Thanks dMole, that's what I'm talkin' ...   Nov 12 2007, 11:16 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 12 2007, 10:16 PM)Wh...   Nov 13 2007, 01:28 AM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 12 2007, 04:53 PM)FF...   Nov 14 2007, 02:07 AM
- - dMole   Hi FfG, Are you familiar with Major Doug Rokke, P...   Nov 14 2007, 02:22 AM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (dMole @ Nov 14 2007, 01:22 AM)Hi FfG, ...   Nov 14 2007, 02:27 AM
- - amazed!   Right, the Colonel's statement about DU is mis...   Nov 14 2007, 09:40 AM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 14 2007, 08:40 AM)Ri...   Nov 14 2007, 09:55 AM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Factfinder General @ Nov 14 2007, 08:5...   Nov 14 2007, 11:03 AM
- - Factfinder General   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Nov 14 2007, ...   Nov 14 2007, 11:26 AM
- - Shallel   I think this poll is useful as it does provoke a n...   Nov 17 2007, 02:03 AM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Shallel @ Nov 17 2007, 01:03 AM)6 Ther...   Nov 17 2007, 09:46 PM
- - dMole   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Nov 17 2007, ...   Nov 18 2007, 03:05 PM
- - Ningen   Carl said: "The No Plane Theory is used over...   Dec 1 2007, 03:36 AM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   So are credible the witnesses they "saw the p...   Dec 1 2007, 06:02 PM
- - BaNoyes   What is this? 3-9 secs watch UFO climb on left. 1...   Dec 16 2007, 01:07 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (BaNoyes @ Dec 16 2007, 12:07 PM)this i...   Dec 18 2007, 01:39 PM
- - BaNoyes   QUOTE Yeah, there is a reason indeed...as disclosu...   Dec 18 2007, 02:12 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (BaNoyes @ Dec 18 2007, 01:12 PM)whatev...   Dec 19 2007, 09:24 AM
- - dMole   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Dec 19 2007, ...   Dec 19 2007, 11:46 AM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 19 2007, 10:46 AM)COINTELP...   Dec 19 2007, 08:28 PM
- - BaNoyes   QUOTE Yeah, there is a reason indeed...as disclosu...   Dec 19 2007, 09:58 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (BaNoyes @ Dec 19 2007, 08:58 PM)I saw ...   Dec 20 2007, 03:53 AM


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