Facts like the plane approaching on the north side of the Citgo, pulling up into an ascent, and then being seen banking away from the buildng IMMEDIATELY AFTER the explosion at an alt of 50-100ft, Mr. President?!?!

Who was it again that claimed responsibility for the event? I forget...

"I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation,"

~Osama Bin Laden

Or the fact that everyone in the Bush administration and NORAD sat on their hands while the attack was in progress, because no one could ever imagine such a thing.

NEWS HEADLINE
US PRESIDENT ADMITS ARAB CONFLICTS ARE WARS OF DECEPTION

PRESIDENT OBAMA PLAYS HIS HAND

same sh*t, different asshole.

An who says German's have no sense of humor.

Mr. Obama went abroad and wowed the multitudes, using terms and addressing subjects that had to sound different to Middle Eastern listeners. He sounded new and fresh, and displayed a more even-handed approach to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. One way you could tell it was more even-handed is that the Israeli spokesman denounced him as anti-semitic even before the speech. 

Then came the clinker. Mr. Obama reinforced the government-approved conspiracy theory that 19 arab hijackers knocked down the World Trade Center and attacked the Pentagon. I guess he didn't get the word that the weight of evidence now shows that the Trade Center fell due to a large amount of hi-tech, military-grade explosive called nano-thermite. So when the new President, as did the old President, cites 9/11 as justifying continued military adventurism in the name of fighting terror, he’s a more personable pitchman doing business at the same old stand.

(Letter to my local newspaper)

derselbe sheissen, anderen arsloch

Tonight I watched both Canadian and US media and they were bi-polar on this event. On CNN we saw the similing happy faces in the crowd; CBC presented the other side showing five clips of reactions by people who are unconvinced and very unhappy with the last 8 years, houses destroyed and so on. CBC's Peter Mansbridge began with the pic of Obama's speech in khartoum, Sudan and said, 'but not everyone's buying it. Then ran the clips.

Its disconcerting that Obama is laying bricks on the wall that builds the lie. I sense the Canadian media is angry in general about many things this week, and in particular, they know we being taken for a ride on that one, and they are powerless to do anything about it. The anger simmers below the surface. I think it must be the type you can't fully completely contain.

I want to believe Obama is sincere, because once upon a time I surely did. Now it's either that or he's pulling one hell of a good con job, but on who? Is he playing for the puppet master, could be; or is he playing the man behind the curtain and one day will sieze real power.

It's possible he, President Obama and Richard the lion hearted have some things in common such as dealing with the same outside power structure. I am positive Obama knows of Richard Gage. I'm sure Obama gets it. But now the media is beginning to shift and the question begs, 'so what now McDuff?'

Obama came out today with the war was a set up. Its a big statement to make. Bush said, "You're either with us or against us." I am seeing a change in Obama, (are you?) to the extent that he's laying off blame on the previous Emperor, however, at the same time he's high on a scaffolding troweling bricks onto the smooth mortar of lies layed on 9/11. So in my best King's English, 'What gives, McDuff?'

A few weeks ago, i was confident Obama was a made man. Yet i still mollycoddle the notion he's working from the inside-out against the dark forces working from the outside-in. I suspect we, the audience will experience a moment of truth soon enough, the big test Biden forewarned. At that moment, we will surely be afraid.

Bush - Obama, think 'bad-cop good-cop'. All you have to do is look at who Obama's advisors are. When I saw that Zbignew Bzrezinski, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission (along with David Rockefeller) was advising Obama on foreign policy during the campaign, I knew the fix was in. The darling of the elite. Here to correct all of Bush's mistakes while he leads us toward one-world-government.

David Icke's 2006 presentation is up on the WeAreChange site right now. Scroll down to the bottom. His take on 911 and the Illuminati puppet show would be comical if it were not very sad.

Yes, you are right of course. I got dilusional there for a minute. Hope-spells are hard to break.

