Richard Greene's show "Clout" on Air America will begin at 9:00pm EST on Thursday the 15th.
http://airamerica.com/clout/

It will feature CIT and PfT on the truth movement side but for some odd reason Greene is having problems finding someone to represent the official story side.

Imagine that!

Our first thought was the popular mechanics "Debunking 9/11 Myths" editor James Meigs but he said he will no longer debate 9/11 ever again.

So unfortunately we put the word out to the government loyalist site to see if any of them are willing to step up to the plate.

Ron Weik already made a thread there requesting participants.

He suggested Reheat, Anti-Sophist, Apathoid, Gravy, and Beachnut.

Of course whoever is willing to do it would have to be a real human as opposed to a screen-name so I guess we'll see if any of them are willing to put their name behind their claims!

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL

Unfortunately, I will not be able to listen to the show live as I work on Thursday evenings at the exact time it will be broadcast. If at all possible I will tune-in but there are limits to that. I'll want to know if there is an archive of the show to be listened to at a later time, though.

This is great news, guys!!

Way to go, gentlemen! 2008 is the Year of Truth, my friends.

Yes, good news.

No surprise that the sophists defending the government story won't participate. It's hell to try to defend the indefensible.

For the sake of spirited public dialogue, maybe I should fake it, and offer to represent the government side?

Press Release - For Immediate Release

Air America Radio: What Happened At The Pentagon?

05/13/08 - We hope you'll join us regarding the issues surrounding the Pentagon Attack this Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 9pm Eastern on Air America Radio with your host Richard Greene, Co-Produced by Rob Balsamo, Co-Founder, Pilots For 9/11 Truth. The show will be streaming on the internet at http://airamerica.com/clout

Guest will be:
Craig Ranke from Citizen Investigation Team http://thepentacon.com
Rob Balsamo, Co-Founder, Pilots For 9/11 Truth http://pilotsfor911truth.org
Kevin Barret http://www.mujca.com/
Individuals supporting the govt story - TBA

We have contacted others to represent the government story including James Meigs and David Coburn of Popular Mechanics. Their Secretary has advised us that Meigs and Coburn are no longer accepting any offers to discuss topics on 9/11. Others are in the process of gathering possible representatives. Please email us at pilots@pilotsfor911truth.org if you would be interested in representing the goverment position regarding the events at the Pentagon.

Topics of Discussion will include (but not limited to) -

Hani Hanjour
Flight Data Recorder
Witnesses - published and non-published
Other issues surrounding the Pentagon

We hope to see you there!

Rob Balsamo
Co-Founder
pilotsfor911truth.org

Be sure to call the NTSB and FBI and get their official refusal to discuss their data with you.

Typos corrected ( "government" and "discussion" & "mechanics" spelled wrong)

We have contacted others to represent the government story including James Meigs and David Coburn of Popular Mechanics. Their Secretary has advised us that Meigs and Coburn are no longer accepting any offers to discuss topics on 9/11 Others are in the process of gathering possible representatives. Please email us at pilots@pilotsfor911truth.org if you would be interested in representing the government position regarding the events at the Pentagon.

Topics of Discussion will include (but not limited to) -

Hani Hanjour
Flight Data Recorder
Witnesses - published and non-published
Other issues surrounding the Pentagon

Also...

You should say...

The show will be broadcast live nationwide and streaming on the internet at http://airamerica.com/clout.

Otherwise it implies it's ONLY online.

its already released my friend.. i fixed the typos

Nice job guys! Good luck finding anyone who will support the OCT. Hopefully I will be able to listen and maybe call in. I look forward to hearing you destroy the opposition.

Perhaps if you sent the press release to the NTSB, DOD, and the FAA maybe they might call in.....ahhh nevermind that whole constitution thing about petitioning the government for redress seems to have been shredded by the terrorists.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_ro...ss_release_.htm


Also, i sent Ted at the NTSB an email regarding the show. He knows about it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...ess=389x3284253

Thanks Rob for the link to the "Democratic Underground"- I THINK---

Reading ALL the negative, frivolous "chaff" discussion over there gave me "Journal of Repugnant Egotistical Fluffer" flashbacks!

AAAAHHHH!!! [with me running, screaming (possibly naked) into the trees...]








Ummm... JK

Well isn't that something huh...maybe he realizes that he was wrong all along! For someone who felt so strongly about getting his point across...he sure gives up easy when the going gets tough.

