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Sanders
For comments, hanging out, heck, even talk about 9/11 is allowed... it's a 'free posting zone' !
rob balsamo
Very nice job Sanders! Thank you for putting this up.

Cheers..

Rob
Sanders
'pleasure -


Still a lot of topics need attention
slowly getting there though
kudos to the other librarians from me
figured out the image thing too - thanks

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Robyn623
I love the library and I love the new image! Great work! thumbsup.gif
JerryB9105
Unlike other libraries, in this one we can turn the music up (LOUD) while we debate the subject of 9/11. I like it here.
NJcpaTOM
Hi,
How and/or who would I contact to be able to upload images &/or videos?

I found my self in the middle of a reply to a question about the amount of heat necessary to melt the Core Columns.
The most obvious evidence about the lack of fires were all the non-charred paper that was blown out of the buildings during the controlled demolition collapses.
I went to another site and tried to use a couple of the images but your software would not let me. I haven't been able to upload jpgs into my posts.

Please advise. Thank you,

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Sanders
QUOTE (NJcpaTOM @ Nov 8 2006, 03:18 PM)
Hi,
How and/or who would I contact to be able to upload images &/or videos?

I found my self in the middle of a reply to a question about the amount of heat necessary to melt the Core Columns.
The most obvious evidence about the lack of fires were all the non-charred paper that was blown out of the buildings during the controlled demolition collapses.
I went to another site and tried to use a couple of the images but your software would not let me. I haven't been able to upload jpgs into my posts.

Please advise. Thank you,

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Greetings, NJcpaTOM

I'm the head librarian I guess, we're still uploading material and trying to work out the bugs. PM me. As for posting images, just go to photobucket (not sure of the exact url), or imageshack <imageshack.us>. It's very easy, you just upload your image to their site, and copy the direct-link url. Then, on this site (or others) when you are posting and want to add an image, hit the image button, and paste the url to your image in there.
lederhosn
Hey "head-librarian" - you`re doing a great and important job thumbsup.gif

Thank you at this point for your efforts cheers.gif
p.w.rapp
http://vigilantwatchnewsandblog.com/blog.html
The Bat Cave - batmanchesters blog contains an outstanding post by Sanders from the 'Pakistan' section, which I'd name an excellent sumary of one of the 'book-shelves' of The Library.

Without exaggeration - The Library on PF911T-Forum is a dream come true for me.

Let us all help Sanders by adding more books to the shelves !!!

*pilot thanks*
Z.
George Hayduke
Yo! Kickass archive you're building here, Sanders. Couldn't get you to grab some links and info on the good Dr. H. S. Thompson before the gestapo shuts down Prison Planet?
Sanders
Done

I had the Infowars article in there, I added a Prison Planet page that links to all their articles on it.

Topic:Casualties of 9/11 Truth::Articles
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...dpost&p=4988004


Thanks for steering me to that

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Sanders
Found something cool - the Modern History Project Database

Type in a name or a company and see how they connect with the other names and companies in the database. Slick

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...dpost&p=4988486
jo56
QUOTE (Sanders @ Jan 1 2007, 01:39 AM)
Found something cool - the Modern History Project Database

Type in a name or a company and see how they connect with the other names and companies in the database. Slick

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...dpost&p=4988486

Wow, Sanders! This is GREAT!

Great find smile.gif
Sanders
Thinking of losing the 'Celebrities' topic and instead moving that stuff into a new topic: 'Spreading the Word' or something. I've thought about this from time to time because people from all corners speak out and that's what's important, and any news about celebrities can be enclosed in a more general topic. Also, it'd be a good place for this:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...dpost&p=7314024
pinnacle
Somebody ought to do a documentary about the National Geospatial Intelligence
Agencie's datamap of the United States which incorporates hundreds of layers of information, millions of photos and surveillance videos etc. detailing everything down to objects about two feet square in the entire country. This can be analyzed by image mining software that can scan several million images per second.
Also what about the use of passive radar that does not require a GPS chip to track people and vehicles?
Sanders
Note: pinnacle's above post is in regard to our topic: Police State - thanks for the post, pinnacle - do you have any links to more information about this kind of stuff?

