QUOTE (rob balsamo @ May 6 2009, 05:44 PM)
moved to lobby from latest news as this article is dated Dec 2007.
It's equally relevant as of right now, Rob.
In Italy they had the "Strategy of Tension" whereby authoritaritarian elements in the Italiam military intel and 'security' forces went on a rampage consisting vast numbers of false-flag terrorist outfits -- mainly yje soi-disant "Red Brigades and the Black terrorists of Stefano delle Chiae pretended to "fight" each other while engaging in killing sprees aimed at terrifying the Italian public into accepting a milatary government with absolutist powers, which would be for all practical purposes be urremoveable, because they would have a police state with unlimited powers and no interfering "elections." When he resusted them, they MURDERED aldo Moro and children of Ministers, so that all the politicians would know the score.
The whole thing became unglued when the P2 Lodge scandal exploded, and they started fighting each other. Violence and the Lie are always interactively linked as Sozhenitsyn writes in his Nobel Prize Address "One Word of Truth.." -- his Nobel Prize Acceptance speech, which is inspitingly neautifulm especially the BBC Russian Service Translation.
The entie text of "One Word of Truth' us available RIGHT NOW on my Atlanta Site, which repays close study
http://www.STARGATE.uk.net/nobel.txt It's uncannily prescient, Rob -- by all means post a copy here on Pilotsfor911truth, and all the other bona fide 9/11 sites you know of. Just read it --- DYNAMITE!!!
You'll also appreciate:
http://www.STARGATE.uk.net/twelve.txt and
http://www,STARGATE.uk.net hosted in Atlanta for 1st Amendment reasons -- i.e. Close Protection by good people in NSA and the good people you'll find combing through
www.defenselink.net
who are sworn to the Constitution to defend the United States against all enemies foreign or domestic Smiles
I was talking with a Colonel at the Pentagon (no name, no pack drill, and I said that if -- and only if -- I had to choose between a fully-fledged Police State built on the NKVD-KGB-GESTAPO structure and memes and internal dynamics OR a mild military government, i'd choose a mild military government,. uInhesitatingly...
He chuckled, and said:
"Don't worry -- we leave NOTHING TO CHANCE..." Smiles...
Ashcroft's evil FBI people blew up the WTC and stalled the investigations into culpability by 'deciding' that Jerome Hauer's fairy story of "19 Muslim fanatics" taking over four aircraft when all anyone has to do is to reprogram the autopilot software to disconnect the software/hardware link between the pilots controls and the autopilot, and the autopilots will then fly all four planes automatically to their GPS-designated targets, to GPS military accuracy of two metres... Add in a few neat little twists and insert them into a bona fide set of extensive advance-planned military air defence exercises. That's what I told the 911 Commision, with video evidence.
do a web search on NARA Cordero 911 Commission Ahcroft and see for yourself...
It's garbled deliberately, to avoid Marco Corfero getting himself killed. Notice there's no mention of the Pentagon FOIA man who scanned the Internet photos of the Pentagon's own records while browsing the pentagon's internal records ACROSS ALL THE INTEL COMPARTMENTS -- he HAS to have Security clearancxe and unlimited Access to be able to redact the documentary FOIA releases blacking out the dodgy bits: and his boss was KILLED there on 9/11...
He told me with an Ice-9 voice:
Tony, THERE WAS NO BOEING."
I'd contacted him to find out who ordered the JAG stand-down which inder Military Law has to supervize all military interrogations (a) So as to protect the detainees agaunbst abuse: (B) to protect the interrogators against FALSE ACCUSATIONS; and © to ensure that good Intel is gathered instead if the lies of terrifued detainees.
Most of the Abu Ghraib videos and photos are fabricated, so as to be as terrifying as possible.
