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Let's Buy Aa11

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post Nov 16 2007, 04:26 PM
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NOTE: SELLER HAS ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=2071&st=0

I think this still needs further investigation, despite the claimed error in serial numbers, but I would urge everyone to be extremely cautious in approaching this - one false move, and our biggest find ever could just evaporate! This calls for our most seasoned investigators to probe this very gently, and I suggest Jeff (shure) hold off for now with his unique brand of telephone journalism, at least until a few more facts can be sussed out.
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post Nov 16 2007, 04:46 PM
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Any A&P's want to volunteer for a prepurchase inspection ....

Better yet get copies of the logs to study
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post Nov 16 2007, 05:23 PM
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Just like joining an exclusive country club, any potential buyer must first prove to the seller that they have the means to complete a transaction. Does anyone in our circle have $16.5 million?
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:33 PM
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Yeah, Bill's right. If it's being offered for sale, inspection of the logbooks is normal procedure.

Somebody needs to pretend they're buying it.
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:38 PM
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On viewing that first link, something looks fake about it. Several specifications, for example the seating capacity, are listed multiple times. That's stupid and redundant.
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post Nov 17 2007, 11:03 AM
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I called Mr. Chowdry yesterday and told him, I am working
with a berlin based Bank for Air Berlin and like to know some
details about the 767 he listed on his website for investment interests etc...

It was about 4:00 pm Washington time on Friday, 11/16/07
and he was in his car on the way home.

I prepared myself a bit for this call, so I had arguments handy
and he wasn't suspicious at all. But one of the first things he stated
(in a very strong eastern european accent) was "First of all -
there was a mistake with the serial number: Its not 223323 but
22332... err ...0 ! I said this is of minor interest, I am more interested in the
maintanance and logbook history ond the former owners. and of course
your idea of the price and your ideas of possible leasing contracts.

We chat for a while and he told me, that this plane had its last flight from
Dallas to LAX where the left engine caught fire. The insurance payed
for the incident and instead of just replacing the old blades, he installed
two new engines and the entire left wing, provided both by Boeing.

I asked: "Were they new or used?" he said, of course, they were redone used ones,
but this doesn't make any difference.

We talked about 15 minutes and he confirmed, that this was an American Airlines
Jet and that all maintanance service history is available and so on.

He promised me to send me the info he got about the plane via email,
and fotunately, I got a emailadress withj the word "Bank" in it,
so he possibly will send me the stuff.

But after looking up 223320, it seems he was talking indeed about
that plane:



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Taken at
Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX)
USA - California, June 2, 2006

American Airlines
Boeing 767-223/ER

N330AA / 330 (cn 22330/166) 12:30:22. The day is hazy and hot. I was taking photos to the Air New Zealand's 747-400 ZK-SUJ, when in the background I saw a big explosion in the engine number 1. It was the American's 767 N330AA. At the time of the explosion, the aircraft engines were running while the plane was parked near to the AA hangar.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1059747/M/


anyway, It was worth a try.


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post Nov 17 2007, 11:18 AM
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Thanks Carl, for all that effort. Typo with the serial number.....

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You rock, Bank of Carl cheers.gif
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post Nov 17 2007, 01:17 PM
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I dont know if it mean anything, but According to what they say at airliners.net, N330AA / 330 (cn 22330/166) was sitting in LAX Oct. 2007:

"Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX)
USA - California, October 2007

N330AA / 330 (cn 22330/166) The left engine exploded during a test run. Really sad to see her still sitting in LAX."

www.airliners.net

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post Nov 17 2007, 03:17 PM
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^^That sure doesn't look like it's ready to sell, nor is it white. whistle.gif

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post Nov 18 2007, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE (behind @ Nov 17 2007, 05:17 PM)
I dont know if it mean anything, but According to what they say at airliners.net, N330AA / 330 (cn 22330/166) was sitting in LAX Oct. 2007:

"Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX)
USA - California, October 2007

N330AA / 330 (cn 22330/166) The left engine exploded during a test run. Really sad to see her still sitting in LAX."

www.airliners.net

Well... let`s see.

The ad is dated September 2007, but the plane in question was sitting in LAX in October 2007, still damaged and unrepaired?