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Carl Bank
Yesterday,

I pointed an interested newbie to this Library and
told him it is kind of best source for researching 9/11.
In the conversation that leads to this recommendation,
he asked me about the meaning and orign of the expression
'False Flag Operation'.

By now having a look at the 'Quick Navigation'
(The place I always refer to),
I can find no 'False Flag Operation' in the list.

How Is this possible?

Carl
pinnacle
Going back to my concerns about the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency
I notice that Google is now doing something similar with this new street level
panaoramic photography of people, cars, houses etc.
Pretty soon you won't be able to tell the difference between government and corporate surveillance at all.
Obviously NGA can run all the Google images through it's computers at any time
look for all kinds of visual information and nobody even knows it's going on.
Ain't image mining wonderful.
pinnacle
I forgot to mention that the NGA website has lots of inetesting informatio and a
bi-monthly publication that describes how they work with other agencies like NSA, how they use remote sensing on the battlefield, which of course was strangely ineffective in detecting Iraq's WMDs before the war but apparently works great now.
They had a big issue on how they created detailed data maps of New Orleans
before Hurricane Katrina which apparently nobody ever looked at in the days
following the storm when people were dying in the various hospitals and clinics that were not evacuated or even checked for survivors until a week later.
Woolfie
Hi Sander's, Is there any follow up links to the trillions of dollars that was unaccounted for the day before 9 11 at the Pentagon.....I know what a busy bee you are so in your own time thanks wink.gif
Sanders
Hey Woolfie salute.gif

Thanks for your interest, thanks for your comment here -

Setting up this Library wore me out to be honest. There are some holes I know, and I've been lax in keeping it up to date. I had a great helper, Tarya, but she's dissapeared (we miss her). Actually, I would love to find someone who has done some research and knows what's up and what's down with regard to 9/11 etc., and would be interested in helping maintain this. Lately I have been, as you noticed, busy.

Finally, to answer your question, the missing 2 trillion is an interesting side-topic. Where would it go? DoD ?? I guess. If you can dig up a good link or two about the money, I'll duly put them in here. (Maybe I'll even write something up regarding "open complicity" and how it might relate to Rumsfeld's announcement??)

How's that?
Woolfie
Its a deal wink.gif
Woolfie
Sorry Sanders but Ive another Q....Is there anywhere in here that gives links to the NYFD radio transmissions on 9 11?

I remember hearing that a fireman witnessed the attack on the second WTC and said it was a green plane that hit blink.gif

Thanks again thumbsup.gif
Sanders
No, nothing in here about that blush.gif

BTW, the initial idea for this place wasn't so much that one guy was gonna fill it, but that people would contribute. I am SO pleased that you've taken an interest and posted these things here. If you see a hole (like the FDNY radio transmissions), do a little googling until you find something good about it, and post a link for us here, and I or someone will duly put it in the appropriate topic.

Thanks so much again for your interest !
Woolfie
Hi Sanders well Im on a right mission now and being a right female with it blink.gif

Ive got the radio transmission link (and now for the annoying part) it had no timer but its before it gets half way and over the quarter mark rolleyes.gif )

I am totally astounded as not only did I hear that it was a green plane, the fireman also described it as a bomber style plane ohmy.gif

Oops nearly forgot....Im sure the firemen who work for NY are not colour blind.....that would be like a medical failure yes1.gif
Ignore 1st link found a better one below doh1.gif
http://ia300104.us.archive.org/1/items/911...ttan01_64kb.mp3

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4797889

Oh its about the second tower that was hit cheers.gif

http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/50527

No mention that marine 6 seen a green bomber style plane in this transcript....

http://www.fdnewyork.com/transcript.asp

Its okay please ignore me for now....Im collecting wink.gif

Marine 6....

http://www.minnesotafireservice.com/rememb...1saygoodby.html
Woolfie
Ive done a fair bit of trawling around on this and to my amazement it is brushed under the carpet....

TAPE: Marine 6 to Manhattan. That plane was a large bomber style green aircraft into the second tower. Be advised.

