I was looking at Google Earth and finding the spot of impact on the outer wall of the Pentagon and I see it is:

77 degrees, 3 minutes of arc, 30 seconds of arc west longitude

= 77deg 3.5'

(also digits 77 & 33)


From the Pentagon website the wall height is listed as

77 feet 3.5 inches


http://pentagon.afis.osd.mil/facts-area.html


I find it rather odd that the numbers in the wall height match the longitude of the spot of impact on the outside wall. I do realize that the builders of the Pentagon located this building and this part of the outside wall was at a longitude with digits that matched the wall height (I wonder if there was some special plaque, stone or feature at that spot), but for Flight 77 to hit pretty much this longitude is statistically odd.


Other numbers associated with the Pentagon are;


- ground height above sea level(ASL)= 33 feet (important secret society number)
- Flight 77 (Boeing 757) said to hit
- Pentagon wall = 77 feet 3.5 inches high
- 5 rings of 77 (775) feet 3.5inches
- impact longitude: 77deg 3.5' west
- 7 stories ... 5 above ground, 2 below
- volume = 77,015,000 cu ft


- London bombings= 7-7-5


It seems that 7 (and 33) was important to the designers way back before Sept 11, 1941 (day of ground breaking for construction)



Is it possible the people behind the events were concerned with numbers , symbols and connections that they would want to aim the 'whatever' at that spot for some symbolic reason? (or am I being obsessive). The fact that the Pentagon has so many 77's built in and the fact of FLight 77 and the longitude of impact makes me consider the pssibility.

Is it possible a B757 could be aimed so precisely on purpose (well, some would argue even hitting the building was unlikely let alone a specific spot of longitude on one wall ;-) )





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I compared photos to try to be accurate for the location on the wall. Is it coincidence that the impact spot does match a spot with longitude with same numbers within that small area?


Some other details on 911 are making me take seriously the idea that the people responsible were very concerned with numbers, symbols and even astronomical alignments(perhaps they believed they had astronological importance or perhaps just historic symbolic significance within their 'secret teachings') and timings.
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I have also discovered that about at the same time of impact of Flight 11 at WTC, planet Mercury was just rising on the eastern horizon (of course the Sun was already up so this would not have been visible to the eye) ... found through Stellarium software. Also at the moment of impact at the Pentagon, the bright important star Spica was just rising on the eastern horizon. This star is historically important in Virgo and I've read has meaning to secret societies.


Flight 11 impact at WTC = planet Mercury just rising on eastern horizon





The interesting connection to Mercury is this:

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I found out that Sept 11 is the first day of the old Egyptian calendar and (still used = coptic calendar) the start of the month of Thout


http://www.copticchurch.net/easter.html


This month was for the god Thoth who the Greeks saw as their god Hermes and thus the same as the Romans god Mercury!

(Thoth and Seshat seem to represent Mercury and Venus ... Thoth and Seshat are pictured on the solar boat with Ra ... which makes sense because Mercury and Venus never get too far from the Sun in the evening or morning either side of the Sun, being planets whose orbits lie inside the orbital ellipse of Earth closer to the Sun).


So we have Mercury just on the eastern horizon at the very moment of impact of Flight 11 on Sept 11, the first day of the month of Thoth ( Hermes, Mercury).


Is this coincidence or is whatever group who was behind Sept 11 events very much into number symbolism, astronomical alignments and other patterns.


Mercury was also the god associated with "mark"ets, "merch"ants, com"merce" (all from latin merx) and theivery. Now who could be 'worshipping' a god like that

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I'm not saying these had any affect on events as in astrology (I don't believe that at all) but only that people who planned the timings were concerned for matching these events up with astronomical alignments.

how about this one, on 11 september 1973, the usg initiated a coup in chile. taking out one of the older democratic republics in the western hemisphere. replacing it with a military junta.

how does that date figure into your nonsense?

how does that date figure into your nonsense?
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You might wish to label it nonsense upon inspection and that is your right if you wish. I personally don't know if it is nonsense or not although I feel some of it shows possible connections.