DU and I go way back. I seldom even read, let alone post, in their 9/11 forum. There was a time when it wasn't completely over-run with j-ref trolls but that was years ago. I don't know that there have been any recent polls on the subject but even years ago a very high percentage of DU readers had questions about the official 9/11 story. Occasionally even now a 9/11 thread will get started outside the 9/11 forum and will often receive a lot of 'greatest' recs before it gets moved out of the general discussion forum into the 9/11 forum (where they can not receive 'greatest' recs). Anyway, I don't go to the DU 9/11 forum except when I want to increase my general level of disgust for my fellow humans. I do, however, monitor the general forums for other news.

I hope someone will post a link to an archive of the show as I'll not be able to listen to it live.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...5x204861#205099

FYI,

Big announcement coming from CIT tonight.

Tune in.

Vindication is at hand.

craig an i are currently on hold... show starts now.. David Ray Griffin for first few minutes...

http://airamerica.com/clout

I'm listening in - Barbara Honegger to start. Go well guys.

I'm assuming that this is being recorded and will be downloadable later? Does anybody have means to prepare a written transcript?

Ronald Wieck is the opposition spokesman. He has opened with :-

All the bodies from the plane were identified - hence Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. If you don't believe this, then you believe that the FBI etc are "all in on in" which makes you a fantasist - he is a rationalist hence Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. QED. Doesn't seem like facts will make much impression on him from us "fantasists".

A Mr. Ronald Wieck has joined the show as opposition. He was in a BBC piece in April.
http://www.jonesreport.com/article/04_08/30bbc_debunk.html

DRG is on now.

Doing 5 points of dispute with the Pentagon tale. As usual displaying his vast knowledge of 9/11 but annoying host by taking up too much time.

Ummm, did Wieck just trip over his own ad-hominem d***?

He almost went too far and got himself banned from the show .... called DRG a liar for those not listening but DRG has already gone so no chance of a debate between the two.

Ah NASA/JPL's own Ryan Mackey. I've read the relatively-honest first part of his paper- it looks impressive at first, but leaves a little substance lacking in the bigger scope.

See 911blogger for Kevin Ryan's, Tony Szamboti's, and less-so my history with Mr. Mackey.
http://www.911blogger.com/node/11016

I believe that Kevin Ryan has written a Mackey refutation paper since the above thread, and I never heard if DRG replied since then.

Mr Wieck hasn't come up with anything new yet ........

Craig Ranke is on next with his news ....

Richard Greene doing a very good job as host.

Rob's on NOW.

Craig's up NOW.

Craig played short clip of new witness supporting flyover .......

J_R_E_F. Semantics. Rhetoric.... Next... Barbara is on NOW.

As ever these shows can only skim the surface, hopefully it has prompted someone new to take an interest.

Very disappointing. Rob barely got a word in. Craig's recording was hard to understand, but I thought I heard his witness talking about two aircraft and didn't hear the part where he described an over-flight. Where can I listen to this tape?

I only hope it drives a lot of visitors to P49T.

And what the hell was Richard doing with the riff on Wieck's voting record? Who cares who that supercilious prick voted for? You can't have a tone of voice like that and not be a Republican (that is if you aren't a gestapo officer).

Sorry, folks. I'm a little pissed.

Wieck closes with appeal to emotion:

"The people that mattered most weren't here tonight. The people who picked up the charred, burned remains" [my reasonably accurate paraphrase- close enough to warrant quotation marks IMHO]

Great job Rob, Craig, et al.

Thanks Colonel-

I had started penning a rant about the "political party" portion myself- but thought better and hit the Back button- damn, I must be getting old (or else I'm a few cups low on either piss or vinegar).

A frustrating experience! Way too many advertisements! It was great the DRG made it on the show, but I would have liked Rob to have more time to discuss the FDR in particular.

You are so right.

I'm pissed too.

Way too many guests.

We'll be releasing the testimony completely with names (we have more than one) and further independent corroboration of ALL their accounts very soon.

The info is huge and so ridiculously solid.

Trust me on this.

Yes he speaks of 2 planes but he was inside the building and could not see the "first" plane that allegedly hit the building.