After the unspeakable and accursed Paul Bremer -- former MD of KISSINGER GODDAMN ASSOCIATES had FIRED the ENTIRE Iraqi Police Force on 7 days notice, there were no 'eyes and ears' on the ground in Iraq for our guys. So they rounded up thousands of innocent iraqis, hauled 'em into Abu Ghraib, made them watch laptop slideshows of hideous atrocities (including REAL ONES, all exactly cinfigured to struke at the most fundamental fears of Arabs and Muslims, and then presented the poor men and women with a Devil's Alternative of becoming "US" informers OR going into the Hell they'd just witnessed on the slide-shows, their surrender to evil was recorded on Video cameras and they were told that COPIES OF THOSE VIDEOS would be scattered around their homes if they stepped out of line.
I'd done SERE training with Australian Special forces by the age of 17...
UNSPEAKABLE WICKEDNESS...
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Tony Hollick // 18 December, 2008 at 4:00 am
john thames:
How to tell the difference between winners and losers:
Losers talk about what they’re going to do when they win; winners think about what has to be done so as not to lose…
THE LITTLE FASCIST
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From: “What do you say after you say Hello?” by Eric Berne M.D.)
“Every human being seems to have a small fascist in his head. This is
derived from the deepest layers of the personality (the Child in the
Child). In civilized people it is usually deeply buried beneath a platform
of social ideals and training, but with proper permissions and
directives, as history has shown again and again, it can be liberated
into full bloom. In the less civilized portion of the population, it is
openly exposed and nurtured, and awaits only proper opportunities for
periodic expression. In both cases it is a strong force in advancing
the script: in the first case, secretly, subtly, and denied: in the
second case, crudely or even proudly acknowledged. But it may be said
that whoever is not aware of this force in his personality has lost
control of it. He has not confronted himself, and cannot know where he
is headed.
A fascist may be defined as a person who has no respect for living
tissue and regards it as his prey. This arrogant attitude is no doubt a
relic of the prehistory of the human race, still surviving in the gusto
of cannibalism and the joys of massacre. For carnivorous anthropoids on
the hunt, ruthlessness meant efficiency and greed was motivated by
hunger. But as the human mind and brain evolved through natural
selection, these qualities were not bred out. After they were no longer
necessary for survival, they became detached from their original goal
of bringing down the dinner meat and degenerated into ends in
themselves, luxuries often indulged in and enjoyed at the expense of
other human beings. Ruthlessness developed into cruelty, and greed into
exploitation and theft. Since the prey–the flesh itself, and
especially human flesh–was largely replaced by more compliant
stomach-filling commodities, it began to be used to satisfy
psychological hungers. The pleasures of torture replaced or preceded
the pleasures of eating, and “He He” took over from “Yum Yum.” It
became less important to kill him (or her) than to hear and watch him
(or her) scream and grovel. This became the essence of fascism–a
roving band seeking male of female prey to torment or deride–whose art
lay in probing for the victim`s weakness.
There are two by-products of the grovel, both of them advantageous to
the aggressor. The biological effect is sexual pleasure and excitement,
with the victim available to indulge even the most ingenious
perversions the favorite of record being anal rape. Torture brings
about a peculiar intimacy between the torturer and the victim, and a
profound insight which is often otherwise lacking in both their lives.
The other by-product is a purely commercial one. The victim always has
valuables which can yield a profit. For cannibals it may be the strength
derived from magic organs such as the heart or the testicles, or even
the ear. For advanced peoples, the fat can be used to make soap, and
golden tooth fillings can be salvaged. These yields are exploited after
the furor of personal encounter has subsided, and they are “melted
down” into anonymity.
The small fascist in every human being is a little torturer who probes
for and enjoys the weakness of his victims. If this comes out openly, he
is a cripplekicker, a stomper, and a rapist, sometimes with some excuse
or other such as toughness, objectivity, or justification. But most
people suppress these tendencies, pretend they are not there at all,
excuse them if they show their colors, or overlay and disguise them
with fear. Some even try to demonstrate their innocence by becoming the
purposeful victims instead of the agressors, on the principle that it
is better to shed their own blood than that of others, but blood they
must have.