I agree Jim. I get sucked in to those "hope-spells" all the time.

I guess down deep I'm still a dreamer. The eternal optimist too.

I'm keep telling myself to pay attention to the facts. FACTS. FACTS. FACTS!


rc

We are fixated on 9/11, and I think, rightly so. But putting the last several years in perspective, there are several crimes to talk about. We are protesting a monstrous act - what has to be a false-flag operation, where a shadowy group of demonized foreigners was likely framed in a carefully choreographed similation of a surprise attack on landmarks resulting in almost 3000 deaths. But there is another crime that HAS been exposed. It has been shown that the allegations leading to an invasion of another sovereign country were all false. As the revelations unfold on torture, it appears obvious that the primary reason for use of the inhuman practices we hoped were left behind with the Spanish Inquisition was to elicit FALSE admissions by the miserable wretches who had been "rendered" especially for the purpose of getting them to "admit" that they were allied with Saddam - for the record. It worked. Even the "mastermind" of 9/11 admitted to a bank job on a bank that had not been built yet.

It was a war of aggression, and we know now what happens to those who commit the crime of starting such a war, and win that war, or at least kill a huge number of people in an act of war and don't lose.

Nothing.

We represented in 1944 that the Nazis' crime was not losing the war, but STARTING the war - a war of aggression. But when we invade sovereign countries on trumped-up reasons, we can muscle enough UN members to call it justified, even though nothing about the reasons to go to war panned out, and there were very good reasons to doubt them from the beginning. Instead of 3000 deaths, we are talking about somewhere between 68,000 and over half a million dead in Iraq due to the war of aggression. We are "moving forward", and that blot on our reputation as a country (what was left of it after the Gulf of Tonkin) (come to think of it, what wars did we NOT fake something to get into?) is glossed over and the architects retire into the well-funded think tanks to write their self-justifying books.

So much for the pretense that we operate on principles representing our best instincts.

Now our President calls it a war of choice in a speech in Cairo. That represents at least a mild rebuke to the authors of the Iraq war and their supporters, but nobody will go to jail, nobody will stand in the dock shamefaced and have their crimes recited, or swing from the gibbet.

So here is the point. We have monstrous crimes that are really not in question which are not going to get anyone tried and convicted for anything (if you don't count those hillbillies who were very zealous in carrying out the official policy of "gitmoizing" Abu Ghraib but documented their actions with them newfangled digital cameras. They just overestimated the appetites of Americans for full-color photographs of ass pyramids.)

So if 9/11 were to be investigated, and found to be a neocon conspiracy, with complicity of, say, the CIA and Mossad, what do you think would happen? I have projected that it would be the end of the U. S. Government, and that realization is what prevents a lot of people with all their marbles in that particular game (including their shadowy masters in the various branches of the shadow government) cleaving to the official conspiracy theory. But is that really likely? We are the presumed monsters who committed aggression resulting in tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths in a country who did not attack us, and could not have. And nothing has happened.

I would really like to believe that if we succeed in getting the truth out and widely known, it would result in a sea change in the way our government works, and a true democracy would rise up in place of this oligarchy of military and Corporate interests.

But half of the sheeple would dismiss it as liberal propaganda, and 40% would say "so what? It's old news". The rest would be horrified, but be ignored.

That crash you just heard is my last illusion shattering.

A FABLE, THE WATCHMAN (it makes good bedtime reading):

Wasn't a very loud crash, Maturin
I don't think your illusions about Obama have been big from the start!

And as long as there are people like you, who (with their experience of life and background) are able to connect the dots, draw the right conclusions, and who have the talent to put everything in a nutshell as you just did in your excellent article, there is real hope.

Nice post, M42

I agree with what was said here.

Beautiful post M42. I really enjoy reading your posts. And that was truly one of your best. You have such a gift to not only realize what the truth really is,but what it means and where it leads. Not to mention,explaining it so eloquently.