The plane was United Airlines flight 175. But in the chaos, few firefighters could be sure of WHAT they were seeing. As the South Tower burst into flames more units were sent into Lower Manhattan. Meanwhile, EMS dispatchers were still dealing with the rest of New York City.

I know there was witnesses who seen this "military" aircraft....surely a fireman would be seen as an upstanding one Grrr!!!
thirdwaver
This perhaps in the "Why?" topic?

It seems to me that people have been positing that Bush & Co's motive for being behind this would be to start the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. As I was watching 9/11 Mysteries, I noted that Bush's brother was in charge of security at the WTC prior to 9/11. Isn't it possible that the controlled detonation was performed by terrorists (vs. US Govt) and they did so by slipping past Bush's brother disguising it as repair work? If that was the case, the Bush administration's resistance to investigate anything but their lame pancake theory would be to cover up incompetence that would have disgraced the Bush family and ruined them. The stakes would be pretty high, no?

I'd also love to find out more information about the power outage, the contractor work going on the weeks prior to 9/11, etc. It seems like, if it were a controlled demolition, they would need to time it close to when the planes hit. Perhaps the hijackers screwed up and hit the wrong building first because the 2nd bldg to get hit was the first to come down, yes?

And how come no one has really interviewed demolition experts who can discuss the footage? I haven't seen one interview yet. Did I miss it somewhere?

Sean
Sanders
Thanks for you interest, and welcome to the form, thirdwaver.

I'd suggest you try and let go of the notion that "terrorists" did 9/11, all the evidence will fit together much more readily. 2 cents smile.gif

Don't know whether or not anyone's been able to do a face to face with any US demolition exerts, but there's a Dutch demolition expert, Danny Jowenko, that has stated unequivicably that WTC7 was a controlled demolition - maybe others know more about that. (?)

Cheers

PS, list of Engineers and Architects who question the official story:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html
jo56
Hi Sanders,

Have you seen this website about JFK Assassination?
http://www.aarclibrary.org/index.htm
http://www.aarclibrary.org/whatsnewarchive.htm

Some quite interesting articles from old newspapers and legal docs.

Look to the right of that page for this info:

What is Bush Sr.'s relationship to the assassination story? For more info:
FBI--Bush Called About JFK Killing
Affidavit of George William Bush
Joseph McBride article: George Bush, CIA Operative
Memo: Messrs. George Bush and Thomas J. Devine


FYI
Cheri
To the Guest Librarian....

Under the PNAC topic it is imperative to connect the dots of:

Which PNAC members, statement signers and/or founders were members of the Bush cabinet or put into positions of power under his administration?

examples:

John Bolton: worked as the interim Permanent US Representative to the UN from August 2005 until December 2006 on a recess appointment, and resigned in December 2006 when his recess appointment would have ended.

Paul Wolfowitz: former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense, and President of the World Bank.

Zalmay Khalilzad: was the permanent United States Ambassador to the United Nations under President George W Bush. Previous assignments in the Administration include U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq.

Elliot Abrams: National Security Council (2001-2009)

and so many others...


Additionally, as equally important is mentioning the PNAC members, statement signers and/or founders who were members of the White House Iraq Group (WHIG)and the Iraq Study Group (ISG)? The group(s) that marketed the Iraq war to the American people.

examples:

I. Lewis Libby

Edwin Meese III

and others...



Here is a good link to PNAC members, statement signers and/or founders and what they signed on to:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/charts/pnac-chart.htm


PNAC Participants

* A Complete List of PNAC Signatories and Contributing Writers (1997-2005)
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pnac_chart/pnac.html

* PNAC Contributors and Signatories from the Reagan Administration
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pna...nistration.html

* PNAC Contributors and Signatories from the George H.W. Bush Administration
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pna...nistration.html

* PNAC Contributors and Signatories from in the Clinton Administration
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pna...nistration.html

* PNAC Contributors and Signatories from the George W. Bush Administration
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pna...nistration.html
Sanders
Thanks Cheri -

In all honesty, I don't have the time or the energy to keep the Library current anymore, it was created a while back and moved here intact when the forum moved. If you'd like to put together a post that presents all of that info succinctly I'd be happy to add a prominent link to it in that topic.
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Cheri
QUOTE (Sanders @ Mar 1 2009, 04:47 PM) *
Thanks Cheri -

In all honesty, I don't have the time or the energy to keep the Library current anymore, it was created a while back and moved here intact when the forum moved. If you'd like to put together a post that presents all of that info succinctly I'd be happy to add a prominent link to it in that topic.
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Ok will do. PNAC is my specialty wink.gif

also, you may consider putting my Operation of False Flags as well as the Terrorist DNA article in the appropriate categories in here.

