Location Video Of Pentagon Streets And Highways, CIT Jettin' Crosstown! Options

[UnderTow]

I like how they use a map showing the down river north approach, but X it out and draw in some other flight path.

And I think he was too high for the light poles on all 3 trys. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Omega892R09]

Not to mention they did not specify speed. They would have to disable the crash logic in the sim to produce the speeds reported in the FDR. Crash logic kicks in a few knots above Vmo and the screen goes red while the sim freezes. Imagine that, disabling the crash logic in a sim which is telling you that the aircraft cannot fly above those speeds without tearing itself apart.

Although I am not a pilot I know where you are coming from having been in the RN's FAA and worked with F4 Phantoms amongst other heavy metal (and flown in a few so am aware of flight envelope limits). Besides I know about turning off crash logic in a sim' 'cause in MS Flight Sim I can throw an F4 all over the place in that state but can make it fall apart very quickly once above 600 knots with CL on.

BTW I am not attempting to throw a spanner in the works here I was only trying to gauge thoughts about LC and JT8D and I guess I have those now. Thanks.

As I suspected JT8D paid no attention to topography and infrastructure.

[Omega892R09]

They also indicate that a damaged turbofan would create white smoke

I see people say this but can not find evidence for such.

What say you?

I say no, white smoke could be symptomatic of combustion chamber carbon burn off, say from the burner nozzles, but would not be expected from a catastrophically damaged turbofan which would have been the result of such impact with a generator as depicted. Black smoke from improperly combusting fuel being fed through a broken fuel system would be expected.

But what has been going on here? I have just revisited that ‘Pentagon Attack Analysis (Zembla)' video sequence and the discussion about this has vanished. I must be going nuts here.

[rivers]

Craig, I sent you a PM about it 3 days ago: is there any chance to look at this picture set in native resolution?

[Craig Ranke CIT]

Craig, I sent you a PM about it 3 days ago: is there any chance to look at this picture set in native resolution?

Really?

I never got it.

I would have to email them to you.

Send me an email at lytetrip@yahoo.com with links to the images you want the most and I'll send you the high resolution versions.

Right click for "copy link location" or the links for the images are displayed in this thread:

http://www.atsadgrab.com/forum/thread314576/pg1

[Craig Ranke CIT]

Hey Ashoka,

How about getting me approved to post over at Farmer's 84 RADES forum?

[rivers]

Craig, I sent you a PM about it 3 days ago: is there any chance to look at this picture set in native resolution?

Really?

I never got it.

I would have to email them to you.

Send me an email at lytetrip@yahoo.com with links to the images you want the most and I'll send you the high resolution versions.

Right click for "copy link location" or the links for the images are displayed in this thread:

http://www.atsadgrab.com/forum/thread314576/pg1

I sent the mail 2 days ago (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

[Craig Ranke CIT]

Ok done.

Sorry man I got back from out of town late Monday.

[rivers]

Ok done.

Sorry man I got back from out of town late Monday.

Thanks for pics Craig!

[Destinova]

Watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QgUdMCZ5ik

[SPreston]

Watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QgUdMCZ5ik

What a crock of crap!!!!! This video shows no such thing. You need special Bush OCT goggles and a warped NeoCON imagination to see that. Where is the other hotel video which the hotel employees were watching? Where are the rest of the FBI confiscated 85+ videos around the Pentagon which most assuredly show them and the Secret Service staging the light pole and Lloyd England Lincoln taxicab fiasco and the explosions at and inside the Pentagon and the planting of other pieces of faked evidence at the crime scene? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

OCT goggles provided by Halliburton at maximum cost to taxpayer suckers
..(IMG:http://homepage.mac.com/brianflemming/iblog/images/bush_goggles.jpg)

[Destinova]

It's right, you can't see a airplane on the video.
You also didn't see it on all other released tapes.

But still it's a good different view on this tape and should leave you thoughtfully. While everyone talks about a spot from the upper right fly to the left and missing people and all other anomalies caused by the bad quality of this video or because the video is edit and so on and so on...
Many of us getting to much focused on those things.

But obvious we're all looking for something that hit the Pentagon on ground level.

Then wouldn't it make sense to watch the ground level too if something hit a building on the ground?

IMO this is a substantial contribution.

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[Craig Ranke CIT]

The analysis is incorrect because the "opening" he is referring to has no view of the flight path.

We drive right up to that area at the end of CIT Jettin' Crosstown Part 2.

(IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/doubletree/overpassimage.jpg)

As you can see there are actually 3 overpasses:
(IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/doubletree/doubletreeshotwithflightpath.jpg)

It's impossible to see the flight path or the plane at all from the ground level of the DoubleTree which is where the released camera view is.

Here is the actual camera:
(IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/doubletree/doubletreecamera.jpg)
(IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/doubletree/Picture037.jpg)

This is the problem when people who have never been to the area try to analyze things without enough data to be accurate.

[Destinova]

And that's why I love the efforts you exhibit here.

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[Craig Ranke CIT]

And that's why I love the efforts you exhibit here.

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Cool thanks!

If nothing else we want to get people to understand the importance of on site investigation.

Scrutinizing actual points of view is key particularly in regards to the Pentagon attack.