Thank you

rc

Unh huh... This coming from the idiot which released THIS on the web.

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/nuclear_m.../02/220844.html


There are simply no words. < shakes head >

Edit - redacted link

Shelton,

I concur with many of the sentiments you expressed. However, I am more optimistic that justice will prevail regarding the undeniable monstrous crimes you mentioned.

I believe learning the truth about 9/11 will be the key to obtaining justice for all these crimes. Although America would probably prefer to ignore the torture and illegal wars of aggression issues, Americans cannot ignore and will not forgive the mass murder of 3,000 of their fellow citizens, nor the worst act of treason in the history of our republic.

And thanks to your efforts, the efforts of Pilots for 9/11 Truth and other similar groups, and the efforts of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of individuals supporting it, progress is being made every day towards learning the truth about 9/11.

In the last 4 months, both of New York's U.S. Senators and former Vice President Mondale have given qualified support for a new 9/11 investigation. And they did not denigrate the need to find the truth.

It also seems very likely the New York City ballot initiative for a new 9/11 investigation will appear on the ballot in the November 2009 election. If passed, and I believe it will, it will gain a lot of attention and stir up a lot of questions about what exactly happened on 9/11 and also the sham 9/11 Commission investigation.

And although we frequently don't hear about it, good progress is being made outside of the U.S.; in Germany, Denmark, Italy, the UK, Japan, and elsewhere. In my opinion, even if the truth about 9/11 continues to be suppressed in the U.S., our country will eventually be forced by others countries to confront the truth.

The road to the truth about 9/11 has been long and hard. We have not yet arrived at the destination and it will continue to be a rocky path to follow, but we are making progress every day.

"Al-Qaida chose to ruthlessly kill..." -- President Obama

This is something that Baha'u'llah has to say about those statesmen who misuse their power.

After one such statesman passed away, Baha'u'llah wrote of his death thus:



Be just Mr President, Senators, Congressmen, be just ...for

with fire we test the gold and with gold we test our servants.

I guess that possibility is what keeps me showing up at this particular pop stand - that and people like Rob, Alan, and the rest of the community. Thanks for coming to my pity party.

Good OpEd maturin42. Thowing in my two cents.

Its different now than in '63 when the media was fully controled. Now a portion of the media is in the hands of we the people. This fourm is media. The number of people with awarness of 9/11 as a conspiracy is growing because of the Internet

As for the understanding of 9/11 in Europe, say in France and Germany, it is easier for them to learn 9/11 was an inside job because its not so unthinkable. Europeans are more pragmatic about why Iraq was invaded. A false flag operation can be explained to everyday people in an almost matter of fact way without encountering such understandable disbelief as in the US. Its not unpatriotic to consider the possibility. Nevertheless the media is corporately controled there too, and the discussion has not yet gone mainstream. It will come out into the main stream eventually. Its inevitable.

This one is just too big, too significant to keep a lid on when 62% of the Western world is reading public media. The truth will out. The Internet could be the revolutionary counter-force at work.

Of course, I don't believe that "Barry's Boys" have ceased the TSA-nal probing at US airports just yet.

Along those lines, this has been a fairly good website:

http://www.homelandstupidity.us/

I told my boss, a Chinese national, about 9-11 the other day.

She didn't flinch.

It was almost as if she expected such crimes from the US gov.

"These are not opinions to be debated; these are facts to be dealt with," he (president obama) said bluntly.

It has just occured to me one important point:

Because the president is refuting the conspiracy, does that mean that they™ are feeling some heat from the truthers?!?!

I think the word must be getting out better than we think.

http://politikditto.blogspot.com/2009/06/y...ama-nigger.html

colonial, Obama knows Obama has drawn a line in the sand, agree / disagree, and;

Obama is digging him self in. yes / no

colonial, how do you see it playing out?

Issues of scientific and historical fact are not matters well-suited for political adjudication.

