This will be a difficult read, but I have been trying to get a handle on this for some time. I'm not going to be talking about the "Gogi"/Apollo-Artemis-connected "wolf-line" Black Sea tribes that produced the Viking/Saxon/Frank invasions of Europe from the north, but rather a different branch which took a route from Greece through Italy. I've ignored this branch only because I didn't understand it. (Maybe I still don't , but without addressing this we can never understand the roots of the all-important Brusse clan who came to rule Scotland.)
This Italian route seems to trace to the Spartans ....who were these people who won the Trojan war? Where were they from? Where did they go? I know they must fit into this dragon-cult business somehow, for they are said in Greek myth to have sprung from the teeth of the Ares dragon (which Cadmus slew). They fit the mould too, they were the supreme fighting force of their time. They waged battle bare-ass naked except for their armor, and when they were stabbing their foes from an unbroken line behind their shields with their hoplite spears and pikes they imagined they were "f#@king" their opponents (as described in Pressfield's Gates of Fire).
I intended to try and dissect John's "Crisp 'n Claro Picture" chapter here, but there was so much background that, without addressing, rendered my goal impossible. It led me on a chase though that may answer that Spartan question. The key is in the similarity of terms such as Sheba, Suebi, Sabini, Savona, Subartu etc., and a related slew of "Sam" terms like Samothrace (hot-bed of Cybele cult activity in Greece), Samosota and even the biblical Samson. I came to understand that this had something to do with a separate influx of "dragon" migration into Europe through Italy giving Swabia and Switzerland their names, but past that I couldn't wrap my head around it. Finally I think I can post something.
It's interesting that my look into both this "Sheba/Subartu/Sam" business and a my curious discovery that the Arpad name of Hungary's early rulers is similar to Arwad, an island off the coast of Syria, both took me to the same local, an area I hadn't looked at before. There is a once-sacred mountain on the coast of Turkey just north of the Syrian border currently known as Mt. Aqraa. It was Mt. Zephon/Zaphon in the bible, and it served as the center of Ba'al worship for pagans living in northern Canaan just as Mt. Hermon did for those living farther south near Israel. The Hittites (a powerful force in ancient Anatolia) called it Mt. Hazi. The Hittites left behind tablets written in Cuneiform, some of them in Akkadian, which points to Mesopotamian roots or influence. They called their own kingdom 'land of the Hatti".
Near this mountain is a river called the Orontes. Meanwhile, there was an early (and long-ruling) dynasty which built up the Armenian empire (circa 1-3 centuries BC) who were called the Orontids. The dynasty that has ruled in Colchis/Georgia for so long (even to this day?) , the Bagratids/Bagrationis, also claim Orontid origins. Wikipedia tells me the Armenian Orontid dynasty harks back to Iranian roots, and that makes me recall what I just learned about the mythical home of the Sumerian goddess Innana, Kerman/Magan, in modern Iran. Then I start to wonder, were the Armenian Orontid dynasty and the Orontes river in northern Syria both named for Orion!???
Just north and around the bend from Mt. Hazi/Zephon is Cilicia in modern Turkey (Anatolia). There were two Cilicias actually, the one that's on all of the maps, and a second one that Greek myths described as being on the west coast of Anatolia near Troy. This western part of Anatolia is referred to as 'Troad', and it's here you find the ancient city of Troy, Lydia, and Mt. Ida which was the center of Cybele/Kybele (the Great Mother) worship that I keep going on about. The king of Thebe (not to be confused with Thebes in Greece) in this second Cilicia in the west was a Greek figure known as Eetion, and he is almost certainly the same person as another guy named Iasion. Eetion/Iasion had a brother, Dardanus, who founded Dardania in this same area on Mt. Ida. Dardanus' brother Iasion is credited with founding certain "mystic rites" practiced on the nearby island of Samothrace, and a group of Dardanians also were said to have migrated there. Cadmus passed through Samothrace too in his search for Europa, who had been stolen by Zeus from her home in Phoenicia. Cadmus wound up marrying the daughter of Ares (god of War) Harmonia, slew the Ares dragon, planted its teeth in the ground and out sprang the Spartans (as per the myths). (I hope I got all that right - bear with me, all of this should connect quite nicely.)
These "mystic rites" which Eetion/Iasion took to Samothrace were the rites of the Kabeiri (= cult of Cybele). The Kabeiri are associated with (or even the same peoples as) the Corybantes of Colchis/Phrygia:http://www.maicar.com/GML/CORYBANTES.html
The CORYBANTES, the CABIROI, the DACTYLS and the TELCHINES are sometimes represented as identical with the CURETES, and sometimes as kinsmen of one another (see below).
The CABIROI are the children of Hephaestus and Cabiro, a Thracian woman ...Three of them ... are said to be the children of Cadmilus, who is also a son of Hephaestus and Cabiro. But those who said that the CORYBANTES are sons of Zeus and Calliope, also say that the CORYBANTES and the CABIROI are identical...