These primitive strivings become interwoven with the injunctions,
precepts, and permissions of the script, and form the basis for
third-degree or “tissue” games that draw blood. He who pretends that
these forces do not exist becomes their victim. His whole script may
become a project to demonstrate that he is free of them. But since he
is most likely not, this is a denial of himself and therefore of his
right to a self-chosen destiny. The solution is not to say, as many
do, “It`s frightening,” but rather “What can I do about it and what
can I do with it?” It is better to be a martyr that to be a troglodyte,
that is, a man who refuses to believe he has ascended from an apelike
creature because he hasn`t yet: but to know oneself is better than
both…”
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john thames // 18 December, 2008 at 5:38 am
I will only comment that by your own definition I am a winner.
As to the absurd lecture on fascism, I will quote Ernst Zundel: “Nature is Nazi”. How about atavistic, fascist feminists getting a kick out of butchered fetal tissue. Do they get orgasms out of killing their own baby?
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john thames // 18 December, 2008 at 5:47 am
Tony:
Since you lecture me on the need to control barbaric impulses, I will quote you Adolf Hitler regarding English propaganda. “Remember, gentlemen, if this empire (the British) actually believed in the principles for which it now professes to be fighting, it would never have been created in the first place.”
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Tony Hollick // 18 December, 2008 at 12:21 pm
john thames:
I don’t “lecture you.”
I offer posts to read which may (or so I hope) enlighten you. There is a difference.
Hitler’s knowledge of history was none too good. The enterprise later known as “The British Empire” was created through voluntary trade, and the claiming of lands believed to have no States. Later, powerful merchants pressed for the imposition of uniform codes of Law, to assist in the upholding of their contracts.
This inevitably gave rise to a shift from “Primus Inter Pares” to Imperial Sovereignty.
The principal cause of the American War of Independence (supported by less than a third of the Colonists) was the Ruling in the House of Lords that slave-owning was incompatible with te Common Law (which applicable in America). The slave-owning class viewed this as ruinous and intolerable, and fomented revolt.
Do you really regard Blacks as less than fully human?
Tony
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john thames // 18 December, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Tony:
Hitler’s reading of history was quite good; yours is deficient. Let me enlighten you. The British empire was not created by “trade”; it was created by raw, naked aggression all over the planet for centuries. The endless plunder raids into France for centuries had nothing to do with “trade”; ask Joan of Arc. Raiding Spanish galleons on the high seas had nothing to do with “trade”; the “trade” with the Chinese over opium was achieved by blowing up Chinese ports; the Boer war “traded” Dutch lives for Jews and gold,etc. This rosy view of English imperialism has never been shared by the rest of the world who know better. The conquest of India was a classic example of English “trade”. The British would start with “trade”, then annex one principlality after another to “protect” the interets of the East India Company. After enough cases of playing one ruler off against another with the British picking up the pieces, the British had the entire subcontinent under their control. They then proceeded to rob the Indian people blind. Remember William Hastings, who said that : “Sirs, when I think of how much more I could have stolen, I am astonished by my own modesty?” You should read the excellent speech by Senator Gerald Nye entitled “Aggression Builds the British Empire”. “The Way of the Aggressor” is also quite cogent on the way the English kept continental Europe in turmoil 1550-1814 by playing off one continental rival after another. I won’t bother to go into Oliver Cromwell’s Mavigation laws by which the ships of other nations were declared the prey of English privateers. Which history of which British Empire have you been reading?