We have no windows into mens' minds, and as yet still a vey fragmented picture.

It seems to me that there are two people whose complicity would be essential for any plot to succeed:


One is John Ashcroft; the other is Rudy Giuliani. Their motives may be difficult to ascertain.

Several consequences of "9/11" stand out: One is the introduction of draconian controls within the US. Another is a shift to the Right in politics. Less obvious is the transfer of power from Bush to Cheney.


Major shifts in politics are usually glacially slow. More and more people will learn more and more accurate understandings of the events of "9/11". More an more people will abandon allegiance to previously-held theories as time passes. It would be a great mistake to place any great expectations on a single politician making a pronouncement -- would we expect science to work like that?

In the 1440s, Nicholas of Cusa, Cardinal, stated that the Earth revolved around the sun. He stated that our sun was just another star amongst the countless myriads in the sky. He stated that some of these other stars had planets revolving around them, some of them with living beings much like ourselves. What he did NOT assert was that the Sun was at the centre of the Universe; which the Roman Catholic Church stigmatized as Mithraism or Sun-worship.

After "9/11", everyone was despretate to know who had done such a thing. The next day, along came Jerome Hauer (whom I've spoken with, BTW), with a well-crafted story which touches enough necessary bases. It's not surprising that his theory came to be the accepted wisdom. It is a principle in psychological warfare, that if you can keep a story to the forefront for around three days after the event, it will become "accepted wisdom." Subsequent contrary facts will have little traction.

A favorite of mine is the Warren Commission example: It was told by Texas Attorney-General Waggoner Carr, that Lee Harvey Oswald was an employee of J. Edgar Hoover: Carr provided Oswald's staff number and salary details. The Warren Commission "forgot" to mention this, and we had to wait until President Gerald Ford's memoirs to learn the truth. Even now, if you ask a hundred people if they know that Lee Harvey Oswald was an FBI employee, you'll be lucky to find a single one who knows it.

Why expect "9/11" to be any different?

The steady, reliable erosion of belief in the "Official Conspiracy Theory" will continue. More and more people will come to a better understanding. I don't think that there's one big trick that would enable millions of people to change their minds overnight, and if there was, another big trick could turn them around again.


Regards,

Anduril

Still not ready to make nice...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHH8bfPhusM...feature=related

Anduril

How about an economic 911 everybody? Listen carefully, and you'll hear Rep. Kanjorski say; had it been allowed to continue, there would been 5 trillion lost by the market's close. This event happened on 911, 2008 and began very close to the same time that the first tower was struck on 911, 2001. Coincidence? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NMu1mFao3w[/url][/u]

I have an idea. We should have a public trial at an international site covered by world media where all can provide their testimony to the world press. We could invite the government to participate but we know they won´t so we could provide the lawyers/actors to present the government´s case. This would be extremely difficult for the government and most to ignore. I live in Helsinki and would love to be involved in helping to organize this effort and I know people here who would help. Whether it would be here or somewhere else internationally, it would give us the stage to effect the action, attention, and the change that we need. What do you think?

Have you heard of Operation Mockingbird?

I think your idea is great, and if you can do it please give it your best shot.

However, don't be surprised if the CIA controlled media ignores it.

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Reply by Alan H:
Nice play on words. BTW, it's "and" not "an," in case that wasn't just a typo. Even many Americans make this mistake; proper use of grammar is a thing of the past, alas. But there is no "an who." You could have just left that off, completely, but included it would be "And who doesn't.."etc. I'm not trying to a jerk (it just comes naturally). No, really, I'm not. My great, great, great, grandfather was from Germany, and if I know anything about Germans, it is that they are perfectionists. So, I simply thought you'd want to know. Another common mistake you hear people making a lot is using an adjective instead of an adverb to modify a verb-i.e. "You did that so quick."
Quick is an adjective, which is used to modify nouns. A Cheetah is quick. But Cheetah's do not run quick--they run quickly. If a word has an "ly" on the end of it, and it's being used as a modifier, there's a good chance it's an adverb. I highly recommend a book on English grammar and composition. It's one of the smallest books I've ever read, and yet one of the best. Academics hold this book in high esteem: "The Elements of Style," by William Strunk and E.B. White. In paperback, it's probably not more than 150 pages, if that, and yet it covers all the tricky and idiosyncratic parts of English grammar that trip us all up so often: lie, vs. lay; to, two, too; its vs. it's; their, there, they're" and other homonyms; and the difference between adjectives and adverbs, etc, etc. If that weren't enough in such a small book, there's also a brilliantly composed section on style.