These Great Mother-worshiping cults include the Curetes, who in Greek myth banged their shields together to drown out the cries of the infant Zeus to protect him from being eaten by his father, Cronus (Saturn in Latin). The noisy orgastic rituals performed by these cults are referred to in sources as "Bacchic frenzy" or a "Pyrrhic dance". "Pyr" in Greek means fire, and Bacchus was simply the Roman counterpart of Dionysus, god of wine and "inspirer of ritual madness" (Wiki). Now we see why so many of these tribes which practiced these "mystic rites" are always associated with Dionysus in the Greek myths.
Cybele's consort was Attis, who famously went crazy and whacked off his own genitals, mimicked by Cybele's Corybante Eunich followers perhaps, and definitely later by the Galli priests of Rome when Cybele's cult had become popular there. Attis is often associated with the aforementioned Iasion (brother of Dardanus), and Iason's alter-ego Eetion matches "Attis" even better. Even closer is "Aeetes", who ruled Colchis. All these names and places might be a little confusing, but they all seem to fit neatly into a pattern, the common thread being Great Mother worship.
The geographer Strabo reported that the mother of the Kabeiri was a Thracian woman, Kabeiro. The Greeks had a phrase - "drunk as a Thracian", and they were a wild and fearless people. Ponder on these terms when you place them side by side ... Thracian/Thraco/Dacian/Draco.
There's another word hidden there in the name of the mother of the Kabeiri, Kabeiro ... Kabbalah.
If that doesn't convince, the Halybes of Colchis (where the Corybantes are also usually said to reside) were alternately the Chalybes, and Chaldea was the birthplace of Kabalah mysticism (near Sumer). John has more evidence along these lines, including the idea that horse in Latin may well be Caballo/Cavallo simply because Kabalah worshipping knights rode around on horses (and Thracians were also a horse-peoples). This makes me wonder if all of these Black Sea area terms (like "Khalib") may not also ultimately derive from Kabalah by a simple swapping of syllables, not least because Cybele/Kybele is very close to "Kabalah".
To add even more evidence, I have a 19th century map of the area around Mt. Hazi/Zephon and what do I see plastered across a big area just east of the coast? Chalybonitis !!! This is either an obvious indicator that the Halybes were there at some point, or a direct referrence to Chaldea.
Dionysus, the patron of wine and ritual madness was the son of Zeus and Semele, and 'John' (Ladon-Gog) believes that Semele is where terms like Samothrace got their "Sam" element. There is another island off of Anatolia called Samos, and here you find one of the largest temples ever erected in the Greek theatre - a temple dedicated not to Zeus, but to his wife Hera (in a similar "Great Mother" role).
Another conspicuous "Sam" term is Samson, associated, like Cybele, with Lions and Bees. Samson was of the Tribe of Dan through his father, Manoah. Manoah, Manoah, why does that sound familiar??? It looks like Mannu! Not only was Manu the Hindu progenitor of mankind, but there was a Mannu king of Kerman/Magan. So we're back in Iran again, which is interesting because the Elamites were one of four "winds", the other three being Sumer, Akkad and Subartu - Elam being in modern Iran along the eastern side of the Persian gulf, which included (the home of Sumer's Great-Mother Innana) Kerman. The Kassites of Elam became so powerful that they took over Sumer for a time. The Kassites might not have produced the Hittites or the Hati, but Cati/Hazi/Khassi/Hatti/Hittite and Kassite sure look like related peoples and the Kassites and the Hittites were in fact allied and the royalty families of each intermarried (as did Kassite and Egyptian royalty !!!!). http://www.answers.com/topic/kassites
A map below which shows the land of the Subartu actually has the Kassites and the Kizzuwadna of Cicilia listed as related peoples.
Again, I'm no expert on this stuff, and simply following John's lead with regard to a fundamental connection between Hazi/Cati/Khassi/Hati etc., but these terms seem to closely follow Saba/Sam terms around in place names and I'm trying to get a handle on it. What surprises me most is that it's starting to look like the original hunch I had at the beginning of this thread, that the root of the dragon was in Sumer, is, not only correct, but traceable. (Lately I have no doubt.)
It gets even simpler though ...
John, trying to make sense of something written by Strabo the Geographer: "...there was this that caught my eye : "...when [Aeskhines' mother] conducted initiations, that [Aeskhines] joined her in leading the Dionysiac march, and that many a time he cried out 'evoe saboe,' and 'hyes attes, attes hyes'; for these words are in the ritual of Sabazios [Zagreos] and the Mother... - Strabo, Geography 10.3.18" (Zagreos brackets not mine).