I'm just pointing out things which may be connections.


If certain people did have a strong belief and need to make patterns of numbers in events they carry out, these could show up.


You just immediately label this nonsense but the numbers of the impact longitude on the wall matches the wall height?


77 3.5


That seemed very strange to me


Of course, since the planners of the Pentagon built it so that edge of the wall actually was at longitude 77 3.5' west (we would have to investigate if this was done on purpose for some reason or accidental) and so there is actually some probability that the FLight 77 object would impact at that spot but it's still suspicious enough to warrent more investigation (IMHO).


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Mercury rising at moment Flight 11 hits WTC1 on Sept 11, first day of coptic calendar and month for god Thoth (Hermes ... Mercury)
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(again, I'm not saying these gods exist or there was some astrological force which I don't believe in... I'm saying the people who carried out 911 might have had concern for these things)


Don't you at least find it suspicious that Flight 11 hit the WTC (they form an 11 themselves) on Sept 11 and that the Flight 77 (supposedly) hit the Pentagon which within it's construction has numerous 77's including the longitude of the point of impact on the wall?


If someone doesn't find this interesting after it's been pointed out then I think they need to reconsider and think whether their thinking automatically filters out such things as nonsense without even considering it.


Again , I'm not saying there was some mysterious affect from numerology and astrology that "guided" events .... I'm saying it might be possible that the planners were very concerned with matching their planned events and times with astronomical alignments and numbers becuase their philosophy regarded such patterns as important.

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I don't call this nonsense .... I call it suspicious connections that should be investigated more.

Some of the numbers may be coincidence but I think just automatically claiming everything as nonsense is not being open-minded.


If this was a simple crime and police found connections between events and some other details, they might be able to determine that the criminal might have certain beliefs and it might help find him or even predict future events.

Facinating.

We know they were following a plan,
in line, with a very long term agenda,
based on ancient myth, that has been
written into the stars, through astrology.
It is seen as a common thread in all major religions.
...and all ages.

It's the same thing.
The same thing, like a crystaline substrate,
the same patterned, multi-generational,
long-term business plan.

How exact must they be?

If this is the case,
Can we figure out what they will do to us next,
more precicely?


...but, more likely,
by using similar numbers in their diagrams,
could also just be, intentionally done,
to confound and confuse researchers.

imo, lunk

Hello and welcome z.


As near as I can tell, the "impact" was alleged to have been centered at column 14 of Section 4, Wedge 1 of the Pentagon. See my post #13 (yes, I know ) here:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10764159

Google Earth/Wikipedia put the "impact" at N 38.870950° -77.058270° [W]

If you prefer, that is 38 52' 15.42" N 77 03' 29.772" W. I've worked on tracking down that location for a while, and I used a CAD program and several different resources while doing so.

I used that information to approximately locate the "C ring hole" at N 38.871301° W 77.057432°

or 38 52' 16.6836" N 77 03' 26.7552" W.

I have started a key coordinates thread here if you want to look some other location numbers over:

Coordinates of Key Locations, Google Earth, etc.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=14832

"As near as I can tell, the "impact" was alleged to have been centered at column 14 of Section 4, Wedge 1 of the Pentagon. See my post #13 (yes, I know ) here:

38 52' 15.42" N 77 03' 29.772" W"
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WHen I go to Google Earth, that location is a noticable bit inside the image of the Pentagon so if that is the centre of a column, it isn't the outside wall surface. My measurement was the outside wall (or at least what I saw visually at Google Earth)

The location I found was judged to be within the small area impact



I just find it very suspicious that within the impact zone , there is a spot of longitude within digits which match the wall height.


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My related question is that I wonder if the designers of the Pentagon purposefully had a spot of the exterio of the Pentagon at a longitude matching the digits of the wall height. It's actually a bit odd that the Pentagon website has a page specifically listing a bunch of numbers and dimensions.... do all buildings do that (seems a bit obsessive).


I am wondering if there was some special plague, key stone or something at that location.


I'm still very suspicious that these numbers suggest the "whatever-it-was" was aimed at this spot on purpose .