Now, to actually address the subject of this blog: I know Osama bin Laden (OBL) never took credit for the 9/11 attacks, and, if he had helped accomplish such an amazing feat (amazing isn't the word Americans would use, of course; for us, it was--and still is-- a day of horror and shock), he would surely have taken credit with pleasure. Has anyone really taken credit for 9/11? Sure, we've been told they have; we've been told they have the "9/11 mastermind" at G.B. OBL seems to have just dropped off the scopes, pretty much. Bush even said once that "OBL was never the goal."
What's always made me suspicious is the claim that the only non-military flight on 9/11-9/12 was a jet that flew all the members of the bin Laden family back home--to Saudi Arabia, I assume. That makes one wonder if the long time business partners of our government and particularly the Bush family, didn't come to some sort of arrangement where OBL would be presented as the bad guy, but would never actually be captured (which would explain why we've let him escape in at least one well known military engagement in which US forces had OBL and his alleged al-Qaida Captains surrounded, but only closed on 3 sides, leaving the 4th side completely open, through which OBL and company easily "escaped.")That story has been confirmed, hasn't it? Didn't even the MSM cover that?

The fact that they had conducted exercises involving the exact events that took place on 9/11 is too coincidental for my taste. Could those experiments have really been not a plan to stop such an attack, but how to disable ("Able Danger" was the name of one of the war-game exercises on 9/11, wasn't it?) military response to such an attack? Of course, this wouldn't have been known by everyone, even those conducting the simulation. However it was ordered, my guess is that the information gained from those simulations, and the planned response of the military, helped whomever may have been an inside player (a real Dick, who should be in Chains) figure out how to diable military response.

Here is an outstanding request, and one that I think would do the 9/11 Truth movement enormous good: If it's even possible, a theoretical physicist, mathematician/statistician should attempt to calculate the odds of all the "strange coincidences" of 9/11: Such as, we know that, in the previous year, 64 planes that went off-course, or turned off their transponders, anywhere near D.C. were all intercepted within 20 mins. That was SOP for any errant aircraft, but a policy that may have been changed, along with pilot's rights to carry a firearm, just a month or two before 9/11. And on 9/11, 4 planes flew around our skies for just under two hours without any official intercept. Now, we know that what caused the fighters from being able to intercept those planes was due to the phantom radar "inserts" (which also ended up on the radar screens of Flight Control & the FAA, which shouldn't have happened); we also know there's a good possibility that flight 93 was in fact shot down. But the officials claimed that their 'war games' increased their (non-existent) response time, and we all know the official Fl-93 story. What we want to show is the improbability of the events of 9/11 happening in the manner officially described. Some things will be difficult to calculate: like 3 steel-framed buildings--one of which was not impacted by a plane-- all collpasing in the exact same manner: straight down through what should have been the path of greatest resistance. This will be difficult to calculate because no steel framed building has ever collpased, before or since 9/11/01. When one adds up the staggering odds of all of these events occurring on the same day, my guess is that it's going to be in at least the billion-to-one range.