You have done a great job. I am willing to help in here at anytime if needed.
Sanders
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Ricochet
and you wonder why we have a hard time trying to educate people on 9/11.
http://www.wimp.com/badamericans
Sanders
QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 5 2009, 07:04 PM) *
and you wonder why we have a hard time trying to educate people on 9/11.
http://www.wimp.com/badamericans


That's just depressing sad.gif
Cheri
QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 1 2009, 05:04 PM) *
and you wonder why we have a hard time trying to educate people on 9/11.
http://www.wimp.com/badamericans

sad and disgusting at the same time...sigh
dMz
QUOTE (thirdwaver @ Nov 26 2007, 09:14 PM) *
And how come no one has really interviewed demolition experts who can discuss the footage? I haven't seen one interview yet. Did I miss it somewhere?

Sean

Danny Jowenko

Jowenko WTC7 Demolition Interviews, 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DRhwRN06I

Jowenko WTC7 Demolition Interviews, 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sep-HDZoEBM...feature=related

Jowenko WTC7 Demolition Interviews, 3 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boNzLZInbjU...feature=related
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Also a short clip at Google video (probably the same as above):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7778438571360742389
painter
QUOTE (Sanders @ Mar 1 2009, 05:32 PM) *
That's just depressing sad.gif


Ugg. Well, if it is depressing, I'm not going to click on the link as I'm depressed enough as it is. weep.gif
Cheri
QUOTE (painter @ Mar 1 2009, 09:36 PM) *
Ugg. Well, if it is depressing, I'm not going to click on the link as I'm depressed enough as it is. weep.gif

awwwww now that's a cute smilie...u ok Painter? Wassamatter?
painter
QUOTE (Cheri @ Mar 1 2009, 09:55 PM) *
awwwww now that's a cute smilie...u ok Painter? Wassamatter?


I'm ok. Just suffering from too much time online. I'm 62 years old. My body is literally atrophying due to spending too much time online. I'm not joking. I'm nearly out of money and have a very limited income right now. Things are getting weirder on that front as you know, too. I'll probably pull some kind of rabbit out of a hat -- I almost always do -- but it is getting close. (Do you have a 'pull a rabbit out of a hat' smiley? That would be cool.) I'm in a weird psychological state. Not all bad but strange. Difficult to talk about. Last night I had a full on panic attack -- something I seldom do. I stopped smoking cigarettes in November but fell off the wagon and bought a pack yesterday to try and calm myself down. I don't worry about that -- I know I can and will quit -- can't afford them for one thing. But that is taking a toll on my physical health as well. I've been trying to get back to my art. Very difficult. Crazy, crazy time. Thanks for asking.
Sanders
QUOTE (painter @ Mar 6 2009, 12:36 AM) *
Ugg. Well, if it is depressing, I'm not going to click on the link as I'm depressed enough as it is. weep.gif


The people in that vid are just so stupid.

If it's any consolation, I've been getting out of the house less and less myself, and it's reflecting on my checking account too. Not good. Maybe you should start smoking again? (I'm half kidding!!) Smoking definitely affects one's mental processes - for me, when I quit I become more absent minded (which is dangerous), so I think I will always smoke. Hand roll them, that'll stop you from smoking too many and it costs much less. Just a thought ...
lunk
Hey Painter, if it's a mid life crisis,
that's sort of good news for 62.

imo, lunk
JFK
Just an FYI...

I have begun a Library at the Loose Change Forums for "official" documents using issuu.com as the host/flash server.

Feel free to embed anything I have uploaded... here.

My page at issuu - is here

The Library at LCF - http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/forum/841542/
Ricochet
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