It may surprise you that someone with my views should be recounting crimes against the Third world (and white world) by the British. It isn’t that I have any particular sympathy for these groups but when English crocodiles start propagandizing about the benefits they have bestowed on humanity that really is too much. I recall that Dr. Joseph Goebbels wrote many cogent attacks on English hypocrisy. He stated that the British empire had a “history which was more than dubious”. Adolf Hitler frequently mocked English charges of German aggression by pointing out the crimes the British were vcommitting in Palestine. As Der Fuehrer put it in a Sportspalast speech: “The poor Arabs of Palestine are defenseless and forgotten; the Germans of Czechoslovakia are neither defenseless nor forgotten.” You are, of course, quite correct that the majority of American colonials wanted to remain loyal to England. They are lucky they lived before Lord Balfour’s time; had they read his mewling assurancesof fair treatment to the Arabs the American Revolution could have killed more Redcoats a lot more easily. (”Forewarned is forearmed.”)
You ask whether I really do consider blacks less than human. Let me propose a test by which you can answer your own question. When you wind up being burned alive with a rubber tire aound your torso, perhaps with gasoline poured down your throat to enhance the process, courtesy of the enlightened race you adore, then you can ponder whether blacks are really any more advanced than Genghiz Khan (or even more advanced than pacifist, anti-”male violence” feminists who pull their own baby apart with a pair of pliers at the abortion clinic). I am impartially cynical; I know too much about the sewer called humanity to suffer from any unreasonable bias whatever.
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Tony Hollick // 19 December, 2008 at 10:45 am
john thames:
You say:
“You ask whether I really do consider blacks less than human. Let me propose a test by which you can answer your own question.”
Let’s make the test really simple for you.
If you had a red button which, if pressed, would cause the instant and permanent disappearance of all “black” people from Planet Earth, would you press it? “Yes” or “No” will do.
Tony
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john thames // 19 December, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Yes.
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Tony Hollick // 20 December, 2008 at 12:01 pm
john thames:
And Jews? Yes/No
Indians? Yes/No
Arabs? Yes/No
Chinese? Yes/No
Japanese? Yes/No
Pakistanis? Yes/No
Africans? Yes/No
Aboriginal Peoples? Yes/No
Mongols? Yes/No
Russians? Yes/No?
South Americans? Yes/No
Iberian Peninsula? Yes/No
Korean Peninsula? Yes/No
Everyone else except you? Yes/No
You too? Yes/No
Well?
Tony
“We may all be in the gutter: but some of us are looking up at the stars.” - Oscar Wilde
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john thames // 20 December, 2008 at 5:56 pm
No.
Had I answered your loaded question any other way, would you have believed me?
Do you think that:
(1)All dissidents and free thinkers should be wiped off the globe?
(2)All right wing extremists and historical revisionists should be wiped off the globe?
(3)All racists should be wiped off the globe?, etc.
Questions like these are sophomoric.
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Tony Hollick // 20 December, 2008 at 7:54 pm
john thames:
The questions may be “sophomoric” but when dealing with people who advocate getting rid of other people, they an be useful in finding out who they want to get rid of, thus why. You were supposed to answer the list group by group.
As I will answer yours:
(1)All dissidents and free thinkers should be wiped off the globe?
Of course not: freedom of thought and opinion is one of the glories of the Enlightenment.
(2) All right wing extremists and historical revisionists should be wiped off the globe?
Of course not. Arguing with them may improve our understanding in many ways.
Right wing extremists are usually victims of cripplingly authoritarian child-rearing practices. We need to protect children better against violence.
(3)All racists should be wiped off the globe?
When I was 19, I was “racist” in a typical English middle class way. Then I read a novel by the American writer James Baldwin. Whatever else I thought of the novel, there was nothing in it to make me think that the writer was other than fully human. I was astonished when a (racist) friend told me the author was Black. My racism evaporated. It was predicated on the mistaken idea that Black people must be noticeably different “inside their heads.”
98% of the human genome is held in common. Yet in every society on Earth, darker-skinned people are at the bottom of the social pyramid, while lighter-skinned people are at the top. The only exceptions I can think of are the hapless Jamaican “Red-Legs”, poor whites brought in to be slavemasters, until slavery was abolished.