I have to say, though, that the strongest argument against there having been an "inside job" aspect to these attacks is that nothing has come out. No one has talked, and even if it were kept highly compartmentalized, there still would have had to have been quite a few people involved, like whomever carried tons of nano-thermite and regular thermite, as well as explosives (thermite is not exposive, it's a chemical agent for cutting through steel like a hot knife through butter--and leaving pools of molten iron) into the twin towers and rigged the place up. With that many people involved, and the severity of the resulting collapses..it's hard to believe no one has come forward. In every other case, from Watergate to Iran-Contra, to the Torture Program, it always comes out eventually. Yet, despite there being a whole enormous comunity of people willingly to listen and support them, no one has come forward to say, "Yeah, we carried explosives into the towers," or whatever. I mean, people who unknowingly participated in this, many of them--if that happened--would realize what they'd help accomplish, and there would be people wanting to get this off their chest. It's just so big, it's hard to imagine that no one has really come forward. There are secrets and lies behind 9/11, and I have little doubt WTC#7 was "pulled," but the majority of them may be not what we expect. From the one person who did come forward, fromer FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, after discovering information indicating corruption and money laundering around 9/11. she was gagged with the State Secrets Act. I've always wondered why those 11 times normal "put options" (bets that stocks will fall)on American and United Airlines weren't investigated. It's true that secrecy privilege protect anyone else from seeing that kind of information, but Congress could certainly subpoenaed that information. This highly indicated foreknowledge, if not by Americans, then by whomever was truly responsible. Why wasn't that investigated??? Or, if it was, why weren't we informed of it?

hehe.. my Gandfather (one of) was Austrian, so i get your point. Yes, its funny you should mention that because I immediately saw the error when i posted it. AND i am kind of compulsive when it comes to correct grammar (when i see the error, that is). BUT this case I didn't make the correction (unusual), perhaps because I was being lazy AND know Carl is German, and he might not notice it or care.

Yes, it should have been the conjunction 'and' used; not the indefinite article 'an'.

Maybe they have come forward. How would you know? If you were involved with it, who would you approach? The FBI? A newspaper?

Say you happened to be in the vicinity of the Pentagon on 9/11 and took a film of a plane flying over the Pentagon as an explosion took place. As a law-abiding citizen, what would you have done with that film?

Yes, because when i am an accessory to crimes of mass murder, or facilitate them, i tend to later go out and spill my guts. the 'no one has talked' issue is a non-argument, unless you can demonstrate that typically after every false flag op killing 1000s "people talk"

they dont.
end of story.

I'm sure people have talked.... but who's listening? the government... the media.... Plus I'm sure there have been alot of 'accidental' deaths, 'suicides' of people that have tried.

Exactly.

Try Dr David Kelly who was suicided for speaking up about the non-existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq

and

Captain Ken Masters who was suicided for heading the inquiry into the SAS soldiers dressed as Arabs with terrorism equipment who had been captured by the Iraqi police. The Brits busted them out of jail then promised "a full inquiry". Captain Masters was a decent and honourable man who was innocent enough to not know that the inquiry would only be a lifetime appointment.

And of course let's not forget the greatest patsy of all, Lee Harvey Oswald, who was shot before he could be found innocent of killing Kennedy.

I snipped the quote but this refers to your whole post Alan H. A thoughtful post to be sure, but the point of view could leave a person on the fence, left trying to build an argument to climb down (by).

I think its fair to say that when a person realizes even one real part of the fake story, then the spell is broken, and other fakery becomes visible. Breaking the spell is explained by Tova Gabrielle as a "negative hallucination ..that is, to not see the obvious, when it contradicts our beliefs." It's mass hypnosis, in other words. She goes on to say, ' We were hypnotized on 9/11. Some of the strategies used to bring about a hypnotic state include shock, repetition of phrases and images, and exploiting people’s sense of vulnerability so that they relinquish their previously held beliefs and endorse something formerly untenable to them. '

This happened for me. Once i saw just one part in the fake story for what it truly was (and what it was not), the rest of the picture was then viewable, impossible to see otherwise, before breaking the negative hallucination.