He thinks the commercial plane he sees flying away IMMEDIATELY AFTER the explosion is a "2nd plane" but it could not be because according to the 2007 released official 84 RADES radar data there was none and we know that Reagan was grounded.

tell me something, is it true that air amerika is owned by bushit pioneers?

is it really anything other than an agitprop network disguised?

Here's the deal.....

We currently have testimony from 2 new witnesses who strongly support the flyover.

The one I played on air was in the Pentagon at the south parking lot loading dock and outside within a few seconds of the boom. He said it was about 7 steps to be out of the building.

He saw a "COMMERCIAL AIRLINER" with jet engines banking away only 50 to 100 feet high max.

We have a female officer who was in Arlington National Cemetery and saw the plane directly overhead which is NORTH SIDE and thought it hit either the "other side" or the "top" of the Pentagon.

This is clear support for the flyover.

We have an open dialog with both and so are holding off releasing their names and testimony for now but it will be soon.

We have other VERY strong leads.

Validation keeps coming folks.

This isn't because the official story is true.

The show looks like its already up on http://airamericaradio.com/clout

Also, i was able to record the second hour "breaks" (sorry, i didnt think to record them until second hour).

Heres what happened behind the scenes..

11min runtime, i edited out on air discussion. Only off air chats are in this recording except for the last segment.

Hi Rob,

Is there any other format possible except Apple iTunes/QuickTime? I'm getting a dead "plugin" link, and I really don't want to install iTunes again and delete it again and clean my registry, etc. Plus, I fill the hard disk at an astonishing rate- the "plugin" is 57 MB compressed....

Can someone convert this to .WAV or .MP3 or something that doesn't require more plugin installs?

From what I was able to listen to, it was an outstanding show. This cocksucker with his NY TV show was so full of sh*t, he smelled over the internet. Me, him, a ball pean hammer and all his troubles would be gone. What a smug and utter loser. Dumbass.

I'm calling Alex Jones and John Stadtmiller tomorrow and asking them why they got scooped by Air America. Time for the pussy footing to be over with. Sumbitches.

I'll let you know what happens, if anything. God damn on hold bullshit in both places.

Rob:

Thanks for posting the off-air discussion! I wish some of this had made it to air. They had so many frigin ads - it just about drove me nuts! It sounds like there were lots of people tuned in. The truth will out!

Interesting question, albert.

I don't know the answer but I'm sure someone of an investigative nature could dig into it if they were of a mind to.

I haven't listened to the whole show yet, only the "off air" piece that Rob posted. From what I've read posted here it sounds like over all the experience was frustrating for most everyone involved. Maybe that is the plan. There could also be a "give them just enough rope to hang themselves" aspect to it, too.

I'll not pass final judgement but it may be that "talk radio" is not our medium. One has to be precise, concise, quick and never get flustered.

What do we know about the DNA samples? What is their chain of custody? Who are the people this slacker said "weren't here" -- the ones who allegedly collected the charred passenger remains? What military facility did the DNA analysis again? What other 'work product' have these people produced? Has anyone but government officials even seen these DNA results?

Just wondering aloud.

In any case, I HATE ADVERTISING!! I don't watch TV and I don't listen to Radio -- except for shows like this. But even then, I absolutely LOATH having my attention span broken up into segments garnished with some lame ploy to get me to buy something. Or several somethings. I also HATE "interviewers" who, in actuality, are more interested hearing themselves talk than their guest(s). I won't subject myself to that kind of programming unless there is some overriding reason to 'tune in'.

Attention is a resource. We have to learn to use it wisely.

dMole, it IS an MP3. Here is the direct link: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/p4t/AAR.mp3

Since rob has embedded it in his post my guess would be that there is some setting in whatever browser you are using (or some system setting) that tells it to open an mp3 with iTunes. If you can find that setting, you should be able to change it to open an embedded MP3 with whatever media player you have installed. I'm a Mac person not a Windows guy so I could be wrong about that, but it would be my guess.

Thanks painter! Haven't listened to it yet, but the direct link was pure gold! Ironic that the artiste is doing "tech support" for the guy who has been soldering/building/sometimes-programming his own computers since the early 1980's, no?

In my defense, I DO keep my browser, cookies, ISP, ActiveX, JAVA, and damn near everything else under a fairly tight "lockdown"...

"Ironic," might not be exactly the right word for it but I'm happy if I was of any help.

We needed more time.

Troops.. its time to rally. Take Cary's advice above. Just do it.