Their history is instructive…
Tony
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john thames // 20 December, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Tony:
You have learned all the wrong lessons in life. Blacks are completely different inside their heads. There are all kinds of well documented scientific studies on their lesser mental development. Wake up to the real world. It will not be found in James Baldwin novels.
I have heard the nonsense about right wing extremists having grown up in “authoritarian” families. You haven’t been reading “The Authoritarian Personality” by Theodore Adorno, have you? Actually, I grew up in the least authoritarian family you could imagine. You are off the mark again.
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jb // 31 December, 2008 at 7:29 pm
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Dear Ed Straker,
I hope you are not the son (or a relation) of Dennis Straker, who taught me maths in th 1950s and is possibly the greatest modern maths teacher of all time!
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I agree with this article 100%.
By the way ED STRAKER was a fictional hero of a UK sci-fi production of the late 1960s (UFO) by Jerry Anderson…
Go figure
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jb // 31 December, 2008 at 7:39 pm
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98% of the human genome is held in common. Yet in every society on Earth, darker-skinned people are at the bottom of the social pyramid, while lighter-skinned people are at the top.
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So what?
First, you get that in common with big apes, too.
Second, look up a Open University broadcast named “the human genome”…you’ll see top scientist claiming this “98% in common with” means NOTHING…in fact humans are “50% banana” says one scientist…and humans have only twice as many genes as a…WORM says another scientist.
But probably all you care about is making some bandwagon appeal.
A look at US crime rates may also help you understand how “you know who” is typically eyed with suspicion.
Neither the OU, nor the US justice dept. are run by ODESSA.
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Tony Hollick // 1 January, 2009 at 2:18 pm
“jb”:
“98% of the human genome is held in common. Yet in every society on Earth, darker-skinned people are at the bottom of the social pyramid, while lighter-skinned people are at the top.”
I stated an observable, ascertainable fact. There are many explanations for differences in skin colour. Given all the different explanations for different groups, why should there be this uniformity of outcome, unless cultural factors account for the discrimination? Genetic traits in a population converge to the mean.
You cannot have sex with a banana and expect a fertile human baby as a result. At least, I must hope that you wouldn’t expect that; but in the light of your utterances, we can leave nothing to chance… >:-}
One look at US “crime” rates (most of these “crimes” are figments of the imaginations of authoritarian legislators) shows us that a low-level race war is in progress in the US.
Life expectancy in US prisons is 50. Most prisoners are black, at peak “breeding” age. They cannot “breed” in prison. They cannot vote afterwards. How “convenient!”
The aptly-named “US Criminal Justice System” shows us only too clearly, that the emotions which incinerated those millions are alive and well. Most of the Nazi “Race” ideologies and practices actually _originated_ in the US. No need for any ODESSA to get them there. Read up on Eugenics in America.
The first kiss between a white man and a black woman on US TV was between Kirk and Uhuru in “STAR TREK” in 1964. (And even then, the plot demanded that they were acting under mind control).
Try this:
Fly to New York and get a skilled theatrical make-up artist to make you up as black. Then spend a few days trying to go about your business.
Try it in London and you won’t be too pleased by what happens, either. Make sure you have a good lawyer.
Tony
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jb // 1 January, 2009 at 5:03 pm
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You cannot have sex with a banana and expect a fertile human baby as a result. At least, I must hope that you wouldn’t expect that; but in the light of your utterances, we can leave nothing to chance… >:-}
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You can have sex with big apes and expect offsprings, so what? In vitro they engineered pigs with a sizable percentage of human DNA to transplant bits and organs into humans, so what? It is a fact that the “98% in common with” explains just nothing.
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One look at US “crime” rates (most of these “crimes” are figments of the imaginations of authoritarian legislators) shows us that a low-level race war is in progress in the US.
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I am sure you are the first to lock your car, house or to “avoid” or “profile” places or people, right? After all, if some thug of color stabbed you in the guts to steal your car, you wouldn’t be able to post here any longer to say crimes are imaginary.