I did a quick online research and found following infos:


http://www.airframes.org/reg/n330aa
"Status: Written Off"

http://www.jacdec.de/info/2006-06-02_N330AA.pdf
"Damaged beyond repair"


http://us.airliners.net/discussions/genera...d.main/3683553/

Quote:
"I walked around ship 330 after the fire, and there is no way that frame will fly again. The heat pretty much melted the flaps and canoes, as well as the wing fairings. The fuselage has severe heat damage, and most stringers aft of the wing are rippled out. The windows were charred, melted and distorted, and the tail took quite a bit of heat as well. Not to mention the destroyed engine(s), holes in the wing, fuselage and nacelles from the ejected metal from #1, and that poor bird was doomed right from the start. Thank GOD that didn't happen at V1."



http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=718636

Quote:
"I spoke with a couple LAX AA mechanics two months ago about this bird. They told me that she had been written off because of the structural damage and she will never fly again. AA has begun using parts from the plane to support other 767-223s.

I also checked one of the web sites and found that this plane came to AA on 3/13/87 and when she was grounded in the summer of '06, she had over 80,000 hours of flying on her"

(Ad says 70,000 hours, btw...)


Some interesting pics:
http://photos.palal.net/v/airports/laxairport/AA762/


Conclusion: I doubt this guy is selling N330AA...

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post Nov 18 2007, 02:53 PM
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Great work, Kesha. thumbsup.gif
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post Nov 18 2007, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Nov 18 2007, 06:53 PM)
Great work, Kesha. thumbsup.gif

Yeah...

I used a top secret technology called "Google", and it took me not less than 30 minutes!

B)
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post Nov 18 2007, 04:57 PM
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This is the biggest smoking gun ever. Hopefully somebody can locate this plane and photograph it and it's serial number. That would nail this down completely.

I urge everyone who has a sympathetic contact in MSM to pass this along.
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post Nov 18 2007, 05:05 PM
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Should be interesting. B)
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post Nov 18 2007, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Nov 18 2007, 08:57 PM)
This is the biggest smoking gun ever.  Hopefully somebody can locate this plane and photograph it and it's serial number.  That would nail this down completely.

I urge everyone who has a sympathetic contact in MSM to pass this along.


...that`s what I was trying to imply.

I`m from abroad.
Isn`t there a way to take legal action against this dealer in the US?

Something like "hidding/selling crime evidence" or so?
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post Nov 18 2007, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Kesha @ Nov 18 2007, 03:43 PM)
Yeah...

I used a top secret technology called "Google", and it took me not less than 30 minutes!

B)

Here are a few things many don't know about Google and Gmail.

I have heard reports that Google and Gmail are linked to CIA and/or NSA, and that Keyhole Corporation was actually an intelligence front.

http://www.news.com/2100-1032_3-5428685.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/03/go...s_evil_privacy/

http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/08/msn_bans_scroogle/

http://www.spacetoday.org/Satellites/YugoWarSats.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/kh-12.htm

http://scroogle.org/

Next time you use Google maps and Google Earth, look for the "downloading from kh0, kh1, kh2," etc. in your browser's status bar.

The toolbar is just creepy IMHO, but I'm no stranger to IT. I prefer Mommacrawler, Dogpile, momma.com, or scroogle, and I won't use Microsoft Internet Explorer (Firefox/mozilla are probably best now that AOL owns Netscape).
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post Nov 18 2007, 05:19 PM
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To be honest, we should be careful about what we say in this public thread, folks. :ph43r:
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post Nov 18 2007, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (dMole @ Nov 18 2007, 09:16 PM)
QUOTE (Kesha @ Nov 18 2007, 03:43 PM)

Yeah...

I used a top secret technology called "Google", and it took me not less than 30 minutes!

B)

Here are a few things many don't know about Google and Gmail.

I have heard reports that Google and Gmail are linked to CIA and/or NSA, and that Keyhole Corporation was actually an intelligence front.

http://www.news.com/2100-1032_3-5428685.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/03/go...s_evil_privacy/

http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/08/msn_bans_scroogle/

http://www.spacetoday.org/Satellites/YugoWarSats.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/kh-12.htm

http://scroogle.org/

Next time you use Google maps and Google Earth, look for the "downloading from kh0, kh1, kh2," etc. in your browser's status bar.

The toolbar is just creepy IMHO, but I'm no stranger to IT. I prefer Metacrawler, Dogpile, momma.com, or scroogle, and I won't use Microsoft Internet Explorer (Firefox/mozilla are probably best now that AOL owns Netscape).


Im fully aware of the probs with Google...

...but as long as it provides links which are refuting the OCT, it`s ok for me.

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PS: One of the main mistakes in the planning of 9/11. They underestimated the power of global networks.
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post Nov 18 2007, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Nov 18 2007, 09:19 PM)
To be honest, we should be careful about what we say in this public thread, folks. :ph43r:


Ehh... Why?

Someone is trying to sell a Boeing which s/n indicates that it has been used as a weapon in a mass murder.

Ok... I`m from Europe and nobody will punish me here... but asking simple and logical questions should be allowed, even in the US.


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