Hoffman (who, just like Killtown, would have maintained a decent reputation as a humble but required archivist, except for unrealistic pretensions)

1. Hi killtown, just chiming in here because it was Hoffman's stuff that i found early in my search for awarness (i woke up 6 months ago). I thought he was one of the good guys then. Now I have my ears and eyes open, more or less for the reasons you just stated.

2. For the record, as you say, I came to this forum, because of all the places I looked at, I trusted this place, Rob and his posse, so to speak. So far nothing has happened to alter that trust. I feel very safe here, with a bunch of really genuine and good people, where I feel I am not watching my back. If Hoffman is attacking this crowd, he'd better think twice about it.

Be careful JimMac, Killtown and Quest promote the "no-plane" nonsense at the towers. The only reason he and Quest are allowed to post here is because Rob and PFT value free speech.

Killtown has promoted many other really bad theories as well, such as suggesting that the Cory Lidle crash was faked. Many believe is an anonymous disinfo team spreading disinfo that discredits 9/11 truth and makes it seem ridiculous. In fact, on the other side of the coin, people have co-opted the term no planer and applied to the work of PFT and CIT.

Just a heads up.

Be careful JimMac, [Craig] and [Aldo] promote the "no-plane" nonsense at the [Pentagon]. The only reason [Craig] and [Aldo] are allowed to post here is because Rob and PFT value free speech.

[Aldo] has promoted many other really bad theories as well, such as suggesting that the [Flight 93] crash was faked. Many believe [CIT] is a disinfo team spreading disinfo that discredits 9/11 truth and makes it seem ridiculous. In fact, on the other side of the coin, people have co-opted the term [planehugger] and applied to the work of [911research.wtc7.net] and [visibility911.com].

Just a heads up.

1. Hi Jim. Hoffman's site was one of the first "9/11 truth" sites up on the net and they seemed to try to direct people to which 9/11 theories truthers should believe or stay away from. Now their audience seems to be getting smaller and smaller and, IMO, is why they seem to be getting more desperate.

2. You might also like the forum Quest (a member here) and I help run: http://forum.911movement.org/

We don't discriminate against your beliefs.

Who does this sound like?

Of course, it should be noted that Shilltown showed up on a thread about Michael Wolsey and Jim Hoffman where they are basically asserting that we are no planers, equating us to Shilltown. So like clockwork, here comes Shilltown, to act as if we are on the same side, taking up PFT's defense.

Of course, it should be noted that Shilltown showed up on a thread about Michael Wolsey and Jim Hoffman where they are basically asserting that we are no planers, equating us to Shilltown. So like clockwork, here comes Shilltown, to act as if we are on the same side, taking up PFT's defense.

Hey ST, you planning approaching some witnesses in NYC to support your conspiracy theory-that a lot of people happen to consider disinformation? Maybe you can borrow the unknown comic's paper bag and get on camera with some witnesses.

Previous post under review by admin team.

Yawn.

Same ol' tactics huh Shilltown?

Jim, he has been doing this for quite a while. This, we believe, was the original intent of the no plane disinfo at the towers-to allow the REAL 'no impact' events to be lumped in with the disinfo being spread by Shilltown, his co-ops and their "useful idiots" like Quest.

Aldo, I have long respected your work, as well as CIT's and have NEVER had a bad thing to say about you. Are you stil of the opinion that I am a "useful idiot"? I have minded my business and in fact only just became aware of this thread, and I admit I am surprised at this uncalled-for insult. You can say what you want about Killtown - that is between you and he but your comments toward me are personal and derogatory.

That wasn't intended as an insult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

Any "debate" of NPT on this thread is BEYOND off topic. Take it to Alt where it belongs.

See for yourself:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2521/pftban082509.th.jpg

Here's the original page of the thread it all went down although the offending posts have now been deleted:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10775518

Apparently, if Aldo (CIT) and Painter don't like you, PFT founder Rob Balsamo will ban you, even if you're a veteran truth researcher with lots of smoking gun finds under your belt.

I guess assh*les outweigh researchers over there. Sad and pathetic.

The first time I was banned there was for being attacked by Painter (an Admin there at the time). Yes that's right, I got banned because a PFT admin was attacking me. I told Painter he should resign from being an admin there because he's a terrible admin and he banned me until 2010 and closed two of my Shanksville threads there (that were just opened back up yesterday).

Sorry to say, but if PilotForTruth is going to run like that, I have no respect for anybody who participates at theirs, or CIT's forum or organization.
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Btw, Aldo banned me at his CIT forum a while ago and deleted my Shanksville thread simply because he thinks I'm a shill. He also told Craig Ranke to not post at this forum anymore. Apparently Craig is Aldo's little bitch.

Any "debate" of NPT on this thread is BEYOND off topic. Take it to Alt where it belongs.