Theft, burglary, drive-by-shooting, stabbings, dope dealing aren’t thought crimes.
Studies show how AFRICAN taxi drivers do profile potential clients in the same way white taxi drivers do, which means AFRICAN taxi drivers IGNORE many potential AFRICAN clients…it’d be interesting to interview them to find out, eh?
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The first kiss between a white man and a black woman on US TV was between Kirk and Uhuru in “STAR TREK” in 1964. (And even then, the plot demanded that they were acting under mind control).
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I see you are very interested in interracial stuff. I suppose one of the many $2,99/day XXX websites will accommodate you. Gene Roddenberry had a chip on his shoulder as big as Mars and was portrayed as a bossy, disrespectful a$$hole by those who worked with him, yet I understand he only relayed US phobias as “universal”.
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Fly to New York and get a skilled theatrical make-up artist to make you up as black. Then spend a few days trying to go about your business.
Try it in London and you won’t be too pleased by what happens, either. Make sure you have a good lawyer.
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A long time ago the alarm would beep and I’d be cornered by security EACH & EVERY TIME I’d enter a big shopping mall…So I had to empty my pockets, etc etc and I had nothing on me, ever. I am as white as one can be and have been often mistaken for a German, yet since I have no chip on my shoulder I simply let it go.
I have been given the “speak white” routine, too.
On the streets I see no shortage of people of color of all hues, shapes and sizes; on TV (especially youth-oriented TV ) there is no shortage of colored stars, hosts and so forth, but you tell me all are closely watched as suspects: too many of them to do so, I say.
Bill Cosby once said the problem with African people is not racism but African people themselves.
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jb // 1 January, 2009 at 5:07 pm
PS:
how do you explain that if I approach a white girl and she won’t touch me with a ten meters pole because *** (you name it: I’m too fat, too skinny, whatever ) they call it “lack of chemistry”, but if the same fate befalls a person of color (which may include many non-white categories ), they call it “racism”?
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jb // 1 January, 2009 at 6:07 pm
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At the end of the 19th Century, almost all scientists were socialists, believing as they did that socialism was the “scientific” way to run the economy and ensure plenty.
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Marx coined the “scientific socialism” buzz-word to part HIS gospel from both old school socialism (=appeasers to him. Napoleon III was a declared socialist ) AND “utopian” socialism (=fantasy).
Scientific socialism=marxism.
I doubt ALL scientists in 1900 were marxists.
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Tony Hollick // 1 January, 2009 at 6:25 pm
“jb”:
Petty theft and burglary are “have-not” crimes. Drive-by-shootings have to be divided into “recreational” and “reprisal” killings. With stabbings, it’s sometimes hard to know who started the fracas. Some people just like to fight.
For libertarians, sales of unadulterated recreational drugs should not be criminalized. In the ’60s, when heroin was free on the NHS, there was no market for it, and the number of users stayed put at 1600. Then the criminalizing “Do-gooders” got busy… 850,000 users now…
The only experience of criminal behaviour I have is as a white person, at the hands of white people. In most cases, the (white) State Police are worse than useless.
As for your question: James Baldwin put it rather well when he said that if he runs for a bus, and it drives away, for him it may be because he’s black. Likewise, if he asks a pretty girl (or boy) for a dance, and she (or he) refuses, it can always be because he’s black.
BTW: Why did you set off alarms in shopping malls?
Tony
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jb // 1 January, 2009 at 7:43 pm
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Petty theft and burglary are “have-not” crimes. Drive-by-shootings have to be divided into “recreational” and “reprisal” killings. With stabbings, it’s sometimes hard to know who started the fracas. Some people just like to fight.
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I hope you never find some thug needing your help to unwind.
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Likewise, if he asks a pretty girl (or boy) for a dance, and she (or he) refuses, it can always be because he’s black.
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That’s why I call it a chip on the shoulder…it may always be anything…halitosis for example.