I stared at that cry. What did it mean. I went searching online to find the meaning because it wasn't given in the article. I couldn't find the translation. But as I stared at the phrase, knowing that "attes" was Attis, it hit me like a ton of bullion that "saboe" was Kybele! And when I saw that Zagreus was the same as Sabazios, it was like when a man searches for pecans under a pecan tree, months after harvest when nuts are scarce, and when he sees one and stoops to pick it up, he looks forward and sees two more, and as he picks them up he looks slightly to the side and sees four more. ... terms like "Saboe" and "Sabazios" were golden, for they are easily discernible as Sheba terms. Kybele was Sheba, or so I thought at first. In reading on, I realized that the Kybele cult was instead taken over by Sheba Hebrews. However, this does not exclude the possibility that the Kybele cult had itself been founded by an earlier wave of Shebeans into Phrygia, though Dedanites (from northern Syria/Asshur) may have been superior at first.
I went immediately to an article on Sabazios, and learned that the term is to be likely understood as Saba-Zeus or Saba-Dios, and that the Romans viewed it as the cult of "Jupiter Sabazius."...http://bvio.ngic.re.kr/Bvio/index.php/Sabazios
Sabazios was a Thracian/Phrigian diety, a "nomadic horseman and sky father god", associated with the legend of the Thracian Horseman. Two things worth mentioning ... the conspicuous similarity between the word Kabbalah and the Latin for horse - Caballo, and the fact that this Thracian Horseman legend continued in the guise of dragon-slaying St. George, the patron saint of England. Now that I have talked about Elam and the Kassites, I can add this as well - from Answers.com, "Kassites: Originally one of the Elamite tribes living in the Zagros mountainous district east of Babylon....it is probable that their sacred animal, the horse, was introduced into Mesopotamia. Horse-breeding and riding were established skills among the Kassites."
More evidence that we're getting close to the root of the "dragon-cult" to pile on .... here's a very interesting little page about "Catti" and "Cassi" names which evidence "Hitto-Phoenician" penetration into Britain - most curiously, Cornwall, which was once called Danmoni (the tin-mines of the Tuatha de Danaan). http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pob/pob_ch16.html
And while I'm digressing, what about that other "Sam" term, our own "Uncle Sam"?? The two most widely accepted explanations for that nickname for the US are detailed here:http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/6...in-of-uncle-sam
The two accounts are that either "Sam" was a meat-packer, or that the nickname was started by an army regiment. I'm suspicious of both though for a couple of reasons. The first account was written 30 years after the fact, and the location of Sam Wilson's meat-packing business was, ... Troy (!). The name of the army regiment named in the second version is no less auspicious, the US Light Dragoons. These "myths" take the same form as every other Greek, biblical or Medeival legend I've run into which describes the course of this "dragon-cult", the myth-writers hide the truth and yet leave telling clues ... maybe to amuse themselves. I think our own "Uncle Sam" is yet another nod to Semele, the Orontid Sames kings, Samson and every other Great Mother worshiping "Sam" city and island in the Greek theatre.
If you travel a little ways north along the Euphrates from the area east of Mt. Hazi/Zephon I started at, you get to what was the land of the Subartu in antiquity. I can't resist but point out that Subartu was directly adjacent to what another of these maps posted above has as "Chalybonitis".
Notice that the Kassites and the Kizzuwadna of Cilicia are listed as related peoples (!). Now, look at what the land is called alittle later in history ...
When I saw that I about fell off my chair, for I had been reading about Sophia, the "Great Mother" as embraced by the Byzantines and Varangian Rus (see earlier post). The fact that this area was ruled by the Orontids makes it a double whammy.
John associates the Subartu with the Sepharvites, and also with various "Sam" terms, claiming that they all pertain somehow to Sheba, a biblican grandson of Abraham. (This is all unclear, partly because there were several Shebas in the bible.) I didn't see such an affinity between all these terms and was skeptical at first, but there was a city on the Euphrates in Sophene (formerly Subarta) founded by Sames, a ruler of the Orontid dynasty called Samosata. What really convinced me though, was when I stumbled onto a list of Babylonian calender terms - http://www.livius.org/caa-can/calendar/cal...an.html#Shabatu
So there you have it, Sabatu, Shebat, and Samiyamas all being the same word in different dialects. I'm no expert on this stuff, but I'd imagine that these ancient peoples named their months for gods just like everyone else.
Who are the Sepharvites? Here is what the bible said about them:
2 Kings 17:31
"...and the Sepharvites burned their children in the fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech [solar and lunar dieties] the gods of Sepharvaim."
Now watch John (Ladon-Gog) connect these child sacrificing pagan ways right back to Mt. Zaphon/Hazi:"Mount Hazi has been identified as the Biblical mount Zephon, but very likely the founders of this city (by that name) were from Zaphon, which, as seen in Zondervan's Bible Atlas (8th printing ), was on the east side of the Jordan in what was the land of Ammon...the very nation (from the blood of Lot and his unknown wife) that the Bible says was the chief carrier of Molech!"
Ahhh, Molech, the cooker of children.
What does all this have to do with the question I posed at the beginning of this post, 'Who were the Spartans'?
It's simple. The terms are practically the same ....
Subartu = Sparta.
More to come ...