One doesn't need to see every last drop of the deception, in order to know an illusion existed. True, each missing piece will be important in a court of law if it ever comes to that (i have my doubts it will) but history will convict the central perpetrators nevertheless, eventually dispursing the clouds of coverup to get at the evidenturay facts; some flushed out right here in this media, through the public broadcasting system we are all using. Plus there are the forensics; the science these fellows have done will not go away. WTC controlled demolition is not an urban myth, its a reality that cannot be hidden or cloaked. The truth about the fake story has a following and it's gaining mass everyday.

It appears this plan, in versions updated, was baking in the oven for a long period of time, at least 8 years if not more. The actors are mostly identified and there is no more real deep mystery on the 'how, why, and who' parts of the play. There are still pages missing from the script here and there, but the storyline is clear enough to make sense. The director is highly visible yet the producers, or their executive nominees are not much more than a face or two in the fog. Still, we know they are there. The few remaining dots can be connected over time by true historians, or maybe in a worst case, by anthropolgists.

Meanwhile this play will keep finding venues in the US. There is a growing collective conciousness and at some point critical mass may precipitate the what to do about it stage. En mass the movemnet might go intensely political. Obama at this stage isn't leaving much choice, no other door is open. It could get more interesting if the Austrian school of economics is right, and we are already in a depression. Imagine if something like a black swan happened and suddenly a politician like Ron Paul who wants to audit the fed had an over night backing of 50 million people.

Couple that with the thought that these folks have been manufacturing crises for generations, and successfully shifting the sheepl in their direction. And they are not sitting idle now.

Just thought this was ironic

It occurs to me that there are many hurdles to overcome for the mainstream to accept the 9/11 conspiracy was a mihop or lihop or definitely not the 19 guys with box cutter one.

When the look at the the action taken as a result of 9/11... regardless of whether 9/11 even happened, many people see the world as a cruel place where there are enemies out to get us. And the best approach for the US is to be strong and even strike preventatively because they want to come here and take the good and plenty that America is.

These same people see the immagrants streaming in as trashing America and so there is this siege mentality already there and waiting to be tapped. 9/11 is perhaps just a "see I told you so moment"... as opposed the "wake up America, you've been asleep".

So for this vast group which feels America is exceptional and we have a right to our lifestyle and others naturally are resentful and either want to share in it or take it away.. or destroy it, they don't need to look into the causes of this, they just need to guard against it.

This also is a self fulfilling prophesy for this mindset. We believe we are "exceptional" and that means others naturally resent and covet and want to destroy us. This makes us the cause of the bad that happens, but there is no way out of this because we are not going to change.

If we were to walk back our belief of American exceptionalism everything would change; we would pull back on the militarism and empire, and we "share" as opposed to exploit the rest of the world. That won't work within a capitalist frame. Abandoning capitalism is tantamount to the destruction of America (as we know it) and this essentially drives all policy and the need for empire.

Another reason that they close out reality about 9/11 is that it's quite clear that it leads to untenable conclusions and everyone knows the center cannot hold - it means the great unravelling and nothing short of that. American cannot handle that level of "reinvention" of its body politic.

it would be a progressive collapse of the entire American structure - government, media, business as they all supported the lies which held it together.

What would come after the collapse?

Ironically we are about to find out as capitalism's end game is pulling American apart.

The bigger the lie the easier the sell.

Really coming to grips with 9/11, and I'm not talking about the scenario by which the Bush administration takes the blame, requires an ability to think outside of the box which a lot of people are not capable of. Before people can grasp 9/11, they first have to wrap their heads around the fact that left-right, republican-democrat, etc. are all constructs to keep us distracted, and that the real power, i.e. the 9/11 planners, lie behind the curtain.

Great posts Sanders and SanderO !!! Very,very good. I reread them 3 times! Thank you.


rc

edit add: Those posts were filled with a lot of insight,not to mention,what I feel is the truth.