When a non-white (or other equally “special” groups like gay, queers etc ) gets a failing grade, it’s the proof that the chauvinist establishment wants them on their knees…
If a “mainstream” (=non-special) boy gets a failing grade, then he either didn’t study hard enough or at best has run into one of those unavoidable teacher-pupil situations that we all have experienced.
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BTW: Why did you set off alarms in shopping malls?
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I never got to find out. I wear no prosthetic, body plates or similar, either. After a (long) while, security got used to it and no longer bothered with me.
Another time airport security didn’t want (1996) me to board a plane because they said my documents were faulty…AFTER CHECK-IN…that is when I am physically boarding the plane, there comes this big blond and blue-eyed thug with a badge and a gun and stops me.
Another time they didn’t want me to board an EEC domestic flight.
Another time street cops obliged me to go to the station because my car documents (the state-supplied ones & the only ones I got ) were “suspect”.
Another time yet street cops detained me & a friend almost an entire day because we fit the profile of two “terrorists” (in 1993) they were seeking and only released us when I got fed up and asked to make a call to talk to my lawyer.
See?
Maybe they were seeking people riding the same model of car, who knows…
What would a person of color make out of all that?
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john thames // 5 January, 2009 at 7:34 am
Gentlemen:
What are you arguing about?
Blacks regress in every society where they are left to their own devices. What more needs to be said?
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Tony Hollick // 5 January, 2009 at 12:01 pm
“john thames”:
“Blacks regress in every society where they are left to their own devices. What more needs to be said?”
For starters: How would you explain, then, that the entire human race throughout the world has developed from black origins in Africa? Or that the first true steels were made in Africa by African smiths? Or that Trevor, the husband of my niece, is [a] very black; [b] intelligent; [c] successful at business and [d] an accomplished American Football player?
As well as a really nice guy (and ex-Army)…
Tony
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john thames // 5 January, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Tony:
Where did you get this nonsense that human civilization started in Africa? You might as well tell me that human civilization started in Haiti. There used to be a book entitled “Great Accomplishments Of The Black Race” with numbered blank pages. I suggest you read it.
It is nice to know that your niece is a nigger lover. The white race really needs more half-breed orangatangs walking around. Blacks have destroyed Rhodesia and South Africa after the removal of white rule. Perhaps you should send your personal Barack Obama over there to raise them up. Maybe he could help them build a few steel mills.
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Tony Hollick // 6 January, 2009 at 5:16 am
“john thames”:
Look at yourself:
“It is nice to know that your niece is a nigger lover. The white race really needs more half-breed orangatangs walking around.”
You wouldn’t say that face-to-face. You wouldn’t say it to Trevor. Do you think you’re “unreachable” just because you’re posting on the Internet?
Tony
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john thames // 7 January, 2009 at 3:21 am
Tony:
As a matter of fact, I would. You misjudge me. People tend to say all kinds of things behind their employers back-but not within earshot, when they might get fired. Such are the realities of the world.
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Tony Hollick // 7 January, 2009 at 5:08 am
“john thames”:
How old are you?
Certanly, no-one could accuse you of having learnt good manners…
Tony
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john thames // 7 January, 2009 at 7:01 am
Tony:
My age is irrelevant.
I am perfectly capable of good manners-when they are appropriate. However, good manners are for social occassions. They are not for intellectual debates when it is daggers drawn. Too many false ideas are tolerated because of fear of controversy. I prefer the controversy.
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Tony Hollick // 7 January, 2009 at 1:42 pm
“john thames”:
“Civilization really got going with the invention of _swords_. Intelligent people saw brave men and women fighting and dying, and reached the conclusion that wise people would fight with words rather than swords, with bad _ideas_ dying instead of people.” — Karl R. Popper
Tony
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Tony Hollick // 7 January, 2009 at 1:45 pm
“john thames”:
I do have two Hattori Hanzo katanas, by the way. Really. In bright tempered steel.
Tony
for your courage, Senatore.
..and the list keeps on growing, and growing, and...
